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<gazarsgo> is there any way to get a static list of requires built via bundler/Gemfile/Gemfile.lock ?
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<indirect> gazarsgo: yes, use the --standalone option
<indirect> see also the docs for standalone
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<gazarsgo> the docs are more than " Make a bundle that can work without the Bundler runtime" i hope ?
<gazarsgo> i'm not sure that does what i'm asking
<gazarsgo> if i have bundle installed and i have a gemfile.lock, bundler should be able to generate a cache of 'require '/absolute/path/to/gem'' instead of searching the filesystem on every require
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<tundal45> @indirect: Any feedback on https://github.com/bundler/bundler/pull/2755?
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<indirect> gazarsgo: it is technically possibly, yes. the vendor/bundler/setup.rb file generated by standalone configures the load paths for you, it doesn't add require statements
<indirect> er technically possible
<gazarsgo> yes, i read the bundler/setup.rb and i wonder why it is setup that way
<indirect> automatically requiring things isn't a primary feature of bundler, though
<gazarsgo> i have a 20-30 second start time for ruby beacuse there are >200 gems around
<indirect> setup.rb doesn't do requiring
<gazarsgo> dependency management doesn't have a strictly defined stop/start region IME
<indirect> tundal45: haven't gotten through the pull request backlog yet sorry
<indirect> gazarsgo: if you're implying that bundler has a moral imperative to solve your particular problem... um, no.
<gazarsgo> well that escalated quickly
<indirect> lol
<gazarsgo> are you saying that it would not be accepted as a pull request to the bundler project ?
<indirect> I have no idea what "it" is
<gazarsgo> automatic require generation
<tundal45> @indirect: no worries. Let me know if there are other issues I can look through. I have tomorrow through friday afternoon dedicated to OSS contributions.
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<indirect> gazarsgo: there have been two or three past pull requests adding support for Bundler.require as an optional addition to standalone, and we have rejected them as out of scope so far
<indirect> the last one was over a year ago
<gazarsgo> so you explicitly don't want that functionality in bundler -- that answers my question
<indirect> well, definitely not as Bundler.require where everything is just automatically required up front
<indirect> the entire point of standalone mode was to allow the application to require only the things that are actually needed
<indirect> rather than require everything at once
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<indirect> I'm not sure how using standalone is a benefit if you're just going to run every require at boot
<gazarsgo> i don't want to run standalone, that's your idea not mine ...
<indirect> that said, I'm not inherently opposed to adding it if you have a reason for it?
<indirect> then I again don't know what you're proposing
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<indirect> I've got to go, but if you'd like to propose a feature before sending a pull request, post an issue to the bundler-features repo
<gazarsgo> it might be a premature optimization on my part, i am just profiling and see that majority of time (>15 seconds) is spent in various require or require monkeypatches. i don't have line level profiling so i can't be certain (yet) but I assume most of the time is spent walking the filesystem
<gazarsgo> ok, thanks
<indirect> yeah, if you can speed up the require process by doing absolute requires, I'm interested for sure
<gazarsgo> excellent :)
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<trinode> this might seem stupid, but how on earth do you upgrade bundler?
<retro|cz> trinode, gem install bundler
<retro|cz> will install latest stable version from rubygems
<trinode> retro|cz: it installs 1.3.5
<trinode> Could not find a valid gem 'bundler' (~> 1.5.0) in any repository
<retro|cz> 1.3.5 is latest stable release
<trinode> ah
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<retro|cz> if you want to try 1.5.0.rc.1 you need to run gem install bundler --pre
<trinode> I'm not sure if that's the best course of action
<trinode> but I'm trying to find a fix for a problem with bundler and rubinus
<trinode> after deploying my app to the server, it puts all the gems it thinks i need into a folder
<trinode> except the ones it sees I have
<trinode> but when you run the app
<trinode> it only sees the gems it has installed
<trinode> ignoring completely system gems
<trinode> (eg it sees I have rubysl*, so it doesn't install it even though it's in the gemfile
<trinode> but then tells me it cannot find any of them when I try and run the app
<trinode> I can work around it by bundle exec gem install rubysl for example
<trinode> but there's something seriously dodgy about that
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<trinode> it seems to be related to using --path with bundler
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