matp has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
crystal-lang278 has joined #crystal-lang
crystal-lang278 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
matp has joined #crystal-lang
Oliphaunte has joined #crystal-lang
daemonwrangler has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
avdi has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
danzilio has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
woodruffw has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
woodruffw has joined #crystal-lang
woodruffw has quit [Excess Flood]
woodruffw has joined #crystal-lang
daemonwrangler has joined #crystal-lang
danzilio has joined #crystal-lang
avdi has joined #crystal-lang
Oliphaunte has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
Oliphaunte has joined #crystal-lang
Oliphaunte has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
Oliphaunte has joined #crystal-lang
Philpax_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
Oliphaunte has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
pawnbox has joined #crystal-lang
pawnbox has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
Oliphaunte has joined #crystal-lang
pawnbox has joined #crystal-lang
Oliphaunte has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
pawnbox has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
Oliphaunte has joined #crystal-lang
pawnbox has joined #crystal-lang
pawnbox has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
Oliphaunte has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
Oliphaunte has joined #crystal-lang
tomchapin has joined #crystal-lang
Oliphaunte has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
matp has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
tomchapi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
Oliphaunte has joined #crystal-lang
matp has joined #crystal-lang
Oliphaunte has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
pawnbox has joined #crystal-lang
tomchapin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
tomchapin has joined #crystal-lang
tomchapi_ has joined #crystal-lang
tomchapin has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
soveran has joined #crystal-lang
soveran has joined #crystal-lang
soveran has quit [Changing host]
tomchapi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
soveran has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
tomchapin has joined #crystal-lang
xmgx has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
tomchapi_ has joined #crystal-lang
tomchapin has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]
soveran has joined #crystal-lang
soveran has joined #crystal-lang
soveran has quit [Changing host]
pawnbox has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
pawnbox has joined #crystal-lang
tomchapin has joined #crystal-lang
tomchapi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]
pawnbox has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
pawnbox has joined #crystal-lang
matp has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
pawnbox_ has joined #crystal-lang
pawnbox has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
pawnbox_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
tomchapin has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
tomchapin has joined #crystal-lang
tomchapin has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
mark_66 has joined #crystal-lang
snsei has joined #crystal-lang
tomchapin has joined #crystal-lang
tomchapin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
tomchapin has joined #crystal-lang
pawnbox has joined #crystal-lang
tomchapi_ has joined #crystal-lang
tomchapi_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
tomchapin has quit [Read error: Connection timed out]
ome has joined #crystal-lang
tomchapin has joined #crystal-lang
tomchapin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
tomchapin has joined #crystal-lang
tomchapi_ has joined #crystal-lang
tomchapin has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]
snsei_ has joined #crystal-lang
snsei has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
gewo has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1]
gewo has joined #crystal-lang
pawnbox has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
pawnbox has joined #crystal-lang
pawnbox has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
pawnbox has joined #crystal-lang
Philpax has joined #crystal-lang
soveran has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
soveran has joined #crystal-lang
soveran has joined #crystal-lang
soveran has quit [Changing host]
matp has joined #crystal-lang
bjz has joined #crystal-lang
ome has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity]
bjz has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…]
tomchapin has joined #crystal-lang
tomchapi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]
bjz has joined #crystal-lang
pawnbox has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
pawnbox has joined #crystal-lang
pawnbox has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
bjz_ has joined #crystal-lang
bjz has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
masukomi has joined #crystal-lang
Oliphaunte has joined #crystal-lang
<
FromGitter>
<sdogruyol> wow @jhass returns and tags them all
<
FromGitter>
<sdogruyol> we missed you mate
pataphysics has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
soveran has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
soveran has joined #crystal-lang
soveran has joined #crystal-lang
soveran has quit [Changing host]
bjz_ has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…]
soveran has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
Oliphaunte has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
mgarciaisaia has joined #crystal-lang
Oliphaunte has joined #crystal-lang
pataphysics has joined #crystal-lang
Oliphaunte has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
masukomi has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
pataphysics has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
soveran has joined #crystal-lang
soveran has joined #crystal-lang
soveran has quit [Changing host]
soveran has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
Oliphaunte has joined #crystal-lang
matp has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
pataphysics has joined #crystal-lang
matp has joined #crystal-lang
Oliphaunte has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
gamemanj has joined #crystal-lang
masukomi has joined #crystal-lang
<
FromGitter>
<wrq> what 0.19 going to be about?
mgarciaisaia has left #crystal-lang [#crystal-lang]
<
jhass>
so far the biggest stuff is quite a bit refactoring of the compiler code
Oliphaunte has joined #crystal-lang
Oliphaunte has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
masukomi has quit [Quit: masukomi]
Oliphaunte has joined #crystal-lang
mkl0501 has joined #crystal-lang
masukomi has joined #crystal-lang
soveran has joined #crystal-lang
soveran has joined #crystal-lang
soveran has quit [Changing host]
masukomi has quit [Client Quit]
soveran has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
masukomi has joined #crystal-lang
pawnbox has joined #crystal-lang
pawnbox has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
Oliphaunte has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
Oliphaunte has joined #crystal-lang
masukomi_ has joined #crystal-lang
masukomi has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
masukomi_ is now known as masukomi
masukomi has quit [Quit: masukomi]
masukomi has joined #crystal-lang
soveran has joined #crystal-lang
xmgx has joined #crystal-lang
Oliphaunte has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
mark_66 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
mgarciaisaia has joined #crystal-lang
mgarciaisaia has left #crystal-lang [#crystal-lang]
Oliphaunte has joined #crystal-lang
pawnbox has joined #crystal-lang
matp has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
pawnbox has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
pawnbox has joined #crystal-lang
masukomi_ has joined #crystal-lang
masukomi has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
masukomi_ is now known as masukomi
pawnbox has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
pawnbox has joined #crystal-lang
Oliphaunte has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
Oliphaunte has joined #crystal-lang
ponga has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity]
soveran has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
Oliphaunte has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
Oliphaunte has joined #crystal-lang
triangles has quit [Quit: Leaving]
Oliphaunte has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
matp has joined #crystal-lang
Oliphaunte has joined #crystal-lang
matp has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
Oliphaunte has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
Oliphaunte has joined #crystal-lang
soveran has joined #crystal-lang
Oliphaunte has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
Oliphaunte has joined #crystal-lang
Oliphaunte has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
Oliphaunte has joined #crystal-lang
soveran has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
x0f_ has joined #crystal-lang
x0f has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
willl has joined #crystal-lang
LastWhisper____ has joined #crystal-lang
kulelu88 has joined #crystal-lang
Oliphaunte has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
blue_skyO has joined #crystal-lang
<
blue_skyO>
hey there people :)
<
blue_skyO>
some time ago i tried crystal, because i like ruby.
<
blue_skyO>
i soon realised that there were shards, sortof like gems
<
blue_skyO>
i had a tough time understanding how to use them
<
blue_skyO>
so i gave up on it, fast forward to now, i felt like i gave it another try
<
blue_skyO>
and to my surprise i got shards working, simply by making a test cr file in the your_app dir
<
blue_skyO>
but this isn't really documented well, or am i missing something?
Oliphaunte has joined #crystal-lang
<
RX14>
i'm not quite sure what you mean or had to do to get shards working
<
blue_skyO>
i followed a tutorial from sdog , creater of kemal http server
<
RX14>
can you link it?
<
RX14>
it might help me to follow what's wrong with the tutorial
<
blue_skyO>
well i don't think there is something wrong
<
blue_skyO>
the thing that was missing , was when you make a your_app dir
<
blue_skyO>
if you create a cr file in there, crystal looks for the lib dir
<
blue_skyO>
this is after you modify your config file and add the needed shard. then run crystal deps
<
blue_skyO>
and when no errors are seen, you go into your_app dir (as in the tutorial)
<
blue_skyO>
only then , the shard is placed in the lib dir
<
blue_skyO>
and if you make a cr file , and require the shard at the top of your file, it looks into the libs dir
<
RX14>
is this your_app dir made using crystal init?
<
blue_skyO>
no afters shards install
<
blue_skyO>
ow yeah sorry after init
<
blue_skyO>
you are correct
Oliphaunte has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
<
RX14>
i'm still not sure what you did the first time that didn't work
<
blue_skyO>
Open your_app/src/your_app.cr and require kemal to use Kemal.
<
blue_skyO>
this doesn't work for mer
<
wmoxam_>
blue_skyO: what's the error?
<
blue_skyO>
i have to place it in the your_app dir and require kemal , that way it works
wmoxam_ is now known as wmoxam
wmoxam has quit [Changing host]
wmoxam has joined #crystal-lang
<
RX14>
you have to run crystal from the your_app dir
<
RX14>
because where it searches for libraries is relative to the cwd
<
blue_skyO>
while requiring "kemal": can't find file 'kemal' relative to '/home/.../Documents/crystal/your_app/src'
<
blue_skyO>
this is when i run it form /your_app/src/
<
RX14>
yeah you can't do that
<
blue_skyO>
as mentioned in the tut
<
RX14>
you have to run crystal from the your_app dir
<
RX14>
or more accurately
<
RX14>
the directory that containd the libs directory
<
blue_skyO>
yeah , thats what i came across by accident
<
RX14>
@sdogruyol might want to mention this in the kemal tut
<
blue_skyO>
lol yeah
<
blue_skyO>
wierd, must be the first one to mention it
<
wmoxam>
the tutorial never mentions to cd into the src directory
<
RX14>
well if you follow the tutorial to the letter it's fine
<
blue_skyO>
it does.
<
blue_skyO>
Open your_app/src/your_app.cr and require kemal to use Kemal.
<
RX14>
where does that say to cd to your_app/src?
<
RX14>
it says to open that file in an editor
<
blue_skyO>
it says open your_app.cr in src
<
RX14>
no it doesn't
<
blue_skyO>
Open your_app/src/your_app.cr <- open your_app.cr in /src/
<
wmoxam>
also the compilation step implies you'll be in the root dir
<
wmoxam>
crystal build --release src/your_app.cr
<
blue_skyO>
what i am not seeing?
<
wmoxam>
"Open your_app/src/your_app.cr" does not imply changing directories
<
blue_skyO>
it wouldn't matter, you still get the error if you run it from /src/
<
RX14>
it implies vim src/your_app.cr
<
RX14>
or whatever editor
<
RX14>
vim your_app.cr
<
RX14>
they're different
<
blue_skyO>
you are changing the same file
<
RX14>
but you're not changing directory
<
blue_skyO>
if you are cd'ing into it, or just using the path
<
RX14>
but changing the files isn't the difference
<
RX14>
it's where you end up being afterwards
<
blue_skyO>
you can imagine that being really confusing?
<
RX14>
any program that you run inherits the directory that you are `cd`ed into
<
RX14>
and it can change behaviour on that
<
RX14>
that's just basic unix
<
blue_skyO>
so there is a difference if i run, ruby /path1/app.rb as to , cd'ing into /path1/ and running ruby app.rb?
<
RX14>
every program in unix has a "current working directory"
<
RX14>
which cd changes
<
RX14>
and pwd prints
<
RX14>
when you run an application it inherits that working directory
Oliphaunte has joined #crystal-lang
<
RX14>
and in crystal's case, the libs directory is realtive to the current directory
<
RX14>
so if you are cd'd into src
<
RX14>
it will search fro src/libs/
<
RX14>
which doesn't exist
<
blue_skyO>
i understand
<
blue_skyO>
never knew this, and been on linux some time
<
blue_skyO>
i thought cd was just for chanching directories
<
RX14>
well it does
<
RX14>
it "just" changes directory
<
RX14>
it's just that it's not just the shell that has the concept of a "current" directory
<
RX14>
every application has one
<
RX14>
and they are inherited
<
blue_skyO>
this is only in the CLI
<
blue_skyO>
because you can not run a file , in an directory you cannot see
<
RX14>
no, every process in linux has a current working directory
<
RX14>
it just doesn't affect many programs
Oliphaunte has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
<
blue_skyO>
i mean, if i were to run your_app.cr in src i have to navigate to it, through the GUI
<
blue_skyO>
in my file manager
masukomi has quit [Quit: masukomi]
<
RX14>
uhh, in that case they do have them but they are usually set to be just the directory containing the file
<
RX14>
linux desktop shortcuts can contain a directory that is used as the cwd
<
blue_skyO>
i can imagine poeple making the smae mistake
<
blue_skyO>
like don't change directories, stay in your_app folder, when editing, bulding or running the file
<
blue_skyO>
i understand many assumptions about people knowing their unix environment
<
wmoxam>
blue_skyO: typically I write a make file for my crystal projects
<
blue_skyO>
yes i can imagine
<
blue_skyO>
you can even make an crystall application that asks you these things
<
gamemanj>
The Crystal User's Quiz
<
blue_skyO>
shard installer ;)
<
gamemanj>
Actually, maybe don't design it as a direct quiz. Design it as a maze , just because of that old TV show.
<
blue_skyO>
or like shoes from ruby, a tutorial written in crystal
<
blue_skyO>
but cli based :P
<
blue_skyO>
hackety-hack was a great ruby tutorial application
<
blue_skyO>
thought the basics of programming to someone who's never programmed
<
blue_skyO>
just a matter of time, someone made that for crystal
<
wmoxam>
IMO Crystal isn't a good first language for someone who's never programmed
<
blue_skyO>
what i noticied was that crystal gives a more accurate error
<
blue_skyO>
mostley
LastWhisper____ has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…]
<
gamemanj>
(Still haven't found the "read_bitcode" function in the LLVM wrapper.)
<
gamemanj>
(...wait, I think I forgot to mention that I was looking for a read_bitcode function in the first place. Well, that seems random.)
<
blue_skyO>
and because it's almost the same syntax as ruby, it's not that different learning programming i think, like it is with ruby
<
wmoxam>
Well I don't think Ruby is a great first language either ;)
<
blue_skyO>
you don't like crystal?
<
wmoxam>
but also, I find Crystal to be quite different than Ruby as well
<
wmoxam>
sure the syntax is similar, but it's also similar between javascript and C
<
blue_skyO>
which language would you propose to someone
<
wmoxam>
(I love Crysyal BTW)
<
wmoxam>
blue_skyO: someone new? Scheme maybe
<
blue_skyO>
don't know it
<
blue_skyO>
does it add a lot of syntatic sugar?
<
wmoxam>
it's a very simple language
<
wmoxam>
for popular languages I'd suggest javascript
<
blue_skyO>
ah i see it now
<
wmoxam>
basically everyone already has it installed
<
blue_skyO>
alto comparing it to ruby, scheme does have more boilerplate on first glance
<
wmoxam>
and the syntax is similar to many other languages
<
blue_skyO>
yeah JS i agree
<
RX14>
gamemanj, pls
gamemanj has left #crystal-lang ["!"]
Oliphaunte has joined #crystal-lang
<
jwaldrip>
Whats been going on with crystal? Big features, we usually see at least one release a month...
<
blue_skyO>
that's good, that means something more heavy is under work
<
blue_skyO>
small increments require less time
<
RX14>
jwaldrip, 0.19 was meant to be multicore/parallelism support
<
RX14>
but it's looking like that might be pushed back
<
jwaldrip>
the version release or the multicore/parallelism support?
<
jwaldrip>
I mean im excited/curious more than anything.
<
jwaldrip>
blue_skyO: Im just curious, not concerned.
<
blue_skyO>
use zmq for messasing, very fast :)
crystal-lang330 has joined #crystal-lang
<
crystal-lang330>
hey all, I'm following crystal development closely and noticed falling commit rates. is everything ok :)
<
RX14>
in the last 2 weeks? the main dev has gone on holiday is all
<
crystal-lang330>
thats what I wanted to hear !
<
crystal-lang330>
thxx
gewo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
gewo has joined #crystal-lang
Oliphaunte has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
Oliphaunte has joined #crystal-lang
Oliphaunte has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
bjz has joined #crystal-lang
Oliphaunte has joined #crystal-lang
bjz has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…]
<
crystal-gh>
[crystal] ozra opened pull request #3212: Fix #3197 (master...fix/aliased_generic_matching_in_restriction)
https://git.io/vivrH
Oliphaunte has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
mgarciaisaia has joined #crystal-lang
gewo1 has joined #crystal-lang
txdv has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
gewo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
mgarciaisaia has left #crystal-lang [#crystal-lang]
<
crystal-gh>
[crystal] ozra opened pull request #3213: Simple refactor to unify code duplication. (master...clean-dry-refactor)
https://git.io/vivK2
crystal-lang330 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]