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<mniak> I'm doing well. I got to know crystal last week and I'm hypnotized!
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<mniak> So I'm doing very well
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<Blacksmoke16> what does the `::` represent when in front of a class name/
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<Blacksmoke16> like `::Nil`
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<dscottboggs_gitlab> that means it's part of the top-level namespace
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<dscottboggs_gitlab> incase you had a custom Nil class that would get discovered before ::Nil
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<Blacksmoke16> 👍 thanks
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<dscottboggs_gitlab> `::` In general is used to denote that something is a part of something else, be it a class or a module.
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<dscottboggs_gitlab> np
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<Blacksmoke16> is there a way to inherit method doc from a parent?
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<Blacksmoke16> i.e. if i have an abstract class with an abstract def that i put the comment on, that all subclasses would have the same comment
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<dscottboggs_gitlab> @Blacksmoke16 ack I knew I'd get one in one of those haha thanks
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<dscottboggs_gitlab> how are you just trying this?
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<Blacksmoke16> pull down your branch and try to compile crystal
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<Blacksmoke16> is prob related to `@type.constants.find { |cnst| cnst === @const }.try &.doc` since this can return Nil when it should only return a `Crystal::Doc::Type`
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<dscottboggs_gitlab> oh, I thought that was nillable
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<Blacksmoke16> ` getter type : Crystal::Type` naw looks like its not
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<dscottboggs_gitlab> I'll take another look at it a little while later or tomorrow. thanks.
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<dscottboggs_gitlab> I haven't yet compiled my own crysta
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<Blacksmoke16> er wait think that was the wrong ivar, but yea it cant be nil, or at least needs to be checked if its nil or not
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<Blacksmoke16> might help :p
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<Blacksmoke16> np
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<Blacksmoke16> am sure will have some comments from others on your PR, thanks for taking this up, will be quite handy when its all done
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<sdzyba> @vladfaust not sure about relationships between Stripe and Crystal, but they're investing a lot to implement a type checker for Ruby. Maybe worth spreading information about Crystal among Stripe devs
<livcd>
sdzyba: are you sure it's a lot ?
<livcd>
is not it just couple of devs ?
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<Heaven31415> I found some info, it was built by 3 ppl, you can check it here: https://sorbet.run/
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<sdzyba> A couple of professional devs sounds a lot to me :)
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<Heaven31415> A message from them which appeared in May of this year, stated that they worked for 9 nine on it (at that time, so it's probably over a year now)
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<sdzyba> If they spent the same resources on Crystal development the impact might be very significant
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<anicholson> 👋
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<anicholson> I'm having a bit of frustration with ECR at the moment
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<anicholson> I have a shard that uses ECR to render a default error message to a String
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<anicholson> but when I attempt to compile a project that's using that shard, the compile fails because the ECR macro can't find the right file.
<FromGitter>
<anicholson> It doesn't appear that I can use `File.join(__DIR__, "error_template.ecr")` in the macro call
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<anicholson> how can I get around this issue?
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<mjbunink> Hi all, does Crystal have openGl bindings or 2d/3d shards yet?
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<fridgerator> also searches for "2d" and "3d" turn up results
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<vladfaust> @anicholson use the path assuming it's called from an application requiring that shard. E.g. `"myshard/templates/error.ecr"`. It will be untestable though. To avoid this, you can set up macro variable, which would change the path in the compile time to something like `"../src/myshard/src/templates/error.ecr"`
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<vladfaust> Also IIRC there was an issue regarding to `File.join` in macros
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<vladfaust> Guys, if you can afford it, take a look at my Patreon. I misplanned my time and now have a financial gap between my next project (crystal-based and promoting it) and present time. I'm not sure I'll be able to pay for my apartment this month 😅 Thanks! https://www.patreon.com/vladfaust
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<nekocentral>
what would be the best way to convert this command to a crystal thing
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<Heaven31415> Damn , a new @asterite PR, you need to see it!
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<fridgerator> 1) o
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<fridgerator> slowly becoming java
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<fridgerator> j/k
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<straight-shoota> xD
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<bmulvihill> bundle install
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<proyb6> Today I just found Mint Language has an interesting docs ⏎ https://www.mint-lang.com/
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<proyb6> In the project and run ```mint doc``` will give you a handy view on relevant APIs it used, I though Crystal should have this built in feature for any projects!
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<proyb6> ```mint doc``` is a documentation server
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<bajro17> I find simplest tree implementation
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<bajro17> but there is Node(T)
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<bajro17> when I initialize tree I pass symbol like parameter (Symbol)
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<bajro17> can I avoid this and to all time be symbol because I want only use that
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<vladfaust> Mention this issue so it has attention of the core team. I need this one as well
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<Blacksmoke16> would be handy
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<schoening> Hey how does crystal deal with requiring files with classes that have the same name? ⏎ Would I have to wrap them in a separate file and import that?
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<straight-shoota> @schoening Crystal has a global namespace. You can't have two classes with the same name.
<Yxhuvud>
The normal way to avoid it is to wrap them in module or class namespaces though
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<schoening> Ok :) yeah thats the SO answer I saw on Ruby with the same issue
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<j8r> @Heaven31415 yes, it seems he is in a good mood :)
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<j8r> Is it possible to raise an exception without the backtrace, to avoid the perfomance overhead of dumping the stack?
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<bew> Not builtin
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<Blacksmoke16> any good recommendations for hosting the generated crystal docs for a given repo?
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<Blacksmoke16> github pages maybe?
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<bew> @j8r you could make your own raise method that doesn't attach a callstack to the exception object being raised (not sure how this would last
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<bew> @Blacksmoke16 yes gh pages is good
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<Blacksmoke16> there any setup that needs to be done? or just point it to the docs/ directory?
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<bew> No idea, i remember reading a post or comment somewhere where bcardiff was explaining how to do that
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<Blacksmoke16> 👍 I'll play around with it
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<Blacksmoke16> Thanks
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<j8r> Too bad this isn't this builtin @bew . This will help for performance. Actually everything panic :| I may open an issue on this
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<bew> It's not a lot of code, Exception is made in a way where the callstack is optional
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<bew> But indeed, a `callstack: false` to `raise` would make things simpler
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<bew> @j8r also, when you don't have a callstack attached, it might be nice to have at least the file:line of where the exception was raised
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<bew> the `@callstack` ivar of `Exception` can be nil
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<j8r> Hum thats the callstack property? For example when parsing, or index out of bound, the callstack is useless
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<j8r> Or may be not always useful
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<bew> how do you decide when it's useless?
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<j8r> If i do a begin rescur that rescue another exception, I won't see the backtrace
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<j8r> 1) of the first one
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<bew> i don't get it, can you give an exemple?
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<j8r> I parse a file, rescue when the parsing fails, then raise that it fails, rescue in the build and raise that the parse fails etc
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<j8r> I just want to know the first callstack, when the parsing fails
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<bew> do you know `cause` argument of `Exception` ?
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<bew> (btw there is missing doc about it..)
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<bew> it allows you to see the 2 traces
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<bew> the 1st and 2nd exception
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<j8r> I'll create my own exception without callstack. Thanks @bew !
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<bew> ok sorry for not understanding exactly
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<j8r> The point is: i create exceptions, we know exactly why it fails: no need to dump the stack. For example: "myfile.tgz: download timeout"
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<j8r> Or for the file parsing case: "unknown command: echo"
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<Blacksmoke16> z64, cheers ill take a look
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<m-o-e> undefined method 'each' for YAML::Any hummm
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<Blacksmoke16> gotta do `as_a` to tell it it should be an array
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<m-o-e> ohhhh
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<m-o-e> @blacksmoke16 thanks!
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<Blacksmoke16> np, would be `Array(YAML::Any)`
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<bew> @j8r yeah maybe make an issue about that, would be interesting
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<j8r> Before asking i was reading some infos about how Rust and Swift handle exceptions – they use a custom type, and of course panic is still there to raise the stack
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<faustinoaq> Hi crystal community, I'm back, I had taken a long break 😅 I'll continue with some collaborations in my favorite repos 😄
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<bew> \o/ @faustinoaq
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<j8r> Welcome back @faustinoaq !
<FromGitter>
<faustinoaq> Yeah, feels nice to be here again :)
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<fridgerator> hey @faustinoaq
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<jwoertink> Welcome back @faustinoaq 😄
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<bajro17> I have question for what is used $1
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<anicholson> > @anicholson use the path assuming it's called from an application requiring that shard. E.g. `"myshard/templates/error.ecr"`. It will be untestable though. To avoid this, you can set up macro variable, which would change the path in the compile time to something like `"../src/myshard/src/templates/error.ecr"` ⏎ ⏎ @vladfaust that feels really gross. I think I'm just going to pull the template into the