13:45 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> So I'm currently trying to port https://github.com/symfony/symfony/blob/5.x/src/Symfony/Component/Console/Cursor.php#L143-L167, however i feel like theres a better more platform independent way to go about than a bunch of system calls

14:16 <jhass> This stuff is incredibly platform specific but maybe you like Ruby's approach better https://github.com/ruby/ruby/blob/3e1d32a233c84dac9e8aaf12f5bc21573a2477cb/ext/io/console/console.c#L1034-L1046

14:18 <jhass> ah that was win32, here's unix: https://github.com/ruby/ruby/blob/d92f09a5eea009fa28cd046e9d0eb698e3d94c5c/ext/io/console/console.c#L1304-L1322

14:20 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> seems they're essentially the same thing no?

14:21 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> as what the PHP version is doing*

14:22 <jhass> maybe a little less shelling out to random CLI utils?

14:29 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> yea true

14:34 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> idk, that also sounds like a pita, might just go with simple to get it working then improve later? :shrug:

14:35 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> ```code paste, see link``` ⏎ ⏎ Is what i conjured up so far :S [https://gitter.im/crystal-lang/crystal?at=609fdc44d523ee3d3e345044]

14:43 <jhass> TTY interaction is a complete PITA full of edge cases in all ways :D

14:43 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> i'm beginning to figure that out xD

14:44 <jhass> I mean the one thing that allows neovim to improve over vim in terms of speed and features is dropping support/compat for things

14:47 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> aka most software in general

22:32 <FromGitter> <mixflame> anyone know how to enable webpack in Amber?

23:44 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> Nope, maybe try their gitter ch?