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<miandonmenmian> vdpau with mplayer is broken ?
<miandonmenmian> [vdpau] Error when calling vdp_device_create_x11: 25
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<Alina-malina> hey all, will cubietrack handle 6K visitors per day if i run a webserver on it? (serving ecommerce website)
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<utente> Alina-malina, the qeustion is incomplete. Is 6000 along the day (6000/86400=) une every 14 seconds? is it 6000 but all during 20 minutes? the web server has a database or provide static html pages? etc etc
<Alina-malina> utente, yes it is php/mysql server, 6000 per day, not per second so it will be like 6000/12
<utente> set up a web servr on cubietruk , then do stress test. there are tools to do that.
<utente> choose the right webserver.
<Alina-malina> the problem is i dont buy it yet, so i am not sure if i need it or not for webserver, if it wont work, it is useless for me to buy it
<utente> start with the hjardware you have: if your 4 core/4Gram PC/laptop is not able to do, more unable will be cubietruck.
<Night-Shade> also depends what the limit is, is it CPU / RAM / Storage performance / Network performance?
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<fossxplorer> Night-Shade, yeah, you have to look at what area of performance will be the bottleneck. My experience with non-ARM server is that using Nginx/MySQL one can serve pretty many requests
<fossxplorer> Alina-malina ^
<Alina-malina> super
<Alina-malina> many requests is how many?
<fossxplorer> Alina-malina, IMO, it all depends on the size of the DB, if it fits in the RAM, you should be fine
<Alina-malina> hmmm alright:) well i want to order one, there is one on aliexpress, but i am not sure if i should order from there or not
<fossxplorer> Alina-malina, what do you mean? What kind of PHP handler do you plan to use?
<Alina-malina> php-fpm?
<Alina-malina> regular php package
<Night-Shade> where are you based? I got mine in the UK fro r0ck.me
<Alina-malina> Armenia
<fossxplorer> Alina-malina, keep in mind that php-fpm enough RAM to handle many requests
<Night-Shade> and also that modern PHP has bytecode caching
<Alina-malina> hmmm
<fossxplorer> Alina-malina, Night-Shade, correct
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<fossxplorer> Alina-malina, don't wanna wait for A80 board?
<fossxplorer> I don't own an A20 based board, but my impression is that CPU is kinda inferior
<Night-Shade> I have a cubietruck here and the A20 is ok
<Night-Shade> but the thing with the A20 is that everything works now
<fossxplorer> I think RK3188/3288 is better for high traffic web server
<Night-Shade> the A80 will have a period of not working as all the kernel bits get sorted out
<fossxplorer> Night-Shade, ah ok. Hmm, you are into a good point
<fossxplorer> I've just ordered a pcDuino3 Nano
<Night-Shade> you can install debian pretty much out the box on the cubietruck now
<Night-Shade> when I first installed it was "interesting"
<fossxplorer> To be used solely as a 24/7 linux box at home to save electricity
<fossxplorer> I understand. Now it's works full with Debian?
<fossxplorer> s/full/fully/
<infobot> fossxplorer meant: I understand. Now it's works fully with Debian?
<fossxplorer> oh cool bot :)
<Night-Shade> yes it does
<Night-Shade> I've not swapped to the debian kernel yet
<Night-Shade> I still self build the latest kernel but I understand that the debian kernel / uboot support tools all work
<fossxplorer> Night-Shade, ok, nice. I'll see if i can get Fedora into my pcDuino3
<fossxplorer> i know Ubuntu is supported
<Night-Shade> the fedora arm people are pretty active
<Night-Shade> rich jones made the kvm support work on the cubietruck
<Night-Shade> so I can run hardware accelerated VMs on my cubie
<utente> Night-Shade, cubie is not a "monster of power". What is the fantage to run on it a VM?
<Night-Shade> because I can :)
<utente> s/fantage/vantage/
<infobot> utente meant: Night-Shade, cubie is not a "monster of power". What is the vantage to run on it a VM?
<Night-Shade> it's interesting to play with VMs on ARM
<utente> under test&research viewpoint i agree.
<Night-Shade> indeed
<fossxplorer> I agree that it's fascinating, but for me the major drawback in the little amount of RAM
<Night-Shade> and the performance isn't terrible
<fossxplorer> How many VMS do you have inside?
<Night-Shade> all arm stuff suffers from a terrible lack of ram
<Night-Shade> only tried 2 at once
<Night-Shade> 1 for each core
<fossxplorer> Cool. What about LXC?
<Night-Shade> not played with the, also need to try out docker but not had time
<fossxplorer> It's more light weight, just playing with it on my new CentOS 7 box
<fossxplorer> yeah, that's quite interesting
<Night-Shade> not played much with docker yet, very much a VM person :)
<Night-Shade> not keen on the security around docker / LXC thou selinux in RHEL/CentOS 7 helps a lot
<fossxplorer> Same here, i've been using KVM in production for 2 years now, it's fantastic! Now also testing oVirt :)
<Night-Shade> yeah I look after production KVM stuff
<Night-Shade> and prod vmware too
<Night-Shade> I avoid hyperv as much as I can
<fossxplorer> Cool. although i must agree the enterprises use Hyper-V quite a lot
<fossxplorer> IMO, they came late into the game, but because MS owns a huge market, they push stuff into the customers
<Night-Shade> it depends, in education it's very popular cos it's free
<Night-Shade> but VMware's tools are so much better
<fossxplorer> That's what i read
<fossxplorer> ppl pay huge amount of $$ to VMWare
<Night-Shade> and hyperV once you buy the management stuff is actually quite expensive
<fossxplorer> I see. What about VMWare that's so good? The vSphere?
<Night-Shade> the first step with vmware (3 host essentials plus) is very cheap
<Night-Shade> the next steps get expensive
<fossxplorer> i see
<Night-Shade> vCenter the management appliance is very good, everything just works
<Night-Shade> it talks all the major SAN / NFS protocols, the drives are all there and work
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<Night-Shade> and things like vMotion look like magic to many people
<fossxplorer> Cool
<fossxplorer> as in (live) migration of VMs?
<fossxplorer> KVM supports it too IIRC
<Night-Shade> it's the fact that you can see and manage everything from a single web UI (yes it's in flash and it's annoying)
<Night-Shade> yes it's live migration of VM state / storage
<fossxplorer> Nice. Then you should test oVirt soon :)
<Night-Shade> KVM does support it, more finiky to setup
<fossxplorer> I see.
<Night-Shade> I should, I'm actually an RHCE so I really should play with ovirt
<Night-Shade> it's finding the time and the hardware to test stuff
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<fossxplorer> oh are you? Great!
<Night-Shade> also a VMware VCP and NetApp storage certified
<fossxplorer> Night-Shade, i'm planning RHCE next year actually.
<Night-Shade> RHCE is great fun (I think)
<Night-Shade> I've had it for over 10 years
<fossxplorer> Night-Shade, you are senior i see
<Night-Shade> team leader :p
<fossxplorer> Awesome :)
<fossxplorer> Night-Shade, may i add you as friend to catch for later chats?
<Night-Shade> sure, I'm not always on irc thou
<fossxplorer> Ok, np. Quite surprised to see a guy like you on cubie
<fossxplorer> That's really great :)
<Night-Shade> tinkering with ARM stuff is a hobby
<Night-Shade> I have 5 Raspberry pis
<fossxplorer> Night-Shade, yeah, that's an exciting hobby i can imagine
<Night-Shade> and erm an iConnect (kirkwood arm) and a cubietruck
<Night-Shade> and a collection of OpenWRT routers about the palce
<fossxplorer> Omg, that's some. You have all the devices that can run Linux :)
<Night-Shade> I have some of them
<Night-Shade> I keep looking at more and then thinking "no I don't need more toys"
<fossxplorer> haha
<fossxplorer> My first ARM device ever is on the way, as i said pcDuino3 Nano
<Night-Shade> the pi is a good starting point, very thin on power but very well supported
<Night-Shade> and the latest gen finally has a working usb / power system
<fossxplorer> yeah, but it's so low powered :(
<Night-Shade> yes it is but it can do useful things
<Night-Shade> runs my parents USB printer for example
<fossxplorer> over the network?
<Night-Shade> aye
<Night-Shade> over wifi infact
<fossxplorer> That's a great usecase
<fossxplorer> Awesome :)
<Night-Shade> yeah I use them for VPN endpoints
<Night-Shade> they are very handy for usb serial ports
<Night-Shade> when you don't want to stand in someone's freezing server room to serial port a netapp or switch
<fossxplorer> Night-Shade, usb serial port?
<Night-Shade> I've used them before for total out of band acces, with a 3g dongle and a pair of serial ports on them
<Night-Shade> usb -> serial for console access to devices
<fossxplorer> ah like IPMI stuff?
<Night-Shade> yeah but with a real cable
<Night-Shade> login to the pi and run screen /dev/ttyUSB0
<fossxplorer> Hmm, and the USB port of Pi is connected to the serial mgmt port of the serveR?
<fossxplorer> with USB to serial adapter i assume
<fossxplorer> Night-Shade, you should join #centos and #rhel :)
<Night-Shade> correct
<fossxplorer> Awesome, something i didn't think about at all
<Night-Shade> it's very handy
<fossxplorer> Indeed!
<fossxplorer> But 3G doesn't give you static IP
<Night-Shade> that's what openvpn is for :)
<fossxplorer> ah, f***
<Night-Shade> I have a vpn server on a static ip
<Night-Shade> and all my toys connect in
<fossxplorer> awesom
<fossxplorer> e
<Night-Shade> I have a sealed case for a pi so I can leave it behind without it being fiddled with
<fossxplorer> so you get the internal VPN ip of the Pi to connect to
<Night-Shade> gives me remote access to a customer from the hotel if I am working with them for a few days
<Night-Shade> indeed
<Night-Shade> and with a serial port you can do remote work that breaks things wthout worrying about things
<Night-Shade> so midnight swap overs of routing tables
<Night-Shade> and things like that
<fossxplorer> But how do you connect the 3G device to the mobile network? Always on ?
<Night-Shade> always on
<Night-Shade> I've got management scripts that check for google pings and if it can't ping for 5 mins reboots the modem
<fossxplorer> yeah, you don't need to be afraid about losing SSH access :)
<fossxplorer> Awesome.
<Night-Shade> I can float vSphere over it too with some port forwards
<fossxplorer> You are kinda genius i see
<Night-Shade> I like to be prepared
<Night-Shade> http://blog.night-shade.org.uk/ my blog has a picture of my travel kit
<fossxplorer> You mean access vSphere via Pi?
<Night-Shade> aye
<Night-Shade> just forward the correct ports with xinetd
<fossxplorer> You are a real geek
<fossxplorer> awesome
<fossxplorer> Oh, i've seen that TP Link on dx.com and considered it many time
<fossxplorer> s
<fossxplorer> just couldn't see the use case yet though
<Night-Shade> the one frmo the guy in china is amazing
<fossxplorer> But you did!
<fossxplorer> Aliexpress?
<Night-Shade> 30 quit and you get 64mb of ram 16mb of storage and a serial port
<Night-Shade> I get them from ebay
<Night-Shade> slboat is the guy that mods them
<fossxplorer> inside that TP Link?
<Night-Shade> he's very good
<Night-Shade> aye
<fossxplorer> wow
<fossxplorer> give me the link on ebay please?
<fossxplorer> So you can connect your laptop to the Pi via WIFI?
<fossxplorer> It then routes through the traffic over 3G right?
<Night-Shade> yes
<Night-Shade> and over my vpn
<Night-Shade> so the 3g people don't see it :)
<fossxplorer> this is some great stuff
<fossxplorer> I MUST fix it too
<fossxplorer> awesome
<fossxplorer> I'm blank on OpenVPN stuff
<fossxplorer> i need to get started
<Night-Shade> openvpn is very handy
<fossxplorer> Sounds like it is
<Night-Shade> any how I need to go and buy some food, I've not managed to find a way to get that over OpenVPN yet
<fossxplorer> haha, thx for the chat
<fossxplorer> catch you later!
<Alina-malina> a80?
<Alina-malina> what is that?
<fossxplorer> Alina-malina, the new Allwinner A80 SoC,
<Alina-malina> hmmm
<Alina-malina> when it is going to be available?
<fossxplorer> Soon, but no release date yet
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<Alina-malina> heh they add the microphone jack back lulz
<fossxplorer> Alina-malina, but mainly missing SATA :(
<Alina-malina> wtf
<Alina-malina> no sata?
<Alina-malina> O_O
<fossxplorer> Doesn't look like :(, but at least if USB3 is there, it might work out
<fossxplorer> still SATA is a major drawback IMO
<Alina-malina> sata is a musthave
<Alina-malina> >.<
<fossxplorer> agree
<Alina-malina> the china girl is so ugly omg, i cant watch this....
<fossxplorer> Alina-malina, hey come on
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<utente> alina, stay on cubieboard1/2 if you need sata.
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<Alina-malina> hmmm ok
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<fossxplorer> Alina-malina, http://store.linksprite.com/pcduino3-nano/ cheaper but with some less features vs cubies
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<mir_> hello everyone
<mir_> I am looking for help to customize my own android for cubieboard2
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<mir_> I need to change somthing on android for cubieboard
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<mir_> How can I edit the cubieboard2 img , such as logo in boot and also kiosk mode and also remove some app's before installation ?
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