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<miandonmenmian>
vdpau with mplayer is broken ?
<miandonmenmian>
[vdpau] Error when calling vdp_device_create_x11: 25
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<Alina-malina>
hey all, will cubietrack handle 6K visitors per day if i run a webserver on it? (serving ecommerce website)
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<utente>
Alina-malina, the qeustion is incomplete. Is 6000 along the day (6000/86400=) une every 14 seconds? is it 6000 but all during 20 minutes? the web server has a database or provide static html pages? etc etc
<Alina-malina>
utente, yes it is php/mysql server, 6000 per day, not per second so it will be like 6000/12
<utente>
set up a web servr on cubietruk , then do stress test. there are tools to do that.
<utente>
choose the right webserver.
<Alina-malina>
the problem is i dont buy it yet, so i am not sure if i need it or not for webserver, if it wont work, it is useless for me to buy it
<utente>
start with the hjardware you have: if your 4 core/4Gram PC/laptop is not able to do, more unable will be cubietruck.
<Night-Shade>
also depends what the limit is, is it CPU / RAM / Storage performance / Network performance?
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<fossxplorer>
Night-Shade, yeah, you have to look at what area of performance will be the bottleneck. My experience with non-ARM server is that using Nginx/MySQL one can serve pretty many requests
<fossxplorer>
Alina-malina ^
<Alina-malina>
super
<Alina-malina>
many requests is how many?
<fossxplorer>
Alina-malina, IMO, it all depends on the size of the DB, if it fits in the RAM, you should be fine
<Alina-malina>
hmmm alright:) well i want to order one, there is one on aliexpress, but i am not sure if i should order from there or not
<fossxplorer>
Alina-malina, what do you mean? What kind of PHP handler do you plan to use?
<Alina-malina>
php-fpm?
<Alina-malina>
regular php package
<Night-Shade>
where are you based? I got mine in the UK fro r0ck.me
<Alina-malina>
Armenia
<fossxplorer>
Alina-malina, keep in mind that php-fpm enough RAM to handle many requests
<Night-Shade>
and also that modern PHP has bytecode caching
<Alina-malina>
hmmm
<fossxplorer>
Alina-malina, Night-Shade, correct
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<fossxplorer>
Alina-malina, don't wanna wait for A80 board?
<fossxplorer>
I don't own an A20 based board, but my impression is that CPU is kinda inferior
<Night-Shade>
I have a cubietruck here and the A20 is ok
<Night-Shade>
but the thing with the A20 is that everything works now
<fossxplorer>
I think RK3188/3288 is better for high traffic web server
<Night-Shade>
the A80 will have a period of not working as all the kernel bits get sorted out
<fossxplorer>
Night-Shade, ah ok. Hmm, you are into a good point
<fossxplorer>
I've just ordered a pcDuino3 Nano
<Night-Shade>
you can install debian pretty much out the box on the cubietruck now
<Night-Shade>
when I first installed it was "interesting"
<fossxplorer>
To be used solely as a 24/7 linux box at home to save electricity
<fossxplorer>
I understand. Now it's works full with Debian?
<fossxplorer>
s/full/fully/
<infobot>
fossxplorer meant: I understand. Now it's works fully with Debian?
<fossxplorer>
oh cool bot :)
<Night-Shade>
yes it does
<Night-Shade>
I've not swapped to the debian kernel yet
<Night-Shade>
I still self build the latest kernel but I understand that the debian kernel / uboot support tools all work
<fossxplorer>
Night-Shade, ok, nice. I'll see if i can get Fedora into my pcDuino3
<fossxplorer>
i know Ubuntu is supported
<Night-Shade>
the fedora arm people are pretty active
<Night-Shade>
rich jones made the kvm support work on the cubietruck
<Night-Shade>
so I can run hardware accelerated VMs on my cubie
<utente>
Night-Shade, cubie is not a "monster of power". What is the fantage to run on it a VM?
<Night-Shade>
because I can :)
<utente>
s/fantage/vantage/
<infobot>
utente meant: Night-Shade, cubie is not a "monster of power". What is the vantage to run on it a VM?
<Night-Shade>
it's interesting to play with VMs on ARM
<utente>
under test&research viewpoint i agree.
<Night-Shade>
indeed
<fossxplorer>
I agree that it's fascinating, but for me the major drawback in the little amount of RAM
<Night-Shade>
and the performance isn't terrible
<fossxplorer>
How many VMS do you have inside?
<Night-Shade>
all arm stuff suffers from a terrible lack of ram
<Night-Shade>
only tried 2 at once
<Night-Shade>
1 for each core
<fossxplorer>
Cool. What about LXC?
<Night-Shade>
not played with the, also need to try out docker but not had time
<fossxplorer>
It's more light weight, just playing with it on my new CentOS 7 box
<fossxplorer>
yeah, that's quite interesting
<Night-Shade>
not played much with docker yet, very much a VM person :)
<Night-Shade>
not keen on the security around docker / LXC thou selinux in RHEL/CentOS 7 helps a lot
<fossxplorer>
Same here, i've been using KVM in production for 2 years now, it's fantastic! Now also testing oVirt :)
<Night-Shade>
yeah I look after production KVM stuff
<Night-Shade>
and prod vmware too
<Night-Shade>
I avoid hyperv as much as I can
<fossxplorer>
Cool. although i must agree the enterprises use Hyper-V quite a lot
<fossxplorer>
IMO, they came late into the game, but because MS owns a huge market, they push stuff into the customers
<Night-Shade>
it depends, in education it's very popular cos it's free
<Night-Shade>
but VMware's tools are so much better
<fossxplorer>
That's what i read
<fossxplorer>
ppl pay huge amount of $$ to VMWare
<Night-Shade>
and hyperV once you buy the management stuff is actually quite expensive
<fossxplorer>
I see. What about VMWare that's so good? The vSphere?
<Night-Shade>
the first step with vmware (3 host essentials plus) is very cheap
<Night-Shade>
the next steps get expensive
<fossxplorer>
i see
<Night-Shade>
vCenter the management appliance is very good, everything just works
<Night-Shade>
it talks all the major SAN / NFS protocols, the drives are all there and work
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<Night-Shade>
and things like vMotion look like magic to many people
<fossxplorer>
Cool
<fossxplorer>
as in (live) migration of VMs?
<fossxplorer>
KVM supports it too IIRC
<Night-Shade>
it's the fact that you can see and manage everything from a single web UI (yes it's in flash and it's annoying)
<Night-Shade>
yes it's live migration of VM state / storage
<fossxplorer>
Nice. Then you should test oVirt soon :)
<Night-Shade>
KVM does support it, more finiky to setup
<fossxplorer>
I see.
<Night-Shade>
I should, I'm actually an RHCE so I really should play with ovirt
<Night-Shade>
it's finding the time and the hardware to test stuff
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<fossxplorer>
oh are you? Great!
<Night-Shade>
also a VMware VCP and NetApp storage certified
<fossxplorer>
Night-Shade, i'm planning RHCE next year actually.
<Night-Shade>
RHCE is great fun (I think)
<Night-Shade>
I've had it for over 10 years
<fossxplorer>
Night-Shade, you are senior i see
<Night-Shade>
team leader :p
<fossxplorer>
Awesome :)
<fossxplorer>
Night-Shade, may i add you as friend to catch for later chats?
<Night-Shade>
sure, I'm not always on irc thou
<fossxplorer>
Ok, np. Quite surprised to see a guy like you on cubie
<fossxplorer>
That's really great :)
<Night-Shade>
tinkering with ARM stuff is a hobby
<Night-Shade>
I have 5 Raspberry pis
<fossxplorer>
Night-Shade, yeah, that's an exciting hobby i can imagine
<Night-Shade>
and erm an iConnect (kirkwood arm) and a cubietruck
<Night-Shade>
and a collection of OpenWRT routers about the palce
<fossxplorer>
Omg, that's some. You have all the devices that can run Linux :)
<Night-Shade>
I have some of them
<Night-Shade>
I keep looking at more and then thinking "no I don't need more toys"
<fossxplorer>
haha
<fossxplorer>
My first ARM device ever is on the way, as i said pcDuino3 Nano
<Night-Shade>
the pi is a good starting point, very thin on power but very well supported
<Night-Shade>
and the latest gen finally has a working usb / power system
<fossxplorer>
yeah, but it's so low powered :(
<Night-Shade>
yes it is but it can do useful things
<Night-Shade>
runs my parents USB printer for example
<fossxplorer>
over the network?
<Night-Shade>
aye
<Night-Shade>
over wifi infact
<fossxplorer>
That's a great usecase
<fossxplorer>
Awesome :)
<Night-Shade>
yeah I use them for VPN endpoints
<Night-Shade>
they are very handy for usb serial ports
<Night-Shade>
when you don't want to stand in someone's freezing server room to serial port a netapp or switch
<fossxplorer>
Night-Shade, usb serial port?
<Night-Shade>
I've used them before for total out of band acces, with a 3g dongle and a pair of serial ports on them
<Night-Shade>
usb -> serial for console access to devices
<fossxplorer>
ah like IPMI stuff?
<Night-Shade>
yeah but with a real cable
<Night-Shade>
login to the pi and run screen /dev/ttyUSB0
<fossxplorer>
Hmm, and the USB port of Pi is connected to the serial mgmt port of the serveR?
<fossxplorer>
with USB to serial adapter i assume
<fossxplorer>
Night-Shade, you should join #centos and #rhel :)
<Night-Shade>
correct
<fossxplorer>
Awesome, something i didn't think about at all
<Night-Shade>
it's very handy
<fossxplorer>
Indeed!
<fossxplorer>
But 3G doesn't give you static IP
<Night-Shade>
that's what openvpn is for :)
<fossxplorer>
ah, f***
<Night-Shade>
I have a vpn server on a static ip
<Night-Shade>
and all my toys connect in
<fossxplorer>
awesom
<fossxplorer>
e
<Night-Shade>
I have a sealed case for a pi so I can leave it behind without it being fiddled with
<fossxplorer>
so you get the internal VPN ip of the Pi to connect to
<Night-Shade>
gives me remote access to a customer from the hotel if I am working with them for a few days
<Night-Shade>
indeed
<Night-Shade>
and with a serial port you can do remote work that breaks things wthout worrying about things
<Night-Shade>
so midnight swap overs of routing tables
<Night-Shade>
and things like that
<fossxplorer>
But how do you connect the 3G device to the mobile network? Always on ?
<Night-Shade>
always on
<Night-Shade>
I've got management scripts that check for google pings and if it can't ping for 5 mins reboots the modem
<fossxplorer>
yeah, you don't need to be afraid about losing SSH access :)
<fossxplorer>
Awesome.
<Night-Shade>
I can float vSphere over it too with some port forwards