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<tct> I have a Cubieboard1 (A10) and I can't boot the NAND flash. I want to install a distribution on an USB stick which includes a script to install to NAND, then boot that distro from the USB stick and run the script to be able to reboot in NAND flash system
<tct> Can you recommend me such a distribution?
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<TheLinuxBug> tct: hmm I am not sure I quite understand your goal here? Do you want to just run a say, debian system, from NAND?
<tct> Yes, TheLinuxBug
<TheLinuxBug> That show how for A10, A20 and allwinner based products how to install to NAND
<TheLinuxBug> tells all you need to do it
<TheLinuxBug> if you have confusion while trying just ask
<TheLinuxBug> I should be around throughout the day
<TheLinuxBug> will try to reply
<tct> It would be much simpler to just run a nand install script from a distro capable of that
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<TheLinuxBug> Okay, so write your own script and document it on that page?
<TheLinuxBug> There is a install to SATA script on the wiki
<TheLinuxBug> if you search acround it may be able to switch it up for NAND
<TheLinuxBug> I would suggest looking around and googling should not take you long to find what you want
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<tct> I am trying for few days
<TheLinuxBug> Honestly, if you follow the NAND wiki I gave you you should be able to write a script in about 15-20 minutes
<TheLinuxBug> and get it working
<TheLinuxBug> your making it take longer by looking for someone to have done all the work for you
<TheLinuxBug> there is reason those scipts are in some ways a bad idea, if you just blindly run scripts you never know whats in them... easiest way to insert nasty things inadvertently into systems
<TheLinuxBug> so its betetr you learn to make your own scripts to avoid such
<tct> I agree I don't trust binary parts in scripts
<tct> One more question
<tct> How can I boot from USB stick?
<tct> I broke my SD card
<TheLinuxBug> u-boot has to be able to read from sdcard or NAND on A10 to get kernel
<TheLinuxBug> you can run rootfs on the memory stick
<TheLinuxBug> then you need to update the
<TheLinuxBug> so
<tct> How can I tell u-boot to boot from USB stick
<TheLinuxBug> the basic way to do this
<TheLinuxBug> overall is to copy the root system to the device you want to run it from
<TheLinuxBug> then modify the u-boot to specify where the rootfs is
<TheLinuxBug> in the uEnv.txt
<TheLinuxBug> which is located for example on mmcblk0p1 on SDcard dists
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<TheLinuxBug> and is on the first partition of the NAND
<TheLinuxBug> so if you cant to load from USB
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<tct> I don't have a SD card
<tct> or functional NAND
<tct> I just have a USB stick now
<TheLinuxBug> you would copy rootfs to USB then change the rootfs= in uEnv.txt to be the USB stick
<tct> with the rootfs in it
<TheLinuxBug> then boot that way
<TheLinuxBug> but if you read those resources above and follow them
<TheLinuxBug> instead of being lazy, you will see how its done, the wiki gives all details
<TheLinuxBug> There is no 'easy way'
<TheLinuxBug> you will have to do work
<TheLinuxBug> and learn in the process
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<tct> I have uEnv.txt on the first partition on USB stick
<tct> which points to second partition on USB stick, with the rootfs
<tct> However, I seem not able to boot on USB stick using FEL button
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<TheLinuxBug> no you would boot from NAND uBoot partition and then have it load rootfs off the USB
<TheLinuxBug> if your gonna try to boot whole thing you have to install uboot on the usb stick
<TheLinuxBug> go read as I said
<TheLinuxBug> you keep trying to take shortcuts
<TheLinuxBug> you won't be sucessful that way
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<tct> TheLinuxBug: I tried setenv root /dev/mmcblk0p2; saveenv; boot
<tct> Didn't work
<tct> That's the second partition on the USB stick having the rootfs
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<GeneralStupid> Hi does anyone have an allwinner with rt2x00usb.ko for android?
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<GeneralStupid> Or an android built with more USB modules...
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<TheLinuxBug> f or what device/platform?
<GeneralStupid> allwinner H3
<GeneralStupid> Android
<TheLinuxBug> no, good luck on that
<GeneralStupid> I think A20/A10 should also work ?
<TheLinuxBug> there isn't mainline support on that yet
<TheLinuxBug> so you will need to rebuild from the sources provided by bendor
<TheLinuxBug> vendor
<GeneralStupid> TheLinuxBug: i have an already working android.... everything is done by allwinner (or sunxi?)
<GeneralStupid> TheLinuxBug: i just miss the WLAN USB drivers
<TheLinuxBug> yeah you will need to get the kernel source for the kernel used in that android install and compile a module
<GeneralStupid> "Just" :-D It's useless without Network
<TheLinuxBug> I did it for my A10 android rlses
<GeneralStupid> TheLinuxBug: i cannot use a different, like a cubieboard kernel?
<GeneralStupid> TheLinuxBug: that page, its yours?
<TheLinuxBug> no I produced the images at the top and host them though
<TheLinuxBug> I did the work for the A10 so there was SD card bootable android
<TheLinuxBug> but all you need to do is setup a cross compile enviroment with the kernel source provided by orangepi
<TheLinuxBug> and then compile the wireless modules you need
<buZz> or compile it on the board itself ;)
<TheLinuxBug> then copy the .ko over to your little server
<TheLinuxBug> or that
<TheLinuxBug> lol
<buZz> ^_^
<TheLinuxBug> whatever works for you
* buZz waves at GeneralStupid
<GeneralStupid> But iam not experienced in building android kernel
<GeneralStupid> buZz: hi ;)
<buZz> :)
<buZz> building android kernel is same as linux kernel
<TheLinuxBug> You know what the best part about these small computers are?
<buZz> hmm
<TheLinuxBug> there is a lot of information out there on how to do things :) So you should be able to find a resource that teaches you to easily
<buZz> they get through airport security?
<GeneralStupid> TheLinuxBug: throwing them away is not that hard?
<buZz> ah
<buZz> lol
<buZz> TheLinuxBug: i like that its easy to find 3d printable cases for them :)
<TheLinuxBug> I guess I could just say RTFM but that seems less genuine :p
<TheLinuxBug> heheh yeah
<TheLinuxBug> that too
<GeneralStupid> the problem with android related stuff is there are too many "script kiddies" and their questions which hide the interesting stuff
<TheLinuxBug> GeneralStupid: http://linux-sunxi.org has a ton of information
<TheLinuxBug> and past that google and you should be able to find quick resources
<buZz> yeah #android isnt a useful channel
<GeneralStupid> there was one guy who told me how to push and pull the module with adb ...
<GeneralStupid> He didnt understand that my problem is to get these modules...
<TheLinuxBug> All you need to do is find the android klernel in use on your system
<TheLinuxBug> go download the android kernel source
<TheLinuxBug> and do makconfig and set the wlan modules you want as M
<GeneralStupid> Linux version 3.4.39 (gt@gt-server) (gcc version 4.6.3 20120201 (prerelease) (crosstool-NG linaro-1.13.1-2012.02-20120222 - Linaro GCC 2012.02) )
<TheLinuxBug> then make modules
<TheLinuxBug> go grab the .ko
<GeneralStupid> its like the normal linux kernel? Then i know...
<GeneralStupid> But whats the difference at all, why cant i use standard linux modukles
<TheLinuxBug> copy to your machine in lib/modules/kernelversion/kernel/drivers/usb
<TheLinuxBug> Because it is arm?
<GeneralStupid> TheLinuxBug: i have two OrangePi - Allwinner H3 boards
<GeneralStupid> its armhf - debian
<TheLinuxBug> ok?
<TheLinuxBug> as long as its built on the device you should be able to copy it over as long as kernel version is the same?
<TheLinuxBug> otherwise you need to compiled for that kernel version
<GeneralStupid> and it didnt worked... insmod: init_module 'rt2x00usb.ko' failed (Exec format error)
<TheLinuxBug> exactly
<TheLinuxBug> so you will need to get android kernel
<TheLinuxBug> matching version
<GeneralStupid> the kernel version is "equal" ok not exactly
<TheLinuxBug> and compile the module for it
<GeneralStupid> ok where do i get an 3.4.39 android kernel?!
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<TheLinuxBug> Google is your friend
<GeneralStupid> TheLinuxBug: what do you think about https://github.com/libv/linux-sunxi/tree/a23sdk_frankenkernel
<buZz> h3 isnt a23
<GeneralStupid> a20 is sun7i like h3 is... i thought it could work?
<buZz> a23 isnt a20 ;)
<GeneralStupid> it is really great that the h3 is so cheap
<TheLinuxBug> android sdk source code
<GeneralStupid> TheLinuxBug: try to download it :-D
<GeneralStupid> TheLinuxBug: for me that site is not working
<TheLinuxBug> hmm
<TheLinuxBug> which one you have
<TheLinuxBug> 2?
<GeneralStupid> orangepic pc
<GeneralStupid> orangepi pc
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<TheLinuxBug> awesome
<TheLinuxBug> yeah they are broke
<GeneralStupid> this one works, but there is no sdk and the images are garbage
<TheLinuxBug> lol
<TheLinuxBug> OrangPi is awesome
<TheLinuxBug> half their crap is taken down for DMCA
<TheLinuxBug> cause they just copied it
<TheLinuxBug> and the other half is passworded
<TheLinuxBug> ahaha
<TheLinuxBug> so yeah the github for orangpi linux kernel is non existant
<TheLinuxBug> this may be useful for you thought later http://www.orangepi.org/orangepibbsen/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=342
<GeneralStupid> its a nice board and i know that stuff, i'am computer scientist developing ASIPs :) But this makes me depressive.
<GeneralStupid> Because, you know it would easily work if you HAD access to their sources... It was no Problem to build the linux kernel and bring it to work... But
<TheLinuxBug> well orangePi kinda is cheap for a reason
<TheLinuxBug> their community support is abysmal
<GeneralStupid> "you get what you pay for"
<TheLinuxBug> they just expect linux-sunxi to do the work for them
<GeneralStupid> i wont use android for that... But its the easiest way to get the hardware acclerated video stuff...
<GeneralStupid> iam also not using orangepi android - i use an image for the beelink X2 ( http://freaktab.com/forum/tv-player-support/allwinner-tv-players/531041-rom-sc_v1-1-custom-rom-beelink-x2 )
<GeneralStupid> which works best - except usb wifi :)
<TheLinuxBug> I se
<GeneralStupid> why did these guys not use github for their sources
<TheLinuxBug> they did they just copied a bunch of their work from bananapi and other makers
<TheLinuxBug> so a lot of its been torn apart
<GeneralStupid> but bananapi's support is also not that good
<TheLinuxBug> Yeah but Lewmakre had some people in the beginning that at least spent time deving stuff for the board
<TheLinuxBug> thats the difference
<TheLinuxBug> Orangpi just made a board and started selling it
<TheLinuxBug> GeneralStupid: if I weren't busy working I would look more but don't have time atm
<GeneralStupid> Me too - thats why i switched to android, because everything works :)
<GeneralStupid> except for...
<TheLinuxBug> If you look around I am telling you you can find the source you need and build your kernel module
<TheLinuxBug> I just don't have the time to help you look for it
<GeneralStupid> i just found an android SDK from a draco TV Box...
<GeneralStupid> it looks like that is the source for all that android images
<GeneralStupid> dead links, dead repositories
<GeneralStupid> oh i have found one on baidu
<GeneralStupid> ok i have a question, how do i configure / compile an android kernel?!
<GeneralStupid> menuconfig das not work
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<tct> TheLinuxBug: I succeeded by doing this: http://paste.debian.net/334451/
<tct> Thanks for helping
<TheLinuxBug> ;)
<TheLinuxBug> I knew you could do it
<tct> I stil used a script
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