dkubb changed the topic of #datamapper to: Datamapper v1.2.0 | Mailing List: http://is.gd/aa9D | Logs: http://is.gd/qWAL7V | DataMapper 2 Renamed to ROM, see #rom-rb for development
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<snusnu> !memo mbj here are 2 consecutive mutant runs for concord, without any code changes in between: http://pastie.org/pastes/8116496/text
<Cinchy> snusnu: Memo recorded for mbj.
<snusnu> !memo mbj while the noop failure seems to be a mutant/unparser bug, imo mutating some_class.send(:protected, *names) to some_class.send(:protected) is not valid
<Cinchy> snusnu: Memo recorded for mbj.
<snusnu> !memo mbj it leaves the class in a state, where consecutive defines are in protected scope, which is wrong on the one hand, impossible(?) to test against, and furthermore i believe it could be the reason for the "random" passing/failing
<Cinchy> snusnu: Memo recorded for mbj.
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<mbj> .
<Cinchy> mbj: [44m 5s ago] <snusnu> here are 2 consecutive mutant runs for concord, without any code changes in between: http://pastie.org/pastes/8116496/text
<Cinchy> mbj: [42m 4s ago] <snusnu> it leaves the class in a state, where consecutive defines are in protected scope, which is wrong on the one hand, impossible(?) to test against, and furthermore i believe it could be the reason for the "random" passing/failing
<Cinchy> mbj: [43m 19s ago] <snusnu> while the noop failure seems to be a mutant/unparser bug, imo mutating some_class.send(:protected, *names) to some_class.send(:protected) is not valid
<mbj> snusnu: sorry, my battery ran out
<mbj> snusnu: I'll look into this tormorrow, but IMHO I think your conclusion is wrong.
<mbj> snusnu: I'll prove this via killing the mutants :D
<snusnu> mbj: please do so
<snusnu> mbj: i couldn't think of a way
<snusnu> mbj: also, imo that spec should be enough, but it isn't: https://github.com/mbj/concord/blob/master/spec/unit/concord/universal_spec.rb#L40-L43
<snusnu> mbj: srsly tho, mutating the way mutant does now, leaves the class in a state that "isn't safe anymore"
<mbj> snusnu: not true, visibility is not "cached"
<mbj> snusnu: class Foo; private; def bar; end; end; class Foo; def; baz; end; end
<mbj> snusnu: Foo#baz is public!
<mbj> But dont lets discuss this now, I'll go to sleep now.
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