07:57 <devyn> whitequark: I can definitely do GUI stuff

07:57 <devyn> it's kind of my job

11:03 <devyn> whitequark: hope you're still collecting data haha, tonight was interesting

15:19 <whitequark> devyn: unfortunately it crashed ://

15:21 <whitequark> ok, I got a backtrace, so that'll be fixed

15:22 <whitequark> devyn: when you read this: let's coordinate in a more organized way mkay?

15:22 <whitequark> this timezone shit is annoying. I can synchronize with you on occasion, but *living* on US time is unsustainable

15:23 <whitequark> partly because everything's closed at night, even in Moscow, partly because looking at the window and only seeing pitch black at the top and dirty white at the bottom is probably the most depressing thing I know

15:25 <whitequark> unrelated: this person wins the internet, hands down: http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1s8pq5/guys_of_reddit_whats_the_weirdest_place_youve/cdv7r4a

17:00 <whitequark> oh, talking about vegetables, I just remembered

17:00 <whitequark> -34 zucchini

17:00 <purr> whitequark: ... if you had any sense, you wouldn't have asked.

17:00 <purr> whitequark: Here. <http://bit.ly/1gfksHd> [NSFW]

17:00 <whitequark> creative.

17:19 <whitequark> devyn: ok squashed the bug, from now on recording should be uninterrupted

17:19 <whitequark> also you can do ssh trader@othalan.whitequark.org

17:19 <whitequark> tmux attach

19:23 <alextgordon> fucking contravariance

19:23 <alextgordon> why does the universe have to be so illogical

19:26 <whitequark> huh?

19:27 <alextgordon> the mere existence of contravariance shows that god doesn't exist

19:27 <alextgordon> if he did, everything would be covariant, and it would be Good.

19:31 <whitequark> what?

19:31 <joelteon> i finally got my car guys

19:31 <alextgordon> whitequark: you weren't here when the channel was 100% metaphysics, were you?

19:34 <whitequark> what?

19:36 <whitequark> I need pet mice

21:51 <joelteon> so i might be moving all my shit to heroku

22:02 <alexgordon> joelteon: did you win the lottery?

22:03 <joelteon> yeah, i won the one that lets you use the free services for free

22:24 <whitequark> it sucks

22:25 <whitequark> I bet you can shell out $5 for DO

22:25 <joelteon> heroku does?

22:31 <joelteon> i'm already using DO, but deployment with heroku is a lot faster

22:41 <whitequark> yeah, it does

22:41 <whitequark> it's incredibly expensive, and not really good at doing what it does either

22:41 <whitequark> because limited at features and slow

22:41 <whitequark> I would literally never use heroku

22:45 <joelteon> ok

22:46 <joelteon> ok, you're the third person that's said that, so I'm starting to think heroku is a bad idea

22:47 <alexgordon> joelteon: hahaha

22:47 <alexgordon> joelteon: it's just... very expensive for what it is

22:47 <joelteon> i noticed that

22:47 <alexgordon> it's designed for valley guys who get paid $200k

22:48 <joelteon> you add 1 dyno and you pay $35/month

22:48 <alexgordon> so heroku is a drop in the ocean

22:48 <alexgordon> but not plebs like us

22:48 <joelteon> yeah

22:48 <alexgordon> whitequark: right, comrade?

22:48 <joelteon> well i don't want to waste money

22:49 <alexgordon> digitalocean FTW

22:49 <joelteon> yeah digitalocean is cool

22:54 <joelteon> I just need SOME way to deploy that's easier than booting up a VM

22:54 <joelteon> or creating a cross-compiler

22:54 <joelteon> i smell a startup

23:04 <whitequark> digitalocean is pretty crappy too

23:04 <whitequark> but it's cheap

23:05 <joelteon> what's not crappy

23:05 <whitequark> linode

23:05 <joelteon> linode is expensive

23:06 <whitequark> not really. also, you asked for not crappy.

23:06 <joelteon> what's not crappy about linode

23:09 <whitequark> twice RAM, twice storage, twice transfer and 8x the cores, for 4x price ($20)

23:10 <whitequark> mainly, linode is good for cpu-heavy applications

23:11 <joelteon> oh ok

23:11 <joelteon> so theoretically I could actually build *on* a linode

23:12 <whitequark> yes

23:12 <joelteon> that would be cool

23:12 <joelteon> i'm tempted to try it

23:16 <joelteon> for $20 a month?

23:16 <joelteon> I'm already spending more than that

23:16 <joelteon> i'm gonna try it

23:16 <joelteon> do they have private networking?

23:17 <whitequark> yes