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<joelteon> are there any decent alternatives to google analytics?
<joelteon> man, diaspora is written for admins who have NO IDEA what they're doing
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<whitequark> joelteon: there is
<whitequark> piwik
<joelteon> is it a hosted service, or do I host it myself?
<joelteon> why does it come in a zip file
<joelteon> all sorts of things are happening here
<joelteon> oh it's PHP
<joelteon> lol.
<purr> lol
<joelteon> well the typography is nice
<whitequark> self-hosed
<whitequark> which imo is a plus
<joelteon> yeah
<joelteon> ok, well, it's the next best thing
<joelteon> i'm in the "fuck google" phase
<joelteon> That's pretty cool
<joelteon> I want one
<whitequark> buy it
<whitequark> but beware, the electronics is... well... it came from 1990 to haunt you
<joelteon> oh
<joelteon> ):
<whitequark> you need an LPT port and a specialized build of realtime linux
<whitequark> hardware LPT port, an USB-LPT adapter won't work
<whitequark> this one: http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~heha/bastelecke/Rund%20um%20den%20PC/USB2LPT/ul-16.en.htm *might* just work, but you'd need to hack the software
<whitequark> and assemble the adapter yourself
<whitequark> honestly I'm just going to gut its control block completely and redo it from scratch
<joelteon> yay, piwik has inconsistent capitalization
<joelteon> well
<joelteon> I'm glad they make stuff so user-friendly
<joelteon> few things I forgot that I hate about PHP (:
<joelteon> blank white page? yeah, there's an error, that's expected behavior
<whitequark> tail /var/log/syslog
<joelteon> haha, you're cute
<whitequark> no, seriously, php-cgi writes errors there
<whitequark> that's how I debugged piwik back when I used it
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<joelteon> well, sometimes it does
<joelteon> or maybe there was too much syslog output and I missed it
<whitequark> -_- that sudden situation where the only phone charger you have has an US plug
<whitequark> and you're not from US, in US or ever been to US
<whitequark> fortunately I also have an adapter... actually, why do I have one? idfk
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<whitequark> russian in a nutshell: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BcZjBi0CEAAvjmO.jpg:large
<alexgordon> whitequark: hahaha
<whitequark> it's not quite fair though, some of those are equivalent to "ran" "have been running" etc etc
<whitequark> but at least 3x-4x explosion in forms is present
<joelteon> hey can one of you guys visit joelt.io real quick
<joelteon> i want to figure out if piwik is actually collecting anything
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<whitequark> fascinating shit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carboxysomes
<yorickpeterse> joelteon: visited + ran siege
<yorickpeterse> should do it
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<devyn> whitequark: number of forms in Japanese is effectively infinite because negatives can be chained forever
<whitequark> devyn: arguably that is a degenerate form
<devyn> well no one does it anyway
<devyn> :p
<devyn> just saying
<devyn> pretty simple
<joelteon> yorickpeterse: thanks
<joelteon> no visitors whatsoever
<joelteon> something is suspicious
<joelteon> oh, whoops
<joelteon> i know why
<joelteon> the script is 404ing
<joelteon> hey, what CA do you guys use?
<cuttle> devyn: same as english, have been going to have been going to have been going to
<cuttle> devyn: though I don't think it can happen in french
<cuttle> devyn: maybe je vais aller faire or something
<cuttle> whitequark: haha I love that russian conjugation thing
<cuttle> although recursion and the potential for infinitely long sentences is basically a defining property of human language (ignoring dennett and piraha)
<cuttle> everett*, not dennett
<joelteon> wildcards are crazy expensive
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