16:43 <ljharb> jfhbrook: don't want to get into it with sinclair, because fuck that guy, but i just started a new job and the title is "staff" but if i compare to my last company it's senior staff or principal, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

16:43 <jfhbrook> hah!

16:43 <jfhbrook> yeah ok that's what I thought

16:44 <ec> wut

16:45 <ljharb> ec: carryover from ##javascript, sorry for no-context

16:45 <jfhbrook> yeah, I dropped into ##javascript a few days ago, I've been learning react and refamiliarizing myself with things

16:45 <ljharb> welcome back :-p

16:46 <jfhbrook> I like am simultaneously remembering all the bad parts of javascript - I started typing Number.isNaN after a parseInt(n, 10) and started getting really mad even as my brain remembered the necessary idioms - but also, holy crap object literals <3

16:46 <ec> haha hahahah “AwwJS” is a real thing

16:47 <jfhbrook> the only other language I know of w/ object literals is scala and they're *bizarre* in scala

16:47 <ec> this is your weekly reminder to mind your mental health and practice self-care by writing all of your JS in ML 🥰

16:47 <jfhbrook> hah

16:47 <ec> not e’en kiddin

16:47 <jfhbrook> I was just talking to someone about learning ocaml and using it to write a new programming language that does things the way I think are good

16:47 <ec> ocaml is the best javascript

16:47 <jfhbrook> we were discussing row polymorphism, which I find deeply appealing

16:48 <ec> it’s so wonderful

16:48 <ec> mind you we only use it raaaaarely

16:48 <jfhbrook> but I'm imagining a dynamic language that uses prototypes and has object literals but also has first class type checking support

16:48 <ec> ocaml’s a bit like JS in that there’s an “idiomatic subset” that is capable of doing almost anything ergonomically, and life stays a lot simpler if you stick to that idiomatic subset

16:48 <jfhbrook> yeah makes sense

16:49 <ec> but unlike JS, that’s ‘not cuz the rest is *bad*; it’s just because it’s … well, unnecessarily powerful.

16:49 <ec> a bit of a comprehensibility-footgun.

16:49 <jfhbrook> yeah gotcha

16:49 <ec> mostly ocaml is written as just. caml. lol. we really only use the objective features in weird circumstances.

16:49 <jfhbrook> oh but my javascript project is really neat

16:50 <jfhbrook> I made an electron app that implements a cli-like repl but the "commands" are react components written in jsx

16:50 <jfhbrook> so it dynamically renders the component and the component is in charge of managing its own execution

16:50 <jfhbrook> hold on I have a hilarious gist of a sleep command

16:50 <jfhbrook> https://gist.github.com/jfhbrook/2043e5d87ffff1a232d6e2f043ad8bd7

16:51 <jfhbrook> incidentally this is where the int parsing was coming in

16:52 <jfhbrook> but yeah at some point I have to refactor these hooks into a coherent "process" interface

17:02 <jfhbrook> gotta write a logger :)

17:02 <jfhbrook> and uh, there was something else I needed that's escaping me now

17:03 <jfhbrook> oh, I need a way to crud configs

17:04 <jfhbrook> and I need to paper over the ipc interface - I was considering dusting off dnode funny enough

17:06 <jfhbrook> man it hasn't been touched in like 7 years 😱