whitequark changed the topic of #glasgow to: glasgow debug tool · code https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/Glasgow · logs https://freenode.irclog.whitequark.org/glasgow
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<_whitenotifier-3> [GlasgowEmbedded/Glasgow] whitequark pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/fjnVP
<_whitenotifier-3> [GlasgowEmbedded/Glasgow] whitequark 0e0adeb - applet.memory.floppy: implement "new" PLL and fix some bugs.
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<yorick> whitequark: I have time for one of these
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<_whitenotifier-3> [Glasgow] yorickvP opened pull request #140: database.microchip: generate AVRDevices from xml files - https://git.io/fjnPi
<_whitenotifier-3> [Glasgow] electroniceel commented on pull request #140: database.microchip: generate AVRDevices from xml files - https://git.io/fjnXU
<_whitenotifier-3> [Glasgow] electroniceel commented on pull request #140: database.microchip: generate AVRDevices from xml files - https://git.io/fjnXm
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<whitequark> yorick: here's one issue with that approach
<whitequark> before we can do that, it's necessary to classify the devices
<whitequark> that is, there's no real guarantee that they are using the same commands to read or write memory, and i strongly suspect some of them don't
<whitequark> avrdude uses the "memory" section to handle this, but i think this is an ad-hoc approach that is ultimately worse in the long run than grouping the devices into some coherent sets and then handling those
<whitequark> that's what i meant by "classify" above
<spacekookie> Hey btw is there gonna be a crowdsupply run for revC1 any time soon?
<spacekookie> Not even for assembled boards but to get some mass discounts on components :P
<whitequark> let's talk about this after revC1 prototypes are validated
<spacekookie> pfff who needs that?
* apo
<apo> would love to work with hardware that actually works for once
<sorear> i'm sure we can also get a mass discount on mod wires
<spacekookie> Unvalidated hardware ends up looking more cyberpunk anyway
<spacekookie> I guess I'll wait for some news on that front before trying to make my own
<sorear> well we never needed a1 or b1 ;)
<whitequark> b0 is a1
<whitequark> it just predates a reasonable versioning scheme
<whitequark> and then i told everyone what revC is
<spacekookie> I usually use rev A for development, meaning there's usually a rev A12 but never more than a B2 :P
<whitequark> revB was supposed to be the final one :P
<spacekookie> Also hey sorear, fancy seeing you here!
<spacekookie> :D
<spacekookie> "This will be the final revision" are famous last words
<apo> really really real final revision (2) no I mean it (3).docx
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<gruetzkopf> not sure if i can get free rv promo again
<gruetzkopf> *tv :D
<electronic_eel> are the revC1 prototypes already made by esden? so that his process, component database,... is also tested?
<whitequark> not yet
<electronic_eel> i mean if he is responsible, not someone else
<electronic_eel> that they aren't ready yet is clear
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<esden> I am at latchup at the moment. I will order the parts and pcb for revc1 prototype run this week. When I am back home.
<electronic_eel> esden: nice
<electronic_eel> having fun at latchup?
<electronic_eel> the list of talks looks nice
<esden> Yeah it is a lot of fun! Quite a good crowd. Fairly small though. But I bet it will grow over time. :)
<esden> The talks are recorded but no replacement for the personal interactions :)
<electronic_eel> of course
<_whitenotifier-3> [GlasgowEmbedded/Glasgow] whitequark pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/fjnyq
<_whitenotifier-3> [GlasgowEmbedded/Glasgow] whitequark f96a686 - applet.interface.uart: allow connecting UART to a socket.