<Bouowmx>
My experience with Gridcoin is that if you're set-up correctly, everything will fall into place over a few days
<Sethius>
I was given a copy/paste for the .conf file two days ago.
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by adotout1 - Is Cereal Soup? - YouTube
<adotout1>
that took awhile
<Mumps>
Some of the nodes in the "master" list you get with installing the wallet don't exist and I suspect they cause syncing to slow down...
<Mumps>
If you have anything close to a modern connection to the Internet, it shouldn't take 3 days to get in sync, even starting from 0 rather than using the snapshot...
<Sethius>
The blocks number stopped moving from last night to this morning, so I told it to download blocks. My number is now lower than it was, but it looks like it's still moving.
<adotout1>
of course as soon as i look at boinc it says cpu is busy
<adotout1>
OF COURSE
<Bouowmx>
Some CPU eh
<dinisconceicao>
how often do you download the block?
<adotout1>
i have an i5 4690k overclocked to 4.0 GHz
<adotout1>
So yeah
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<Mumps>
Only once. When you first start out.
<adotout1>
it is some CPU
<adotout1>
:P
<Sethius>
I'll stop pressing the button, then. :-P
<Mumps>
Unless your local copy gets corrupted, and that lets you restart at least close to in sync.
<dinisconceicao>
what happen if you do it more then once
<CptFlashbang>
Im on my 5th time!
<Bouowmx>
Intel Core i7-4710HQ WHICH MY LAPTOP CAN'T TAKE THE HEAT
<adotout1>
dayum
<Katiee>
Redownloading the blocks means it starts from 0 again
<Katiee>
so yea dont do that
<adotout1>
put your laptop it your freezer
<Mumps>
It's basically just restarting you back at whatever point the block download is at.
<adotout1>
solves all the problems
<Katiee>
if the block count stops moving
<Sethius>
I will keep that in mind.
<Katiee>
just restart the wallet
<Katiee>
sometimes the wallet can get stuck while downloading the blocks
<Katiee>
but a restart will fix it
<Mumps>
Yup.
<Bouowmx>
Seriously, Intel says 47-W TDP and Acer decides to cut corners in cooling
<adotout1>
lol
<Katiee>
btw Hi Mumps :P Good to see ya again~
<Mumps>
Heya Katiee
<adotout1>
i'd like to see a laptop with a desktop cooler
<adotout1>
it would look hilarious
<Mumps>
Been hanging in the channel, but out and about for the past week plus.
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<adotout1>
just this gigantic base with a tiny screen
<Mumps>
Amazing what's happening during my experiment in watching Mag decay. :)
<Katiee>
yea ive been sick for the past couple weeks, so I went completely MIA there for a bit x.x
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Is it raining time? 1 GRC for 10 lucky users every 3 hours! Don't forget to tip me to keep the rain going!
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
!rain 10 10
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! [-SaRaFiNa-] rained 1 GRC on d3v_nu11, CircinusPrime, betaboot, Phoenix911, kopykat, diceA, LonelyFox, Codmadnesspro_, fdisc, hockachu! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
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<Mumps>
Yeah, I noticed you popping in every now and then. Hopefully the pollen counts get back to realistic soon to help you out...
<Katiee>
its weird tho because I used to have REALLY bad nose allergies, like ever seen I was little. But a few years ago it just stopped, completely. But then Oct/Nov of last year, I started getting really bad rashes on my arms, legs and feet. I went to the dr. they couldn't really tell me anything. During the winter it stopped. But then the FIRST hot day of spring, I got them again.. and they havent
<Katiee>
went away since..
<Katiee>
ever since I was*
<customminer>
pesticides on farms nearby?
<Katiee>
Not really ang farms nearby that I know of
<Katiee>
any*
<Katiee>
But maybe
<Katiee>
I've given up trying to find out what it is :/
<Nycti>
could be some privet trees near by.
<Katiee>
its weird too, because it started 2 weeks after I started my Soylent diet...
<Katiee>
But I really dont think thats what caused it
<Katiee>
but who knows
<customminer>
are you still on soylent?
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<customminer>
sue soylent! :D
<Katiee>
no
<Katiee>
i stopped right after the first rashes
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<Katiee>
and as far as I can tell, food allegeries should happen RIGHT away, not after 2 weeks
<adotout1>
ugh so full
<Sethius>
Soylent made me poo. Couldn't consume more than one dose per day.
<adotout1>
i literally only ate 1 slice of pizza
<adotout1>
and im full
<adotout1>
what is wrong with me
<Katiee>
I love soylent, im just scared to keep drinking it
<Katiee>
I still have bags of it x.x
<Sethius>
I've had many bags of it sitting around for months. I like the new one that comes in liquid form much better.
<Mumps>
Soylent Green... Isn't that made from People?
<customminer>
duno.. did you see the vice interview with soylent?
<Mumps>
:)
<Sethius>
Yeah, but we're talking about Soylent Beige.
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by adotout1 - Dropbox - Beige_Like_Pureed_Cheereos_And_Khakis.PNG
<adotout1>
Im going to tip you for that
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<adotout1>
just because of the quality of that joke
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<stevle>
Hey guys, I have was wondering if any body else ever has an issue where their projects task will say "waiting for memory" even when I have more RAM for it to use?
<Sethius>
Squee! *begins earnestly pursuing a career in IRC stand-up*
<stevle>
It's also configured to use the RAM
<stevle>
the project is atlas@home
<stevle>
It ran all night, got to 99-100% and just stayed there and is now saying "waiting for memory"
<stevle>
should I just try another project?
<adotout1>
Now i have to wait for it to confirm
<adotout1>
im tipping you 2 grc
<adotout1>
i have like
<adotout1>
13 grc in total
<adotout1>
im pathetic
<Katiee>
stevils how much RAM do u have?
<stevle>
I've got 2.98, and it was tipped to me xD
<Katiee>
Atlas uses a lot
<stevle>
Don't feel so bad
<Sethius>
That's three times as many as I have.
<stevle>
Okay, then that's probably the issue, I've only got 8GB total atm. I'm going to be buying 2 more 8GB sticks soon
<adotout1>
but why
<stevle>
I'll just run another project until I've got more RAM. thank's katiee
<Katiee>
yea thats probably it then
<Katiee>
8gb isnt a lot for atlas
<adotout1>
why would you have 24 gb?
<adotout1>
its such an ugly number
<CptFlashbang>
I only have 8!
<adotout1>
go 16gb or go all the way for 32gb
<Chick3nman>
you want ugly?
<Chick3nman>
my rackmount has 25GB of RAM
<Chick3nman>
25
<adotout1>
i dont really care xD
<stevle>
I dind't mean 2 more 8GB sticks, I meant 2 more 4GB sticks for another 8 GB total
<Chick3nman>
WTF IS THAT
<adotout1>
UGHGHHGHHGHGHGHG
<stevle>
a total of 16
<adotout1>
WHY
<Chick3nman>
I KNOW
<adotout1>
WHY WOULD YOU HAVE 25
<Chick3nman>
Y
<Chick3nman>
IT CAME WITH IT
<Katiee>
25 is a great number tho
<adotout1>
THATS WAY WORSE
<stevle>
thanks katie, i'll just run another CPU project then. I guess that's why it wasn't that puplar
<adotout1>
i know a few songs from that game on piano
<Randomacts>
noice
<Mumps>
If you added CSG through the pool, if you look in your Boinc Manager, it should say you have the project added under the Pool username rather than your own.
<Katiee>
cool song :D
<Mumps>
And he never saw that... :)
<adotout1>
mhm
<Katiee>
yea was going to tell him that Mumps, but he left :/
<adotout1>
and the thing about that song, is the place in the game where it plays and the story that goes along with it
<Sethius>
I clicked a slide bar and it looksl ike everything reset.
<errand>
because I have a main rig and a weird ARM board, which is compatible with a limited number of projects. I don't want the main rig to work on any of them, only the board
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by adotout1 - Content type: image/png
<Sethius>
All right, I'm going to attempt a novel approach (for me, probably not for you). I'm going to just stop touching the damn thing for 24 hours. No more interference at all.
<Sethius>
(My doctor would be so proud)
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<Katiee>
I believe I told someone to just change their password a long time ago because of that xD
<Mumps>
I've had a bit of time playing with boinccmd command line parameters... :)
<Katiee>
tbh I never thought the BOINC devs would be that smart
<Mumps>
What's really stupid is the way it handles the Proxy settings... :)
<errand>
xD
<Mumps>
BOINC devs have nothing to do with that. It's the shell you need to get things past. :)
<MiXa1972>
рш
<MiXa1972>
hi
<adotout1>
yeah, the people who made a program to frickin' combine the power of thousands of computers can't be THAT smart
<adotout1>
:)
<adotout1>
smiley face to show im not being serious
<adotout1>
oh
<adotout1>
there's a person called smiley on
<Katiee>
im very serious tho, there are MANY problems with BOINC lol
<Katiee>
and the devs arent exactly the nicest of people
<adotout1>
yeah, but it's still amazing what it can do hehe
<Katiee>
it was amazing, 10 years ago :P
<numb162>
true
<adotout1>
still amazing to me
<Katiee>
it needs to be completely redesigned from the ground up
<adotout1>
:D
<numb162>
it seems a lot like its old technology and the devs are stuck in their ways
<Katiee>
they just dont have the money or manpower anymore to do so
<Katiee>
So I understand that
<numb162>
like have you seen the SETI@Home website?? *shudders*
<Katiee>
But still, they could be doing more
<adotout1>
*checks seti@home website*
<adotout1>
*shudders*
<numb162>
I mean at least some of the websites could be visually updated, I have yet to see a boinc website other than the gridcoin one that looks even remotely like it belongs in this century
<caraka>
climateprediction.net looks like it just made it into this millenium
<caraka>
not far mind you, but it's here
<adotout1>
but web design is harrdddddddddd
<Katiee>
the backend of the web servers is the worst part tho
<adotout1>
yeah definitely
<Katiee>
still using md5 hashes for passwords :<
<adotout1>
UGH NO
<numb162>
backend is hard
<Katiee>
ugh yes
<numb162>
frontend isnt nearly as tough though
<adotout1>
ugh
<caraka>
It's true katiee - even CPDN is forced to use the boinc infrastructure on the backend
<adotout1>
i really want to change my password now
<adotout1>
xD
<adotout1>
if you get sql injected
<adotout1>
well
<adotout1>
nvm
<adotout1>
md5 is still pretty bad
<adotout1>
you might wanna use a better hashing algorithm
<Katiee>
the worst part is, md5 is a requirement too, like I had no choice but to use md5 hashes for the pool, HOWEVER I hashed the md5 again with something better in my database
<Katiee>
so passwords are safe in my database, but..
<adotout1>
goood
<adotout1>
ok thank god :P
<adotout1>
but why?
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<Katiee>
its complicated lol
<Katiee>
but rest assured, I don't store the md5 hashes themself lol
<adotout1>
thats how web dev is
<adotout1>
2complicated2explaine
<Katiee>
yea lol
<adotout1>
i havent touched web development in a few moths
<adotout1>
months*
<Katiee>
its completely impossible for me to recover passwords lol
<adotout1>
i had a web server hosted on a raspberry pi
<adotout1>
but i had to unplug it because i ran out of plugs on the power strip i have
<adotout1>
and i had to use 3 for the
<adotout1>
monitor, speakers and computer
<adotout1>
for my new computer
<adotout1>
thats one way to phrase that lol
<Katiee>
yea i finally unplugged my jally the other day so I could plug up my external drive ha
<Katiee>
not like it was making many GRC anyways
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<gizmodroid>
katiee: did you fix the pool sync issue?! No errors
<gizmodroid>
exciting times we live in
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<omnibusinc>
it doesn't appear possible to register for a new account for the Wu project. Is anyone else experiencing this?
<gizmodroid>
omnibuinc
<gizmodroid>
omnibuinc: some of them turn off web registration
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<gizmodroid>
I got around it by manually adding the project to boinc. It will walk you through creating a new account
<omnibusinc>
ah, ok
<omnibusinc>
thanks
<gizmodroid>
np
<HackerChai>
wuprop iz gud
<omnibusinc>
I'm still not totally clear on whether I actually _need_ to do that if I'm mining for the pool
<HackerChai>
huh
<HackerChai>
wuprop + pool
<HackerChai>
wut
<HackerChai>
doesn't work that way lol
<omnibusinc>
it's in the pool's list of available projects. Why doesn't it work that way?
<HackerChai>
isn't it like join a team or something and submit your device id
<HackerChai>
I thought team auto gives you projects to do
<omnibusinc>
no, you select them
<HackerChai>
Oh
<HackerChai>
Memory still stuck in the past
<HackerChai>
the pool that terminated
<HackerChai>
I solo mine now
<HackerChai>
it was like attach a bam! weak key
<HackerChai>
then check logs for device id
<HackerChai>
and add it on web panel
<gizmodroid>
omnibusinc: yeah, I mean, I did it for all the projects I was interested in (manually add account project, create account, join team gridcoin) then removed them all from the boinc manager and set them up in the pool.gridcoin.us
<gizmodroid>
But I don't think you have to
<gizmodroid>
I did it because I was thinking I may go solo
<gizmodroid>
at some point
<itzapizza>
do I need to do link my wallet to my boinc account, outside of my email address, to receive gridcoins?
<HackerChai>
solo iz gud
<omnibusinc>
ok, I'll leave it grinding and we'll see if it shows up in a bit
<HackerChai>
I got 257 grc for PoR and it disappeared
<omnibusinc>
@hacckerChai can you actually generate GRC that way?
<HackerChai>
weird
<HackerChai>
huh
<omnibusinc>
I mean, with BTC there's no way to solo mine, unless you have a warehouse in China full of ASICs
<omnibusinc>
is it different in the GRC world?
<HackerChai>
gridcoin will never become as extreme
<HackerChai>
it was specifically said
<omnibusinc>
so, solo mining is feasible?
<fkinglag>
yes it is different
<HackerChai>
Ya
<fkinglag>
figure out a way to make it feasible for yourself, omnibusinc ;)
<HackerChai>
pool is not like bitcoin either
<HackerChai>
I am not so sure
<omnibusinc>
I think I'll try that for a day or so. Dealing with the pool (though I'm sure it's well intentioned, and I realize it's still beta) has been very frustrating
<HackerChai>
register on a few projects
<HackerChai>
add computers
<HackerChai>
add email to config
<HackerChai>
wait for rac to go up
<HackerChai>
mag go up
<HackerChai>
profit
<HackerChai>
lol was too busy had to abandon grc for a few months
<HackerChai>
mag halved
<HackerChai>
on the way to recovery
<fkinglag>
the pool is for those who may have less than low-mid five figure sum of GRC in their wallets
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by KatBot - Katiee's GRC Magnitude/Earnings Calculator
<frank0051>
^hehe
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<HackerChai>
great
<Mumps>
But it's pretty stale now and there are better ways to do a bootable USB Linux these days.
<HackerChai>
gotta afk
<CptFlashbang>
Hey, does anybody know how many blocks I need to actually get to syncing?
<gizmodroid>
mumps: any recommendations?
<Chick3nman>
!blocks
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Requesting information from GRC Seed Nodes...
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Resource is not available: 404
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Resource is not available: 404
<gizmodroid>
looking for intel gpu support as well
<KatBot>
GridCoin.co Node: 503148
<KatBot>
Gridcoin Asia Block Explorer: 503148
<Chick3nman>
that many CptFlashbang
<gizmodroid>
can be headless
<CptFlashbang>
!blocks
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Requesting information from GRC Seed Nodes...
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Resource is not available: 404
<KatBot>
GridCoin.co Node: 503149
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Resource is not available: 404
<KatBot>
Gridcoin Asia Block Explorer: 503149
<CptFlashbang>
only 1000 more!
<Mumps>
Well, Personally I run Ubuntu. 14.04 is acceptable to boinc on and you have the benefit of being able to install current releases of the BOINC Client using the locutusofborg PPA.
<Mumps>
I've got nVidia and AMD cards running BOINC under Linux, but I don't have a system with the integrated Intel GPU's doing Linux. Can't help there.
<gizmodroid>
I'll check it out
<Mumps>
But, with the simple Ubuntu installs +drivers, running GPU's under Linux is a lot slower than under Windows.
<gizmodroid>
hmm
<gizmodroid>
poops
<Mumps>
I had a pair of 5870's running, one under Win7 the other under Linux and was getting at least twice the RAC on Windows. Don't recall the specific, but it may have been the system I was running it on as I learned a bit later...
<Mumps>
No, this is comparing the same projects, same settings (venue) on the project.
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<Chick3nman>
ahh ok
<gizmodroid>
Now I'm torn
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<Mumps>
IIRC, the PPA does have different installs it will choose based on your GPU. I also started using the PPA long after running that test
<d3v_nu11>
Mumps, what did you mean when you say Ubuntu instaslls +drivers running GPU is slower on Linux than on Windows?
<gizmodroid>
well, I suppose trialing with ubuntu is easier than making a hacky windows 7 live usb
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<Mumps>
As examples, I ran Milkyway and Einstein at different points during my tests. Linux and Windows, each with a 5870, and the RAC on the Linux box for each of those projects was significantly lower on the Linux host.
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<Mumps>
than the Windows host. :)
<Mumps>
Even with a core reserved on the Linux host, the RAC still didn't compare.
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<gizmodroid>
Well I have 2 identical machines, maybe I'll try it out
<d3v_nu11>
can I ask what GPU/drivers? I'm crunching an AMD on Linux right now. But have win7 on other partition
<d3v_nu11>
*do you mind sharing.
<Mumps>
This was a while ago, but the 5870 probably goes back to the 304.51 era of the drivers.
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
jonatj, please use /msg GRCtip withdraw as Tipbot will no longer respond to commands in channel except for !rain and !tip.
<Mumps>
A week or so ago when I was fiddling with collatz on a 270x I went and updated the driver to "AMD Vulkan Radeon Software Beta Feb25" which windows says is 15.301.1901.0 dated 2/26/2016
<Mumps>
This driver seemed to be a great update for the 270x. COllatz CPu usage was way down and as far as I could tell the run times were the same. Yesterday I updated a 7970 to the same thing, it's running off site so I can't tinker at the moment. After checking on its milkyway results I noticed run times are nearly double, if not more
<Mumps>
So, related to MilkyWay, may not mean anything on Poem...
<tristanupsha>
I always feel like driver updates have like 50% chance of causing something to go wrong
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Is it raining time? 1 GRC for 10 lucky users every 3 hours! Don't forget to tip me to keep the rain going!
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
!rain 10 10
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! [-SaRaFiNa-] rained 1 GRC on Phoenix911, leetsp33ch, Kirsanth, Tank_Master, MiXa1972, zerolint, dwatkins, Codmadnesspro_, itzapizza, alfabit! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<bitm0nkey>
!price
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Requesting information from exchanges...
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Bittrex: Last 0.00002649 | Bid 0.00002388 | Ask 0.00002654
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
C-CEX: Last 0.00002797 | Bid 0.00002335 | Ask 0.00002790
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Poloniex: Last 0.00002446 | Bid 0.00002446 | Ask 0.00002467
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Cryptopia: Last 0.00002001 | Bid 0.00002001 | Ask 0.00002800
<bitm0nkey>
this is weird timing for cryptos
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<Quedra>
good morning
<tristanupsha>
so do those numbers tell the price of GRC in other crpto currency?
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Peppernrino rained 0.2 GRC on active users xarious, Asp, p41nk1ll3r, TheLostBoy, wilmerg, jonatj, itzapizza, Katiee, YajuuSenpai, fraicheprinc, kickeefast, JimmyJim, blizer, B0iNcEr, technutz, unattached, bitm0nkey, Chick3nman, SashaTheBOLD, caraka! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
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<wilmerg>
ty Peppernrino
<Peppernrino>
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<Peppernrino>
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<g0tmk>
I went to Advanced-> Neural Network in the GUI and it locked up.. Does it normally take a couple minutes to load that window? Or should I kill the client?
<AllfatherOdhinn>
Peppernrino: I was about to ask the same thing, I have 0 active connections
<aepksbuck>
I've a question about backups. Is there any benefit to the backups made through the wallet? Or something that it does to help the restoration process? Or would it be the same if I have a cron job encrypt it with gpg and timestamp it?
<Goku11>
g0tmk the wallet is just slow to load, give it a few minutes before trying to do anything
<Randomacts>
does anyone know what the boinccmd bash command is to make it force sync with the manager?
<Randomacts>
I can't find one
<Stoatie>
to update a specific project or to sync settings?
<Randomacts>
sync settings
<aepksbuck>
Randomacts: I don't know what the command is, or if there is one. I spent a while trying to figure it out and then gave up.
<Randomacts>
aepksbuck, so I just have to wait for it to sync... 20 hours later
<jhehahnh>
!balance
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
jhehahnh, please use /msg GRCtip balance as Tipbot will no longer respond to commands in channel except for !rain and !tip.
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<aepksbuck>
Randomacts: are you running on a headless server because that could be tricky. Otherwise you can use boincmgr.
<Stoatie>
dunno about that, I would try running boinccmd with --help to see what it says, and then 'man boinccmd' if that didn't turn up anything
<Goku11>
Randomacts if you click 'Rebuild Blockchain' ----> 'Download Blocks' it will do the first 490k quickly.
<Randomacts>
aepksbuck, it isn't under help
<Randomacts>
I'll try the man pages
<Randomacts>
Goku11, .................... not what I was asking for at all
<Randomacts>
aepksbuck, ofc it is headless
<aepksbuck>
Goku11: gridcoinresearchd backupwallet <destination>; or doing the same in the gui. It says that it makes a safe copy of your wallet.
<d3v_nu11>
Randomacts: per project: --project URL operation
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<Randomacts>
d3v_nu11, doesn't have the projects yet
<Randomacts>
doing it through a manager
<d3v_nu11>
theeen, did you already do: --join_acct_mgr URL name password
<Goku11>
aepksbuck and?
<Randomacts>
d3v_nu11, yes
<aepksbuck>
Randomacts: have you tried the --lookup_account flag? I never did, I don't know what it does.... That's the only thing that looks like it might work from --help.
<Goku11>
Randomacts I guess I misunderstood the issue
<Randomacts>
aepksbuck, it isn't what I need but it is for finding your account key
<Randomacts>
Goku11, even if you slightly did you replied with GUI instructions when I said bash.. lel
<d3v_nu11>
Randomacts, not sure then. For me, when I added the account manager, all the projects attached automatically and I was then able to do update on particular projects
<Goku11>
Randomacts 2 means to the same end..
<Randomacts>
lol no
<Randomacts>
GUI != bash at all
<Randomacts>
d3v_nu11, yeah it isn't happening
<Goku11>
oh your working with boinc?
<d3v_nu11>
thats odd, something must be up with the steps prior to adding account manager?
<d3v_nu11>
to be clear bash is A shell and GUI != cmdline tool
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<Randomacts>
well I say bash because there is more then one command line language =p
<anon7mous3>
Hi all. Wondering if anyone's experience this problem I'm having. I have 4 projects I'm signed up for in BOINC. Only 2 of the 4 will download work
<Randomacts>
satskar, I just figured out a solution
<anon7mous3>
Doing WCG, Primegrid, GPUGrid, and Climateprediction
<anon7mous3>
WCG and Prime are working
<anon7mous3>
Have my workload limit set to 1 day
<Randomacts>
boinccmd --quit_acct_mgr --> readd it again ... lel it works
<Randomacts>
topeke
<aepksbuck>
anon7mous3: Have you checked the CPU/GPU/Operating system compatability of your system with those projects?
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<Andydrew23>
does anyone here play rocket league?
<Goku11>
lol
<Andydrew23>
soooo?
<d3v_nu11>
Randomacts, in order of general to specific: command line > shell > bash.
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by Peppernrino - Cryptospout's Daily Bitcoin Faucet - The easiest way to earn free Bitcoin
<Peppernrino>
that's the best i can do.
<Peppernrino>
bitcoin doesn't like me...
<Randomacts>
enjoy your ~0.23 GRC
<Peppernrino>
i have to get linux going.
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<Goku11>
aepksbuck it's not required, either way, I don't see a problem
<zukethenuke>
Hi everyone, anyone know whats up with pool.gridcoin.us/Faucet.aspx? I just installed gridcoind and I'm trying to get some starter coins.
<Peppernrino>
i think life may settle down enough to try tomorrow
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by zukethenuke - Content type: text/html
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by Peppernrino - Cryptospout's Hourly Gridcoin Faucet - The easiest way to earn free Gridcoin
<Peppernrino>
!tipzukethenuke 3
<zukethenuke>
Thanks, Pep. Got that one once already.
<Peppernrino>
!tip zukethenuke 3
<GRCtip>
Peppernrino tipped zukethenuke 3 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<knorrhane>
hi! how much is the current price for advertising the wallet beacon? I have 0,56 GRD atm and the wallet is telling me the balance is too low
<Peppernrino>
it's 0.00011
<Peppernrino>
is the grc confirmed?
<zukethenuke>
What do you get by advertising a beacon?
<zukethenuke>
Whats the point?
<Peppernrino>
it puts you in the neural network
<Peppernrino>
so you can stake on your own
<knorrhane>
oh, ok.. how do I know if the GRD are confirmed?
<Peppernrino>
hover over them
<blizer>
hi
<zukethenuke>
Pep, do I have to do anything to collect the coins you tipped?
<Peppernrino>
register your nick here wiht nickserv
<zukethenuke>
Already did
<Peppernrino>
"/msg grctip balance"
<Peppernrino>
in there say
<Peppernrino>
withdraw youraddresshere
<Peppernrino>
:D
<Peppernrino>
addnode=node.gridcoin.us
<Peppernrino>
addnode=gridcoin.asia
<Peppernrino>
addnode=sepulcher.wha.la
<Peppernrino>
addnode=typh00n.net
<Peppernrino>
addnode=grc.z9.de
<Peppernrino>
addnode=london.grcnode.co.uk
<Peppernrino>
addnode=amsterdam.grcnode.co.uk
<Peppernrino>
addnode=frankfurt.grcnode.co.uk
<Peppernrino>
addnode=nyc.grcnode.co.uk
<Peppernrino>
addnode=sf.grcnode.co.uk
<Peppernrino>
addnode=texas.grcnode.co.uk
<Peppernrino>
addnode=node1.chick3nman.com
<Peppernrino>
addnode=hk.grcnode.co.uk
<Peppernrino>
put those in your .conf file
<wilmerg>
from 16k to 0
<zukethenuke>
I have two computers running Bionic, should I run the gridcoin client on both?
<Randomacts>
I don't think so
<Randomacts>
I think it is just 1 girdcoin clinet per account needed
<knorrhane>
Peppernrino: hovering over the gridcoin balance just shows "Total balance" but Total balance is 0,56 and Unconfirmed is 0,00 so I shouldn't have any unconfirmed gridcoins should I?
<numb162>
i7 5930K 3.5GHz 6 core processor (12 threads) and an AMD r9 390. plus my little craptop on the side that doesnt do a whole lot
<Peppernrino>
nope
<Peppernrino>
it looks like you have enough
<numb162>
I have almost 66K RAC on poem
<Peppernrino>
maybe you need some more
<koull>
guys for some time now i am waiting for the wallet to sync but it is stack at 493927 of 503213 (98.15%done) for some time now.. any advice or do i just give it more time??
<Peppernrino>
!tip knorrhane 2.5
<GRCtip>
Peppernrino tipped knorrhane 2.5 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<knorrhane>
I received the first on the 22nd fomr tha asia faucet, maybe I just need to wait
<Peppernrino>
koull
<knorrhane>
Peppernrino: thanks!
<Andydrew23>
ayyyy ive got an i7 4790k and a xfx r9 390 :)
<Peppernrino>
that is a common problem people are having
<anon7mous3>
aepksbuck Seems I meet all of the requirements. Minus climateprediction, which does not list Windows10 as supported. I don't see any reason why that might be an issue thogh
<Peppernrino>
*BOINC
<Peppernrino>
Berkeley open infrastructure network computing
<Peppernrino>
not bionic
<zukethenuke>
How large of a balance is need to to continuously stake and do solo crunching?
<Andydrew23>
i think mine is a quad core 8 thread
<Andydrew23>
good question
<Peppernrino>
2.1
<Peppernrino>
it takes longer the less you have
<Peppernrino>
magnitude and grc
<Andydrew23>
i have a little craptop that is just running wuprop and gridcoin finance
<Andydrew23>
only an i3
<numb162>
same here Andydrew23!!
<Andydrew23>
hp?
<numb162>
yepp!! XD
<aepksbuck>
anon7mous3: odd. are you maxed out on those two projects? boinc will only store up so many WUs.
<Andydrew23>
touchsmart 15!?
<zukethenuke>
I've looked around gridcoin.us some, any other suggestions on sites with good basic descriptions of how all this works? I'm brand new to it.
<numb162>
my craptop has an amd E-300 APU
<Andydrew23>
gridcoin has a youtube tutorial
<numb162>
not sure what model, but its an AMD cpu in my craptop
<knorrhane>
Peppernrino: thanks again, I'll just wait for a couple of days and see if I can send the beacon then
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by Andydrew23 - How To: Gridcoin + BOINC + Windows 7 Installation (Part 1) - YouTube
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<Andydrew23>
its a 3 part tutorial
* Peppernrino
adds gridcoin finance and wuprop
<Peppernrino>
might as well
<Andydrew23>
zukethenuke feel free to check that link its very helpful
<Peppernrino>
no knorrhane, you can send it as soon as the grc is confirme
<Peppernrino>
d
<numb162>
Andydrew23: I think mine is an HP2000 laptop
* Andydrew23
just wants someone to play rocket league with. He's lonely
<Andydrew23>
numb162 damn
<numb162>
I would if I owned it andy
<numb162>
but I already used up my spendin money for this month
<numb162>
;p
<Andydrew23>
as long as my college is paying the electricity bill i will run this on as much as possible
<numb162>
same
<Andydrew23>
i wish i was still in highschool i would have put this on every computer ;)
<Andydrew23>
i hacked into the principles account and got every password in the school :)
<numb162>
XD nice!!
<anon7mous3>
aepksbuck I don't believe so. It won't download any tasks at all. Not even if I halt the other two projects
<Andydrew23>
speaking of school i hope classes get canceled. we are currently getting shit on by a blizzard. i cant see 20 feet out my window
<numb162>
holy hell! that's insane!!!
<Andydrew23>
its the got dammed snowpocolypse
<aepksbuck>
anon7mous3: How many tasks do you have for those two projects? You could try updating the setting that changes the amount of work (days' worth) it will download.
<Peppernrino>
otc]
<Peppernrino>
please keep this channel open for questions about gridcoin an dfintech and computer stuff only! :D
<Andydrew23>
doode
<Andydrew23>
sander96 knows where its at
* Andydrew23
is wondering who the fuck this Peppernrino guy is
<anon7mous3>
aepksbuck Well in my queue, I have around 20 waiting to start and 10 active
<Peppernrino>
allow that through your router and stuff
<Andydrew23>
what is RAC?
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<aepksbuck>
Andydrew23: Excellent question. It's an estimate of the work that you contribute and is meant to let the those who run the projects know how quickly work is being done.
<nepd>
Anyone up? Can't get "Account" to say "pool.gridcoin.co"... just says my BOINC name
<Andydrew23>
thanks aepksbuck
<nepd>
I've followed directions to a "t" multiple times... must be doing something wrong
<AllfatherOdhinn>
ok it just got 7 connections by itself lol
<numb162>
what is considered a good magnitude to have?
<aepksbuck>
numb162: When you start solo mining it's going to reset to zero anyway. Your magnitude will depend on your hardware and the project(s) to which you're contributing.
<numb162>
ahhh ok
<mechman>
What is the significance of number of active connections? How will having 10 gridcoin connections differ from having say..20?
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
zukethenuke, please use /msg GRCtip withdraw as Tipbot will no longer respond to commands in channel except for !rain and !tip.
<gizmodroid>
"So I've been having issues with certain projects, but today it resolved. I did 2 things which I'm not sure is what made it start working, or if Katiee did something server side: 1. I added a second host to my account. 2. On the original host I was having issues with, I tried sync with boinccmd instead of the GUI."
<x4127>
what is the minimum grc you need to start staking atm?
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<numb162>
hmmm anyone got tips on trading GRC?
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<Goku11>
numb162 buy and hold
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<Ashquith>
morning
<numb162>
XD
<numb162>
I'm gonna try my hand at trading while I'm still in the pool
<numb162>
that way it doesnt effect my staking
<ltkeklulz>
Finally got my pi up and running. Goodnight everyone
<Goku11>
x4127 I think it's less than 1 GRC, you just need a mature coin, which takes about 16 hours
<x4127>
oh sweet
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<x4127>
time to solomine lmao
<Goku11>
x4127 it's better to pool unless you have a beast of a machine, and quite a bit of GRC
<x4127>
is it\
<x4127>
if i jave like an 800 dollar computer
<x4127>
is pool better?
<Goku11>
x4127 you will have a really low chance to stake, pool is higher chances
<x4127>
even if its running 24/7?
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<Goku11>
x4127 yeah unless you have a lot of GRC
<x4127>
how much is alot
<x4127>
a lot*
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Is it raining time? 1 GRC for 10 lucky users every 3 hours! Don't forget to tip me to keep the rain going!
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
!rain 10 10
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! [-SaRaFiNa-] rained 1 GRC on Payne2109, betaboot, xms, Quedra, Cartoonman_, coinictus, mrarturas, ahmed_, Smiley, noidle! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<Cartoonman_>
cool
<x4127>
?
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<Goku11>
x4127 if you have to ask, you don't have enough
<x4127>
lol
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<Goku11>
lol
<x4127>
i just want to know the benchmark
<x4127>
are you solomining?
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<Goku11>
it comes down to how much GRC you ahve in comparison to the total, which is going to be super low
<x4127>
oh
<Goku11>
I'm in the pool, and I have a few year old alienware
<x4127>
are cpu only projects profitable?
<Goku11>
I might solo once I get a decent amount of GRC, but probably not
<Goku11>
I'm not really sure, I haven't claimed a stake yet lol, just got myself setup
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<x4127>
did you start after the reddit explosion?
<Goku11>
I actually found out about it aside from reddit, but I was too late for the first boom >.>
<Goku11>
just had a huge green candlestick on Poloniex tho, looking pretty good
<Goku11>
I'm going to be dumping money into GRC every paycheck, and mine my face off too, I think it has huge gains in its future
<Goku11>
But, time for sleep, goodnight all
<x4127>
same
<shawnthesheep>
That's a little optimistic, don't you think?
<x4127>
eh
<Goku11>
How so? People said the same thing about BTC lol
<x4127>
i kind of want to make a cluster from raspberry pi's
<shawnthesheep>
I don't think GRC will be profitable at any point
<Goku11>
then why are you here?
<Goku11>
lol
<shawnthesheep>
I think it is just a nice way to incentivise people to crunch for boinc :)
<x4127>
yeah
<x4127>
i like the idea of actually doing something
<Goku11>
which is a sounds business model..
<Goku11>
sound*
<x4127>
rather than just pointlessly mining
<shawnthesheep>
I am a humble scientist myself, and these kind of citizen contribution to science really excited me
<Goku11>
elastic is going to be doing something similar, check it out before it launches
<Goku11>
less science though, and more business oriented
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by jahjah - Content type: image/png
<newToGRC>
society depends on a fulcrum of highly specialized and skilled individuals
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<newToGRC>
it still amazes me that we've designed little wafers that move electrons around in order to solve difficult mathematical problems and questions
<tarantlus>
hi question
<tarantlus>
in an FAQ somewhere I read the pool pays out every 3 days
<newToGRC>
3 or 4 days
<newToGRC>
as far as I understand it
<tarantlus>
im on my 4th day but only have coins showing up on my wallet from faucets only
<tarantlus>
ohh ok
<tarantlus>
hm. maybe i'll get something today
<newToGRC>
last payout was this morning today
<newToGRC>
so if you didn't get it today something went wrong :/
<newToGRC>
you are using pool.gridcoin.co right?
<newToGRC>
if you are, log in and check your mag in the pool
<tarantlus>
i believe so, which is why my CPID says investor
<newToGRC>
that doesn't matter
<newToGRC>
check your mag in the pool on your pool.gridcoin.co profile
<newToGRC>
should be > 0
<newToGRC>
if = 0 then that's the problem
<tarantlus>
its 0
<tarantlus>
hosts are there (PC connected)
<newToGRC>
then you haven't been mining for the pool
<tarantlus>
well so bitch
<newToGRC>
you've probably been mining for your own account
<tarantlus>
n of a *
<newToGRC>
:(
<tarantlus>
wait wtf
<tarantlus>
it just changed
<tarantlus>
to 0.2
<newToGRC>
:O
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<tarantlus>
current magnitude unit: 0.2
<newToGRC>
then it seems the system finally caught up!
<newToGRC>
!!
<tarantlus>
but
<tarantlus>
do you have entries under ID | Hostname
<newToGRC>
I don't understand what you're asking
<tarantlus>
On the page after login, I have numbers for Stats: BTC:, GRC:, Current Magnitude Unit
<newToGRC>
didyou go to profile?
<Cursed>
Keep in mind that Current Magnitude Unit is distict from Magnitude
<IrcTg_Bot>
<spassbold>: also did you give the pool your gridcoin address?
<newToGRC>
"Mag in project"
<IrcTg_Bot>
<spassbold>: a lot of people did not appearetnly
<newToGRC>
ah that would explain a lot too
<IrcTg_Bot>
<spassbold>: ypu need to put in your address to be able to earn something
<newToGRC>
it's on the profile page, the box wher eyou put your address
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by cyberkev1 - Content type:
<tarantlus>
it doesn't change anything on my BOINC which still says account: (something else not pool.gridcoin.co)
<tarantlus>
so i went on the citizen grid website
<tarantlus>
logged in and changed my account name (its possible on here) to pool.gridcoin.co
<tarantlus>
do you run your CPU 24/7?
<newToGRC>
I run it maybe 50% of the time
<newToGRC>
what I mean is that I run BOINC 50% of the time
<cyberkev1>
I run 90% of my machines all the time.
<newToGRC>
but I only run my CPUs at 30% of the time I run boinc
<newToGRC>
because I want my CPUs to live long, healthy lives
<newToGRC>
and have CPU babies
<cyberkev1>
constant spinning up of fans/drives/ heating of chipsets cpu's gpu then cooling then re heating/spinning up is what kills electronics. More reliable in the long term to leave it on permanantly
<newToGRC>
fff
<newToGRC>
wow did not know that
<cyberkev1>
most hard drives fail on startup
<newToGRC>
well here's the problem
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<newToGRC>
it takes only 0.5 seconds and my cpu goes from 40c to 65c
<tarantlus>
what cpu do you have
<newToGRC>
and I'm sure my cpu is not supposed to be sitting at 65c active
<newToGRC>
i7 4770k
<cyberkev1>
sounds like the heatsink isnt completely flat on the cpu
<tarantlus>
yeah what the hell lol
<tarantlus>
i have AMD XM 8 core
<tarantlus>
black edition
<cyberkev1>
or the heatsink compound is old and needs re-doing
<tarantlus>
and its not that hot
<newToGRC>
yeah I might need to redo my heatsink
<newToGRC>
new weekend project... woohoo...
<tarantlus>
thx for the help
<cyberkev1>
very very think layer
<cyberkev1>
oops thin
<cyberkev1>
sorry
<tarantlus>
i changed it on the individual acct websites
<newToGRC>
ok right now cpus are idle and sitting at 40c
<newToGRC>
is this good?
<tarantlus>
but i'll have to see if it works
<cyberkev1>
very thin layer
<cyberkev1>
just enough to fill in the minute imperfections in the flatness of the cpu and heatsink
<newToGRC>
GL and happy mining tarantlus
<cyberkev1>
and make sure it's completely flat. witl i5s and i7's i normally take the motherboard out and check looking across the cpu that its seated down properly on all sides
<tarantlus>
this is a dumb question
<tarantlus>
is 1 cobblestone 1 gridcoin
<cyberkev1>
its very easy for one of those crap plastic pins to not clip down completely
<newToGRC>
yes def sounds like a weekend project
<newToGRC>
vlad (my pc) has been needing a doctor's checkup lately anyway :)
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<cyberkev1>
i had one that when clipped down overheated straight away, when i didnt clip any of the clips down it stayed cool
<cyberkev1>
must have been a wonky heatsink
<newToGRC>
... wow that's strange
<cyberkev1>
or the plastic surround
<Tahvok>
Morning!
<Jonbvn>
tarantus - no not at all. GRC is based on your mag which in turn is based on your RAC relative to the rest of the team running that project
<tarantlus>
oh ok thx
<Jonbvn>
RAC = recent average credit
<tarantlus>
how much GRC are you guys mining on average / week?
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Is it raining time? 1 GRC for 10 lucky users every 3 hours! Don't forget to tip me to keep the rain going!
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
!rain 10 10
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! [-SaRaFiNa-] rained 1 GRC on ENLAB, k0r3, Phoenix911, xarious, IrcTg_Bot, jordam, DNF, mangadave, fdisc, Nycti! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<newToGRC>
cyberkev1 is there a way to test to see if old vlad will need upgrades? I self-assembled him but I want to be able to keep track of the relative "health" of his parts as time goes on
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<newToGRC>
I put him together about 4 years ago
<KatBot>
Pool's Current Balance is @ 383.057266877 GRC
<KatBot>
Requesting GridCoin.co Pool balance..
<KatBot>
Pool's Current Balance is @ 383.057266877 GRC
<tarantlus>
mind if i ask how much GRC you guys generate / week or day?
<newToGRC>
I generated 2 grc/day righ tnow
<tarantlus>
man thats on an i7
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<Montec>
Thinking of hooking my raspberry pi 2 model B for computing
<tarantlus>
how much GRCs would raspberry pis generate
<tarantlus>
aren't they terribly weak compared to average PCs
<tarantlus>
( i don't know im new)
<Montec>
They are, however they are also very energy efficient
<tarantlus>
ohh so virtually free mining
<Montec>
yeah
<SchietSchijf>
13 a day + 20 a day from the pool
<Montec>
almost
<tarantlus>
damn schiet - what do you have hooked up
<newToGRC>
mfw raspberry pis generate 10x my i7
<tarantlus>
how? aren't they way slower than your i7
<newToGRC>
idk
<Montec>
He probably has configured something wrong
<Cursed>
I'm not doing it for fun. I'm using my computer as a space heater. Without it, I would certainly freeze to death
<newToGRC>
^
<tarantlus>
i guess the idea is some people can't afford to run their comps all the time to help with projects
<SchietSchijf>
prices for electricity in Belgium are higher than GRC will ever be able to cover
<Montec>
what are the prices?
<newToGRC>
1000 euros per watt
<tarantlus>
theres an article that someone bought 27$ of bitcoin in 2009 and forgot about it, worth >800000 now
<SchietSchijf>
about 800€ per year
<SchietSchijf>
of which 75% are taxes
<Montec>
per kilowatt
<tarantlus>
that sucks during the winter eh
<tarantlus>
theres a dude somewhere who has a setup that goes from solar panels --> 3x computer batteries --> computers generating gridcoin
<tarantlus>
off the grid mining lol
<newToGRC>
holy shit
<newToGRC>
that's epic
<Montec>
It would be more profitable to just sell the electricity
<newToGRC>
but Montec, it's all about helping science!
<newToGRC>
otherwise why run boinc?
<Montec>
true
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<SchietSchijf>
price per kilowatt is 0.0393€
<tarantlus>
im hoping GRC rises in price lol
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<Cursed>
I'm banking on currency markets staying fundamentally volatile and pointless to even begin to try understanding. Luckily I bought in before the camel trail
<SchietSchijf>
but that is only 25% of the cost
<Mxmlln>
Morning all
<Montec>
Mornin' Mxmlln
<SchietSchijf>
total cost 0.2669€ per kilowatt
<SchietSchijf>
morning Mxmlln
<Montec>
Holy shit
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<Montec>
for me its 0.1 euro per killowatt
<Mxmlln>
How is everyone, its a Friday.... basically
<Mxmlln>
hah
<captainolm>
good morning Mxmlln
<tarantlus>
everyone, if i am in the pool, but did not have my account set to pool.gridcoin.co, but everything else was good, and i changed it now, will my coins forward to my acct?
<captainolm>
yeah! cant wait for some days off
<tarantlus>
my address, and everything else for setup was good
<tarantlus>
including connection
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<RaymondTracer>
Is there any explanation to what this error means?:
<RaymondTracer>
Boinc is not installed in default location c:\documents and settings\all users\application data\boinc\! Please set boincdatadir=c:\programdata\boinc\ to the correct path where Boincs programdata directory resides.
<Montec>
uninstall boinc and reinstall corectly
<tarantlus>
means you didn't install your BOINC where it wants it to be
<tarantlus>
did you install in a diff area
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<RaymondTracer>
Yes
<Mxmlln>
tarantlus I dont think it will do that
<tarantlus>
ok here
<Mxmlln>
with your grc
<tarantlus>
god dammit
<captainolm>
tarantlus: yes your grc should go to your wallet if I understood you correctly :)
<mangadave>
search for gridcoins.conf and insert the lines
<RaymondTracer>
Why cant I install it where I want?
<tarantlus>
ok great ^
<tarantlus>
here you can
<tarantlus>
but u have to tell it
<tarantlus>
so go to
<tarantlus>
users / app data / gridcoinresearch
<Montec>
RaymonTracer because youll get errors
<Mxmlln>
oh I misunderstood you tarantlus
<tarantlus>
theres a file in that folder called gridcoinresearch.conf
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
tomkun, please use /msg GRCtip balance as Tipbot will no longer respond to commands in channel except for !rain and !tip.
<Mxmlln>
Hi tomjun
<Mxmlln>
tomkun*
<tomkun>
hi
<tomkun>
@mxmlln do you solo mine
<tomkun>
i have questions on when ill receive my first GRC from BOINC
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<TedFx>
Anyone in here who can help me with the setup on a Mac OS for running the BOINC client and the associated wallet? It seems I'm only finding outdated guides...?
<Sander96_XPS13>
Could've just put it in your wallet
<Sander96_XPS13>
:D
<sn0wmonster>
But gridcoins aren't meant to be held
<sn0wmonster>
They must be moved or they lose their charge
<Randomacts>
lel
<sn0wmonster>
And then the whole grid would die
<sn0wmonster>
and my lightcycle would stop working then
<fkinglag>
lol
<Randomacts>
So I have some dual core servers I am trying to think what to put on them
<tristanupsha>
We like to throw virtual coins around for SCIENCE
<Randomacts>
just yafu + freebies?
<Randomacts>
Actually I could do Dennis@home
<Randomacts>
the fuck is denis@home
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<Mxmlln>
Randomacts its out of work
<Mxmlln>
so unlucky ;)
<sn0wmonster>
I want to start my own @home
<Randomacts>
Mxmlln, denis is broken atm?
<sn0wmonster>
it can be masturbatethemonkey@home
<Mxmlln>
no its just ran out of work to give people
<tristanupsha>
I wish whenever someone rained, an animation of a person throwing coins at a crowd of people showed
<Randomacts>
Randomacts@Home : You render 100k hentai frames for me
<Randomacts>
for science
<sn0wmonster>
and your CPU hashes to control a mechanical arm that jacks off a chimp
<Randomacts>
LOL
<Randomacts>
tristanupsha, you know how hard that would be with ACII?
<Randomacts>
this is old school shit IRC =p
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<sn0wmonster>
ASCII?
<Mxmlln>
I think you can embed pictures and gifs in Kiwii
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<tristanupsha>
well time to add some extensions then
<Randomacts>
Mxmlln, should I throw it on there anyways
<Randomacts>
but then I would have two CPU projects
<Randomacts>
hmm
<Randomacts>
I'll just do yafu I think
<Sander96_XPS13>
yes
<Randomacts>
yes to what?
<fkinglag>
yes
<Sander96_XPS13>
yes to only yafu
<Randomacts>
k
<moisesm123>
hey everyone, can someone tell me what is the best project for a raspberry pi? I´m running Enigma@Home in my Pi 3. It is taking between 4 to 6 hours per workunit, sometimes more. In my Pi 1 it takes 6 hours per workunit
<sn0wmonster>
_( )_ _
<sn0wmonster>
_( GC )__( )_
<sn0wmonster>
(_________) _( GC )_
<sn0wmonster>
\ \ \ (_________)
<sn0wmonster>
\ \ \ \ \
<sn0wmonster>
\ \
<Sander96_XPS13>
lol
<Sander96_XPS13>
moisesm123 Idk, enigma sounds good
<sn0wmonster>
moisesm123, run a Tor exit node. Why isn't there a coin for that?
<sn0wmonster>
TorCoin.
<Randomacts>
that would be dope
<moisesm123>
well can it be that Enigma is compiled for ARMv6 instead of ARMv7? Because on my Android HTC EVO 3D it takes 2 hours per workunit
<fkinglag>
I think OnionCoin is out there
<fkinglag>
I thought there was a TorCoin
<Randomacts>
moisesm123, is that even enough to get any profit from it? lol
<Randomacts>
I should prob set my pi up for it then..
<SchietSchijf>
!tip sn0wmonster 1 for the rain
<GRCtip>
SchietSchijf tipped sn0wmonster 1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<fkinglag>
I think GRC wallet is gonna need a redesign soon
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<fkinglag>
I remember like a year ago there was chat of just changing the logo because the wallet behind it looked iffy/bad
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<seripanji>
good evening from SE Asia
<fkinglag>
good day to you seripanji
<fkinglag>
from the darkness of Midwest USA
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<seripanji>
I have question, is DPOR weight reduce regularly if no new coin comes into my wallet?
<LazerFazer>
Good afternoon from sunny South Africa
<LazerFazer>
DPOR Weight -
<LazerFazer>
As you hold more GRC for more time your DPOR weight increases, this improves your chance of staking a block. What tends to happen is you store up a load of DPOR weight, then get a burst of payments, so your weight drops and it dries up.
<seripanji>
I think I don't get that "burst" of payment.
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<Gizmo>
mornin ya'll
<Gizmo>
how do we get vendors to begin accepting gridcoin as payment? I think that would help boost the price!
<Randomacts>
hmm is there no more work left for YAFU?
<Randomacts>
(is there a way to check for that)
<fkinglag>
I suppose just to press awareness of Gridcoin and also getting in contact with vendors
<fkinglag>
Gizmo
<Gizmo>
word up
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<Gizmo>
ah i just read your comment
<fkinglag>
ye
<Gizmo>
the main question i have before beginning research on that is, is gridcoin tied into the transaction system for bitcoin? I know vendors have started refusing payments in BTC becuse it can take the upwards of 45m for a transaction to process
<Randomacts>
Gizmo, when ever I have had gridcoin sent to me it has been basically instant
<sn0wmonster>
shoulda used Dogecoin
<Gizmo>
well i know its quick for us
<fkinglag>
there is no direct system tied to bitcoin from gridcoin blockchain
<Gizmo>
i'm just wondering if thought is being put into the fact that when transactions begin being processed at higher rates if we will experience the same transaction slowdown
<fkinglag>
still have to go to an exchange or find somebody who will sell bitcoin
<Mxmlln>
Randomacts you can check if a project has work by simply going to the Project Status page on the projects website and it will say "tasks ready to send" and a number
<Mxmlln>
that is the work units
<Randomacts>
ah.. so it is just being slow
<Randomacts>
it is 398 atm
<sn0wmonster>
I'll give my impression of me waiting for my coins to confirm
<sn0wmonster>
/______\ /______\
<sn0wmonster>
(~ o ~) (~ o ~)
<sn0wmonster>
\ '-=-'/ \'-=-' /
<sn0wmonster>
'.__.' '.__.'
<fkinglag>
soon
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<WyerByter>
!block
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Requesting information from GRC Seed Nodes...
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by KatBot - Katiee's GRC Magnitude/Earnings Calculator
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<Randomacts>
moisesm123, not running any YAFU?
<moisesm123>
yp my mag dances between 110 to 120 but it´s no real issue
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<moisesm123>
YAFU?
<moisesm123>
whatś that
<Randomacts>
yafu@home
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<moisesm123>
is it non-cpu intensive?
<Randomacts>
how would you check?
<moisesm123>
nope I don´t think so
<moisesm123>
just checked the app page
<Randomacts>
ah
<moisesm123>
it says mt so it´s multithreaded actually
<Randomacts>
yeah
<moisesm123>
I´ll stick with WCG in my machines
<moisesm123>
21.39 mag from that project
<Randomacts>
world community grid
<Randomacts>
is pretty good for stuff then?
<moisesm123>
yeah but remember I have lots of Windows machines running it
<Randomacts>
true
<moisesm123>
and android devices
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Is it raining time? 1 GRC for 10 lucky users every 3 hours! Don't forget to tip me to keep the rain going!
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
!rain 10 10
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! [-SaRaFiNa-] rained 1 GRC on dc7d, John-123, BLUNTy, Prints, Smiley, whatiwonder, tr0nic_, cell, DingoDavid, LonelyFox! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<Randomacts>
moisesm123, I assume for android you just put one project on it
<moisesm123>
WCG and WUPro
<moisesm123>
WCG and WUProp
<Randomacts>
WUProp has an android app?
<Randomacts>
erm
<Mxmlln>
YAFU is also invite only guys
<moisesm123>
yes
<Randomacts>
Mxmlln, the password is on the project page
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<moisesm123>
BTW World Community Grid just laucnhed a new app which means time to get medals!!!!
<RTW93>
hey guys
<Randomacts>
spoiler: it is yafu
<moisesm123>
<moisesm123>
Help Stop TB is the new project
<Mxmlln>
Ah haha
<Mxmlln>
you can run multiple projects, including Gridcoin Finance and WUProp on android BOINC app but you need to use an accountmanager
<moisesm123>
Gridcoin Finance doesn´t run on Android o.O
<moisesm123>
or it does?
<Mxmlln>
I dunno tbh
<xarious>
Hey Guys
<moisesm123>
it only has a Windows app
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<moisesm123>
fr both x86 and x86-64
<moisesm123>
would be good if Gridcoin Finance had a linux app
<Randomacts>
I'm running it on linux?
<moisesm123>
?
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<Randomacts>
am I some kind of wizzard?
<Mxmlln>
You're a wizzard harry
<moisesm123>
no Gridcoin Finance is different from the Gridcoin Wallet
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<moisesm123>
Gridcon Finance is a BOINC project
<Mxmlln>
^ yea
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<Randomacts>
Gridcoin Finance is what I'm talking about.. and it doesn't show linux support
<moisesm123>
exactly
<Randomacts>
pretty sure it is running..
<Randomacts>
let me check
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<Jonbvn>
Wonder if it is another P&D? Did very well out of the one last weekend
<fkinglag>
lol
<fkinglag>
maybe people are selling for the weekend in anticipation
<Sander96>
Last time wasn't really a P&D
<fkinglag>
most of the volume is coming from Polo atm
<Sander96>
it was just a lot of hype
<Sander96>
and after a lot of hype
<Sander96>
it falls
<fkinglag>
yes, exposure/hype
<fkinglag>
just because the people who want it drive up demand temporarily
<fkinglag>
and now they have their coins :)
<Sander96>
I wish I was there when it was like 0.00005
<fkinglag>
if it was P&D we would be down by like 1000 SAT :(
<Randomacts>
so what is the better client for android boinc or nativeboinc?
<fkinglag>
honestly
<Jonbvn>
But last weekend we were at 9k SAT!
<fkinglag>
the price and volume really shows healthy coin activity, IMO
<Jonbvn>
true volume today is good
<getdown4real>
Guys, it was not a P&D the other day, GRC finally got a lot of exposure on the /futurology page and it would have kept going up except the admins took it down because they have a conflict of interest
<Randomacts>
yeah
<getdown4real>
the jump in price the other day is just a taste of what will happen when GRC finally gets real exposure, just imagine where it will go when it actually gets marketed
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<adotout1>
hey
<adotout1>
i got my magnitude up to
<adotout1>
lemme check
<adotout1>
3.91
<jahjah>
@katiee, if I pool until my mag reaches 20 then solo for a few days to return to solo
<fkinglag>
woo
<jahjah>
would i still be getting payouts from the pool
<fkinglag>
!tip jahjah 1
<jahjah>
return to pool*
<GRCtip>
fkinglag tipped jahjah 1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<gizmodroid>
!help
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
gizmodroid, sending commands via PM.
<jahjah>
fkinglag thanks <3
<fkinglag>
!rainactive 4 20
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! fkinglag rained 0.2 GRC on active users maokoto, technutz, coinictus, Katiee, philwire, jahjah, Mxmlln, B0iNcEr, Sander96, Gary760, Kutowi, xXUnRealXx, bob21, omnibusinc, brewsmithy, uberg33k, YajuuSenpai, _47an, RaymondTracer, getdown4real! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<jahjah>
thanks again <3
<adotout1>
woooo
<Katiee>
as long as u have mag on the pool u will keep getting payments
<adotout1>
thanks
<omnibusinc>
rad
<Katiee>
mag decays slowly, so yea
<maokoto>
ty
<adotout1>
im not among those people afaik but still thanks
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<adotout1>
what's so special about 20?
<Katiee>
4 20
<Katiee>
blaze it
<adotout1>
or is it just a big number you picked outta nowhere
<adotout1>
oh you xD
<adotout1>
!rain 4 20
<GRCtip>
Sorry adotout1, you don't have enough funds (you're 4 GRC short).
<jrlax>
BLAZE IT AND PRAISE IT
<adotout1>
blaze it
<Katiee>
just finished Star Wars :D
<Katiee>
sooo good
<adotout1>
so katiee
<Katiee>
so glad they didn't fuck it up
<fkinglag>
\o/
<fkinglag>
me too
<adotout1>
if i have a grc/day of 0.7
<adotout1>
does that accumulate until the payout
<Katiee>
its just an estimate, but yes, basically
<adotout1>
good
<adotout1>
:)
<Katiee>
I keep track of everyone mags
<Katiee>
then when the pool's wallet has funds to pay out
<Katiee>
I calculate precents of everyone mags, vs the total mag of the pool
<Katiee>
then you get that percent of the GRC
<adotout1>
cool
<Katiee>
however the pool keeps track of mags faster then the Gridcoin network
<adotout1>
hopefully once i've gotten my mag up enough i can start getting slightly decent amounts of grc
<Katiee>
so the pool's mag is actually ahead of what Gridcoin tracks
<adotout1>
at least compared to what i get now
<adotout1>
its very quiet
<Mxmlln>
Katiee please say that isn't a manual task
<Mxmlln>
you've written something to do that for you right?
<adotout1>
nahhhhhh
<adotout1>
i hope so [nervous]
<Katiee>
of course lol the pool is completely automatic
<Mxmlln>
^^
<Katiee>
would be impossible to manually do all that
<Mxmlln>
just the way you explained it then
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<Mxmlln>
I was like 0_o
<Katiee>
I still press a button to do a payment, but thats it
<Katiee>
soon that will be pressed for me lol
<adotout1>
ok
<Mxmlln>
haha
<SchietSchijf>
I'm curious about the implementation of the pool
<adotout1>
i think i understand pretty good now :)
<SchietSchijf>
source code wise
<adotout1>
database majik
<SchietSchijf>
yes, and api (mis)usage
<jahjah>
sander96 i might set up all 3 trials tonight, https://cloud.google.com/free-trial/?hl=en_US, after 60 days even after the trial is over you're not billed unless you decide to further your account with them
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by jahjah - START YOUR 60 DAY FREE TRIAL — Google Cloud Platform
<jahjah>
60 days of pure crunching
<Katiee>
php with mysql, some javascript
<adotout1>
dannngggggggggggggggggggggg
<Sander96>
jahjah All require creditcard and such though, that was my problem
<adotout1>
ooo baby
<adotout1>
oh
<adotout1>
nvm
<jahjah>
do you not have one?
<adotout1>
nope
<adotout1>
:/
<Sander96>
Nope jahjah
<jahjah>
:(
<Sander96>
That's why I'm DigitalOcean
<Sander96>
Got $50 from uni
<Bouowmx>
Does Digital Ocean credit expire?
<adotout1>
i really wish i had 2 monitors
<jahjah>
Ahh I see, makes sense now
<adotout1>
it would REALLY help in programming
<adotout1>
or just 1 ultrawide
<jahjah>
bouowmx, you can get a promo code online for ~£10 iirc
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<Bouowmx>
I already have about 100 USD credit
<jahjah>
which will run 2 droplets for 1 month or 1 droplet for 2 months
<jahjah>
oh
<jahjah>
well
<Sander96>
depends on the droplet size
<Sander96>
I am doing 3x 5$ ones
<Peppernrino>
!google vultr
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
google SSD VPS Servers, Cloud Servers and Cloud Hosting by Vultr - Vultr ... https://www.vultr.com/
<Bouowmx>
The peasant-spec says "1-core processor"
<adotout1>
ughhhh
<adotout1>
that makes me uncomfortable just thinking about that
<adotout1>
like
<Peppernrino>
<[-SaRaFiNa-]> Start your own Gridcoin website/node and let the world know why we Gridcoin! Free credits for SSD VPS - http://cur.lv/si4uk
<adotout1>
where could they possibly get a 1 core
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by Peppernrino - CoinURL - Redirect
<Peppernrino>
i have a single core
<Bouowmx>
Probably virtualization with a Xeon processor
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by Chick3nman - What browser am I using? Is my browser up to date? Web browser detection, Javascript, Cookies, Flash and Operating System detection : What Is My Browser
<Peppernrino>
chick3nman. that site tells me nothing. :D
<Sander96>
how on earth would it know your host cpid
<_47an>
Did you get the old wallet to new pc? whatiwonder
<Katiee>
Gridcoin does not track Host CPIDs
<Katiee>
gridcoin doesnt track hosts AT ALL
<Katiee>
just BOINC accounts
<Katiee>
when using the pool, you are logged onto the pool's BOINC account, not your own
<omnibusinc>
Gizmodroid posted on the CCT forum that running the boinccmd command with the --join_acct_mgr flag and passing username (email?) and password, resolved his syncing issues. I just tried that and got this input:
<omnibusinc>
poll status: operation in progress
<omnibusinc>
poll status: operation in progress
<omnibusinc>
poll status: unexpected XML tag or syntax
<omnibusinc>
has anyone else gotten this?
<omnibusinc>
I tried running the command while BOINC was running and connected to the pool
<Sander96>
I got the first two but not the last line
<goboinc>
Hi, I'm new to grid coin (and also IRC) so I'm asking if there are any suggestion you can give me to start my wallet from the ground and also what are the rules for this chat, thanks to all!
<Chick3nman>
that brand new i7 5960X i got yesterday? 100% load, 75C all night
<whatiwonder>
okay, so when was the last pool payout?
<_47an>
goboinc Plese read at Gridcoin.us. Tell us if you got any problem
<Katiee>
rules, dont be a dick, whenever there is heavy Gridcoin/Support chat going on, take any off topic chat to #gridcoin-otc
<Chick3nman>
^
<omnibusinc>
I'm entering my correct email and password for the pool though...
<Katiee>
do you have special symbols in your password?
<Katiee>
then BOINC is not setup correctly on your other PC
<SchietSchijf>
the pool has some increase in CSG, more than double the RAC in two days :o
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<omnibusinc>
Also, when I sync using the client, I'm still getting a number of instances where it's failing to add a project to the pool's database. Is that issue still outstanding?
<Katiee>
im leaning towards that being an issue with the current BOINC client version
<Katiee>
but im not sure yet
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<omnibusinc>
What I've been seeing with that issue is this: If I disconnect from the account manager in the client, remove all my projects, close and reopen the client, and then re-attach the account manager, I don't get the syncing error. Any subsequent attempts to sync the account manager however, result in that error for a number of projects
<Sander96>
How do you sync the manager with a command?
<Katiee>
well you should never get an error that say "Add to the database" after its already been added
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by omnibusinc - failed to add - Pastebin.com
<whatiwonder>
When i try to sync one of my computers to the pool, i get "Failed to add a project to the pool's database. please report to Katiee on Grodcoin IRC"
<Sander96>
When I do --lookup_account http://pool.gridcoin.co email password it first gives operation in progress and then permanent HTTP error
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by Sander96 - GridCoin.co Pool (beta)
<Andydrew23>
ive got the same thing happening
<Katiee>
lookup_account does not work Sander96
<Katiee>
I never coded anything for that
<wolfypup>
some of the projects are linked to old ht addresses
<Sander96>
ok ok
<wolfypup>
in that pastebin
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<Katiee>
ht addresses?
<wolfypup>
web addresses (hypertext links)
<omnibusinc>
@Katiee I just disconnected from the acct manager in the client, and removed all my projects. Closed and reopened the client, and I used the CLI to connect to the pool, and here is the error-free acct_mgr_reply.xml that I got as a result of that: http://pastebin.com/VbrB9LH0
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by omnibusinc - fresh connect - Pastebin.com
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<omnibusinc>
the issue only appears to be happening when a user tries to sync with the pool.
<Katiee>
how did u manage to get ur password working omnibusinc
<omnibusinc>
The initial connection goes through fine
<Katiee>
just for future reference
<omnibusinc>
actually, I didn't do anything differently
<graalcloud>
this guy harassed me for like 5 hours straight yesterday
<Sander96>
Really? That's how you're going to start?
<Sander96>
Jesus fucking christ
<Andydrew23>
i cant get my laptop to sync
<graalcloud>
sander96 helped
<omnibusinc>
damn, graacloud came in swinging...
<graalcloud>
they hazed me
<graalcloud>
group hazing
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<Sander96>
I'm going to stay here for 4 more minutes
<Sander96>
either he shuts up, or he gets banned
<Andydrew23>
customminer is a good dude
<Sander96>
or I leave cause fuck this
<Katiee>
graalcloud you are right, I wasn't here for everything that went on. But can't you just put it behind you?
<Sander96>
Andydrew23: I'll PM you
<graalcloud>
not that easily no not really
<Andydrew23>
thanks sander96
<_47an>
graalcloud: Gridcoin comment only here
<graalcloud>
i'm extremely offended by what transcribed
<Sander96>
shut the fuck up graalcloud
<omnibusinc>
are you an adult?
<Sander96>
just shut up
<graalcloud>
^
<Katiee>
then take it to OTC, not the main chat
<Andydrew23>
im just going to /ignore graalcloud
<spassbold>
graacloud this is for otc not here
<spassbold>
and behave yourself
<graalcloud>
fuck you
<Sander96>
and be a normal human being
<Sander96>
thanks
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<Katiee>
I have no problem with you voicing your concerns, but don't do it here when we are talking Gridcoin support
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<omnibusinc>
lulz, that feel when an adult thinks that they have a right not to be offended on the internet
<Sander96>
Andydrew23: PMéd you
<Andydrew23>
morning entertainment
<Sander96>
oh he left
<Sander96>
WE can do it here now
<Sander96>
So your wallet is not syncing?
<Sander96>
oh the pool
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Is it raining time? 1 GRC for 10 lucky users every 3 hours! Don't forget to tip me to keep the rain going!
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
!rain 10 10
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! [-SaRaFiNa-] rained 1 GRC on Eskorbuto, GRCtip, unattached, yepla, p41nk1ll3r, xXUnRealXx, milkeater, Sander96, RTW93, Nargren! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<Sander96>
yay
<RTW93>
wuhu sara honny
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<Andydrew23>
my host (laptop) is listed under my profile and i attached the projects. but when i use the manager sync on boinc is fails to add projects
<Peppernrino>
*transpired.
<Sander96>
Andydrew23: What does it say in the event log?
<gizmodroid>
Andydrew23: did you try the boinccmd command I gave you earlier
<Andydrew23>
one moment
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<Andydrew23>
was that last night? if so, no, i got frusterated and went to bed
<itzapizza>
omnibusinc has your wallet ever said it synced successfully?
<omnibusinc>
yes
<omnibusinc>
the wallet is separate from the BOINC client/pool connection though
<omnibusinc>
as I understand it, the wallet is completely unrelated to the syncing issue
<gizmodroid>
I get the the XML error if I put in the wrong email or password.
<itzapizza>
oic I thought you were having a wallet sync issue
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<omnibusinc>
np
<gizmodroid>
I was having the same issue as omnibusinc until last night
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<gizmodroid>
Last night I added a second host and learned about boinccmd. One of those 2 things solved the resync with pool issue
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<itzapizza>
question for anyone: other than entering your email, is there anything you have to do to get your wallet to collect your earned gridcoins?
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<Katiee>
the xml error from BOINC is just a genertic error message, it actually has nothing to do with the XML syntax usually lol
<Katiee>
just another thing the BOINC devs have slacked on :P
<Andydrew23>
when i try to double click or run boinccmd it just dissappears right away
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<gizmodroid>
Andydrew23: you have to run it from the command line, remember?
<Andydrew23>
that was not communicated
<Katiee>
omnibusinc, gizmodroid. Can you tell me.. the projects that give you the failed to add error, are those projects ALREADY listed on your profile and/or gaining you Mag?
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by gizmodroid - Boinccmd tool - BOINC
<whatiwonder>
i'm getting this in my BOINC client... Failed to add a project to the pool's database. Please report to Katiee on #GridCoin IRC
<Katiee>
that is a very important thing I need to know x.x
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<whatiwonder>
am i being ignored?
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<Sander96>
I kinda wanted to not respond to that
<gizmodroid>
Katiee: I stared out with a fresh boinc install, fresh pool account. I attached poem in the pool online. I added the pool account manager to boinc. It grabbed poem jobs and started working. It would always fail to sync with the account manager after that
<Sander96>
but no
<Sander96>
I just can't help you
<itzapizza>
whatwonder yes. We're all shunning you. SHUNNNNN
<customminer>
No
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<customminer>
I mean who said that.
<gizmodroid>
Unless I removed project from boinc and my detached it online
<Katiee>
whatiwonder no you are not being ignored, that error is being worked on, I have no solution for you at the moment
<Andydrew23>
gizmodroid just ELI5 i know nothing about Windows cmd. i only know cisco IOS
<omnibusinc>
@Katiee I'm not sure, the error in the reply xml is not inside the account tag, so I'm trying to determine whether it's associated with the account above or below it...
<itzapizza>
no no. We're shunning him. SHUNNNNN
<itzapizza>
;)
<Katiee>
I think its the one below omnibusinc
<whatiwonder>
okay. thanks for letting me know.
<omnibusinc>
ok, checking
<Peppernrino>
!shun
<itzapizza>
lol
<whatiwonder>
also, Katiee, only my one computer shows up in my pool profile. is that normal? or did i miss something else?
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<Katiee>
no its not normal, make sure your other PC's BOINC client is setup correctly for the pool
<wilmerg>
hello
<Cartoonman_>
hi
<Cartoonman_>
eh?
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<omnibusinc>
I think that it is only failing for projects which are listed in my profile, but for which I have no RAC or MAG (though in some cases, I _have_ completed tasks, they just appear not to be getting tracked)
<whatiwonder>
okay. i did the same things to all of them (delete projects, sync to pool)
<whatiwonder>
i'll check to make sure though.
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<Katiee>
hm ok, well thats a start then, thanks omnibusinc
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<Katiee>
im going to add some more debugging to the errors, to help track this issue
<Katiee>
gonna go grab some food and a redbull first x.x brb!
<Bouowmx>
Depositing to GRCtip from personal wallet
<ltkeklulz>
I just checked all of my settings. RAM shouldn't be limiting it, but the system only using ~80MB of the 973MB of memory available right now. CPU is still only using 26%
<Bouowmx>
Gridcoin Research wallet has high idle CPU usage; it kills my battery
<lexieric>
what is the cpu used for when "idle
<Bouowmx>
Almost completely uses one thread
<Sander96_XPS13>
Bouowmx: close it then
<lexieric>
because it ends up shutting down my main boinc
<lexieric>
cause all cpu is used up
<Bouowmx>
Is running the wallet once a day often enough?
<lexieric>
what does the staking in wallet actaully
<Sander96_XPS13>
once a month is often enough
<lexieric>
do
<Sander96_XPS13>
if you're in the pool once a year if enough
<customminer>
If you're solo, the longer you continuously stake the more chances you have to stake a block and earn your grc
<Sander96_XPS13>
once a decade
<customminer>
Lol
<lexieric>
but if im in the pool
<lexieric>
does the staking actually do anything
<Sander96_XPS13>
Only for PoS AFAIK
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<Mxmlln>
!tip Sascha590 1
<GRCtip>
Mxmlln tipped Sascha590 1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<coinictus>
woof
<coinictus>
!rainactive 0.5 10
<GRCtip>
Sorry coinictus, your rain to active users (0.5 GRC) is too small (min. 0.1 GRC). Increase the amount or decrease max active users.
<coinictus>
!rainactive 0.5 5
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! coinictus rained 0.1 GRC on active users nagelxz, unattached, jjch, Quedra, alfredcl7! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<Sascha590>
thx Mxmlln
<coinictus>
yep
<Bouowmx>
!rainactive 1 10
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Bouowmx rained 0.1 GRC on active users joshtgl, uberg33k, RTW93, Peppernrino, Ashquith, jjch, coinictus, jrlax, holmea, LonelyFox! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<holmea>
!rainactive 4 20
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! holmea rained 0.2 GRC on active users customminer, Swipper, xarious, knoppas, SchietSchijf, captainolm, itzapizza, technutz, Ashquith, maokoto, gizmodroid, coinictus, Shinisama808, somebodysomewher, wilmerg, technoweenie, ltkeklulz, zagoti, wolfypup, fredlllll! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
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<wilmerg>
ty holmea
<zagoti>
thanks :-)
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<alfredcl7>
how do one withdraw coins again?
<Gary760>
thx
<thurber>
type /msg grctip !withdraw your_grc_adress
<alfredcl7>
thanks!
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<Mxmlln>
!tip zagoti 1
<GRCtip>
Mxmlln tipped zagoti 1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
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<Mxmlln>
!tip alfredcl7 1
<GRCtip>
Mxmlln tipped alfredcl7 1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<Gary760>
ty customminer
<alfredcl7>
my man!
<xarious>
thanks guys
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<zagoti>
thanks!
<Sander96>
nice news from WCG
<thurber>
West Coast Gangsters
<xarious>
hey guys how do you figure out which CPID that BOINC is using?
<Sander96>
pool or solo?
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<Gary760>
WCG repping 760!
<xarious>
solo
<Sander96_XPS13>
your CPID should show under the GRC logo on Overview in the wallet
<Sander96_XPS13>
to easily copy it I just do 'list cpids' in the console
<xarious>
ok but how do you make sure that BOINC is using the same one?
<Sander96_XPS13>
should merge automatically
<Sander96_XPS13>
also something you can see in list cpids
<xarious>
were is list cpids?
<Sander96_XPS13>
at the console
<Sander96_XPS13>
and the console is under
<Sander96_XPS13>
help _debug window - console
<Sander96_XPS13>
help -> debug window -> console*
<Sander96_XPS13>
and then type: list cpids
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<xarious>
ok it doesn't give me debug window under help just BOINC help, BOINC manager help, BOINC website, About BOINC manager
<Sander96_XPS13>
gridcoin wallet
<Sander96_XPS13>
not the boinc manager :P
<xarious>
ok, but how do I know the BOINC manager is using the same CPID as in my gridcoin wallet
<Sander96_XPS13>
The list cpids will show all your projects, if the projects are the same as you're running, you're good
<xarious>
ok
<xarious>
thanks
<Sander96_XPS13>
I think you can also check on the project website, or on boincstats, but this is easiest
<numb162>
woooo!!! I'm climbing the rankings in the pool!
<itzapizza>
in my wallet, it shows a transaction where I had a small amount deducted which I believe is for transaction fees, but it didn't actually deposit any
<NeuralMiner>
that's your beacon. it was probably .000011 or something like that.
<itzapizza>
.00101 actually
<itzapizza>
ok. thanks
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<Katiee>
who runs gridcoin.pl?
<Katiee>
anyone know?
<John-123>
what do u use to track performance numb162?
<numb162>
just the pool profile page mostly
<Sander96>
rerobert looks like Katiee
<Sander96>
Kontakt: admin@gridcoin.pl
<Katiee>
got a decent amount of page views from it, nice
<numb162>
!pool balance
<KatBot>
Requesting GridCoin.co Pool balance..
<KatBot>
Pool's Current Balance is @ 1481.879804233 GRC
<Sander96>
calculator or pool Katiee?
<Katiee>
calc
<Sander96>
It's on the links page
<Katiee>
yea
<Sander96>
surprised it gets a lot of views tho
<Katiee>
yea, thats why i asked
<Katiee>
seems like a legit site tho, good resource for polish speakers
<nagelxz>
its fine if it's not part of the pool though
<Sander96>
I'm not getting any workunits
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<MiXa1972>
hi
<Sander96>
evening
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<Sander96_XPS13>
!rainactive 1 10
<Sander96>
!rainactive 1 10
<Andydrew23>
its 1pm here, where are you at thats its evening?
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Sander96_XPS13 rained 0.1 GRC on active users Cursed, Montec, uberg33k, CryptoSnake, zagoti, xXUnRealXx, CircinusPrime, mangadave, vasifumi, Smiley! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Sander96 rained 0.1 GRC on active users TheLostBoy, RTW93, itzapizza, gizmodroid, DaVenez, Gizmo, xarious, MiXa1972, Ashquith, blizer! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<Sander96>
Netherlands
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<Sander96>
CEST
<CptFlashbang>
Hi everyone
<nagelxz>
an hour ahead
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Is it raining time? 1 GRC for 10 lucky users every 3 hours! Don't forget to tip me to keep the rain going!
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
!rain 10 10
<Andydrew23>
oh dang
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! [-SaRaFiNa-] rained 1 GRC on Bouowmx, jonatj, CircinusPrime, yepla, Shinisama808, anon7mous3, knoppas, Guest25602, somebodysomewher, d_o_c! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<gizmodroid>
Raining up in hur
<Gizmo>
nice my transaction posted
<yepla>
hello guys
<Gizmo>
!rainactive 10 10
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Gizmo rained 1 GRC on active users Montec, TheLostBoy, uberg33k, blizer, Shinisama808, CptFlashbang, spassbold, gregar22, LazerFazer, alfabit! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<Yoduza>
hello
<CptFlashbang>
woop woop
<yepla>
yeahhh i have got my card that i can to up with bitcoin :) so happy :)
<Andydrew23>
its rainin bitches
<yepla>
mastercard
<wilmerg>
yes, ty all
<Sander96_XPS13>
!tip Sander96 40
<GRCtip>
Sander96_XPS13 tipped Sander96 40 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<CptFlashbang>
I would tip but I need to save up enough to be able to send a beacon
<Sander96>
would be interesting to know
<Sander96>
CptFlashbang Beacon is 0.00011 lol
<Sander96>
!tip CptFlashbang 1
<GRCtip>
Sander96 tipped CptFlashbang 1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<CptFlashbang>
....
<CptFlashbang>
Yey!
<Sander96>
Now you can send more than 100 beacons
<Andydrew23>
lol
<CptFlashbang>
Thank you!
<CptFlashbang>
I am THAT poor guys
<Sander96_XPS13>
np
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<CptFlashbang>
I will rain all I can once I have money
<Andydrew23>
do tips come from your wallet or a balance on here?
<CptFlashbang>
Balance on here I think
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<Andydrew23>
sander96 do tips come from your wallet or a balance on here?
<Sander96_XPS13>
balance on here
<Sander96_XPS13>
./msg GRCtip help
<cpixels>
got my first pool payout 1.1 GRC \0/
<Andydrew23>
w e w lads
<Gizmo>
balance here, however as I discovered today, you can send funds from your wallet to the GRCTip bot so you can rain
<Gizmo>
so now i can do this!
<RTW93>
all this rain today
<Gizmo>
!rainactive 10 10
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Gizmo rained 1 GRC on active users Gary760, xarious, Trendle, xXUnRealXx, zerolimit, maksas, wilmerg, [-SaRaFiNa-], Sander96, Smiley! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<Sander96_XPS13>
ty
<wilmerg>
ty Gizmo
<Gizmo>
mah pleasure
<CptFlashbang>
Hi everyone, if I withdraw from my balance on here- when do I get the GRC in client?
<Andydrew23>
instantly
<Gizmo>
should be pretty instantaneous
<wilmerg>
how many confirmations needed to show the balance in grctip
<Sander96_XPS13>
no idea, it's quick
<Sander96_XPS13>
well
<Sander96_XPS13>
depositing isn't quick
<Gizmo>
it takes 6 confirmations
<Gizmo>
i beleive it took somewhere around 30 minutes for it to process
<Gizmo>
but i wasn't paying attention
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<wilmerg>
ic
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<Andydrew23>
im up to 4 mag #newbstatus
<jahjah>
The European Commission (EC) has announced its desire to crack down on the anonymous crypto-currencies. In a recent “action plan for strengthening the fight against terrorist financing”, the EC state its desire to staunch the flow of illicit funds into the hands of terrorists.
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by jahjah - European Commission - PRESS RELEASES - Press release - Commission presents Action Plan to strengthen the fight against terrorist financing
<jahjah>
shame they don't crack down on the countries funding terrorists
<cpixels>
ok gotcha, so magnitude is the number to look at to see how much your doing in a project relative to the rest of the team
<Sander96_XPS13>
yes
<Sander96_XPS13>
Like when denis ran out of workunits, I had like 22 RAC
<Sander96_XPS13>
but still got 100 magnitude
<Sander96_XPS13>
just for denis
<Asp>
yuppppppppppppp
<Sander96_XPS13>
because everyone else had shit RAC as well
<Sander96_XPS13>
no one could crunch
<Asp>
cause everyone else had jack shit
<Asp>
so thats how it works
<Asp>
get your rac in where others dont
<adotout1>
Katiee
<adotout1>
i cant sync
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<cpixels>
sounds like a good way to spread the computing power across the projects
<Sander96_XPS13>
sync with the pool? adotout1
<adotout1>
yeah
<adotout1>
it said something like "failed to add project to pool"
<adotout1>
something like that
<Sander96_XPS13>
more people having issues with that today
<Sander96_XPS13>
Maybe I am too
<adotout1>
"Failed to add a project to the pool's database. Please report to Katiee on #GridCoin IRC"
<Andydrew23>
i sent katiee a pm about my problem
<Andydrew23>
ive got the same thing
<adotout1>
k
<Andydrew23>
sander96_xps13 do you know whats causing it?
<Asp>
!cpid 50d9f166778f02bf30ac3a60f3701e19
<Bouowmx>
GRCidle seems to be out of funds
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<Sander96_XPS13>
i don't think even Katiee knows what's causing it. but she's fixing
<adotout1>
Good
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<Kaimane>
Hey guys. I installed the headless gridcoinresearch client on my ras pi from the launchpad repo for vivid. But now there are no new packages for vivid anymore. Switch to wily is not possible because only libboost v1.55 is available on raspbian.
<Kaimane>
Sander96_XPS13: I installed the gridcoin client on my raspberry pi which runs a linux os and I'm not able to upgrade the client to the newest version. This is my problem and do not know how to fix it ;)
<Sander96_XPS13>
caraka is our expert on Linux
<xXUnRealXx>
anyone know when grc finance will be fixed its extreamly unreliable
<errand>
damnit, really thought a project supported the parallella board Q_Q 16 cores doing nothing kinda breaks my heart
<errand>
still a neat board though
<Sander96_XPS13>
why does nothing support it?
<Kaimane>
Sander96_XPS13: I remember caraka has already helped me with another problem in the past.
<Sander96_XPS13>
Hopefully he'll be around when you are, he can help you ezpz
<_47an>
errand: Try enigma. if not you might need to set those core as coproccessor in cc config
<errand>
they are a weird architecture, even though boinc detects them allright it looks like no project has any work for them specifically
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by spassbold - Content type:
<omnibusinc>
@Katiee is it correct that for any project that I'm doing tasks for via the pool, I don't need to have an account of my own with that project?
<caraka>
sounds like you want me to put Kaimane down - permanently :P
<errand>
is it possible to get only low level tasks from a project? For instance collatz has "micro collatz" and normal stuff. Can I specify so that I get only micro ones?
<caraka>
Kaimane did you install using the PPA?
<Sander96_XPS13>
pool no, solo maybe errand
<caraka>
and is it a Rp1 or an PR2or3?
<Kaimane>
caraka: Yes. installed gridcoin headdless client using the ppa for vivid.
<caraka>
ah. Vivid is no longer supported - so it doesn;t compile for that any more.
<caraka>
trusty, wily, xenial
<Kaimane>
Okay. What should I do now to get the newest client on my pi?
<caraka>
so there is no new version unfortunat3ely :/
<caraka>
I would dist-upgrade to wily
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<caraka>
as in the whole OS
<caraka>
It should take care of itself via the package manager
<Kaimane>
whole os is raspbian not ubuntu.
<caraka>
I have never done that on a Pi
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<caraka>
Ah - even better - switch to the trusty PPA. It will be fine
<caraka>
and don't go changing Jessie/Raspbian
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<zagoti>
since Kaimane and caraka both know about the linux client: I use the prebuilt rpm and don't have access to the neural network...is that the case with every linux client? if so, how should I do about this step?
<Kaimane>
Okay :P ... That is an idea. I will try to use trusty. Give me 2 minutes ...
<zagoti>
In the neural network window, there should be a progress bar showing the sync progress. Once fully synced, click the 'Refresh' button and search for your CPID.
<NeuralMiner>
I'm still getting paid from the pool almost 3 weeks after i switched to solo. Is that normal?
<caraka>
If I recall correctly there is one awkward dependency that must be met for Jessie when using the trusty ppa - it will tell you
<Sander96>
yeah NeuralMiner
<Sander96>
You probably still have rac
<Sander96>
Check the pool stats
<Kaimane>
zagoti: as far as I know on linux there is no neural network support.
<NeuralMiner>
yeah i do. pretty cool.
<caraka>
^^ correct
<caraka>
Kaimane - try using teh xenial ppa instead - it is probably more compatible
<new123>
hello, i just get started with gridcoin and i need help:) 1. After blochchain downloading was done, my wallet still say "0 connections" and "not synched", moreover I istalled BOINC in custom directory. How do I point the right BOIN folder to Gridcoin Client?
<caraka>
as always, grab a copy of your wallet.dat while the wallet is closed, just in case
<Kaimane>
caraka, I need two more minutes. pi is a bit slow :) I will then check the dependencies.
<_47an>
errand: Did not find any answer to that if someone manage to make it work or not. Even if you manage with right instrucion as coprossesor they may not get valid do to witch app project can handle the harware.
<zagoti>
so I should just ignore this part of the installation guide?
<caraka>
zagoti: ther is no need for you to host the NN - only send a beacon like everyone else using execute advertisebeacon
<_47an>
So look around at any forum to see if any project could work with this one
<Kaimane>
So now libboost dependency problems are gone but I have to downgrade to libminiupnp8. I am on upnp10.
<caraka>
the beacon gets you into the NN. and that is all you need to do
<caraka>
I remember - that's it Kaimane - try using the xenial ppa and that might go away completelyu
<zagoti>
caraka: I already did and beaconreport already lists me but I still don't have any magnitude...thought the neural network might help
<caraka>
Jessie is somewhere between trusty and xenial depepndency wise
<errand>
_47an I added all projects and and checked them all, most simply said they do not support it at all. The remaining simply say that no tasks are available for this type of hardware. Which might mean that in the future something comes up
<errand>
thanks anyway
<caraka>
zagoti: then all you can do at this moment is wait - boinc has a slow refresh time, and the NN does too - it could be a day
<zagoti>
okay thanks :-)
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<_47an>
errand: ok good seti might be one of this project. They give out packages for the most part.
<zagoti>
!tip caraka 1
<GRCtip>
zagoti tipped caraka 1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<Sander96_XPS13>
Advanced -> Neural Network -> search your CPID
<Smiley>
where's that o?__O
<Sander96_XPS13>
in the wallet
<oakvision>
!balance
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
oakvision, please use /msg GRCtip balance as Tipbot will no longer respond to commands in channel except for !rain and !tip.
<Kaimane>
caraka: When using xenial ppa there is the libboost dependency problem again. I'm on libboost 1.55 with jessie but gridcoin expects libboost in version 1.58 and I do not know how to forcely upgrade, if it is even possible.
<Sander96_XPS13>
So does it say INVESTOR in your wallet?
<Sander96_XPS13>
under GRC wallet
<Smiley>
CPID: Investor
<Sander96_XPS13>
logo*
<Sander96_XPS13>
Ok ok
<caraka>
Kaimane - sorry - I forgot that xenial's default liboost is 1.58
<Sander96_XPS13>
Smiley Was BOINC installed on default path?
<caraka>
It might be easier to sort out the libminiupnp downgrade - one package and one that won't hurt anything
<Kaimane>
That was my thought too. It is only one insignificant dependency and downgrade should be no problem I think.
<Sander96_XPS13>
Were you even running boinc yet Smiley?
<d_o_c>
!rainactive 1 10
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! d_o_c rained 0.1 GRC on active users JimmyJim, Swipper, Smiley, Sander96_XPS13, LonelyFox, TheLostBoy, itzapizza, Gizmo, anon7mous3, thurber! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
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<anon7mous3>
How is GRCTip funded?
<anon7mous3>
Is it only through miners such as myself?
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<dasTholo>
nop user donations
<dasTholo>
anon7mous3, you can msg GRCtip and say !help
<DrakeShady>
Good news for everyone wanting to pool mine on Android. I've found the root of the problem, and I'm working on getting a build together to fix it
<Sander96_XPS13>
nice
<Smiley>
Sander96_XPS13: yes
<Smiley>
Sander96_XPS13: not default path
<Smiley>
boincdatadir=/var/lib/boinc
<anon7mous3>
Users donations? Like the same way as if I sent you GRC tips, I'd sent the bot tips to fund it?
<anon7mous3>
Just curious
<Sander96_XPS13>
go to the config and add that path
<Kaimane>
caraka: I got the deb package of libminiupnpc8 for trusty and installed it parallel to libminiupnpc10, no problem. Now apt-get upgrades all avaiable packages, gridcoinresearchd too :)
<Smiley>
ok some are switching over to gridcoin team now
<Sander96_XPS13>
now you just need to finish a task while on team Gridcoin and investor should disappear
<Peppernrino>
whoa did i win a tournament or something?
<Peppernrino>
<GRCidle> Peppernrino, the level 54 Pot Smoker, is now online from nickname Peppernrino. Next level in 22 days, 02:05:55.
<Peppernrino>
-GRCidle- Logon successful. Next level in 22 days, 02:05:55.
<Sander96_XPS13>
check your latest stats on the irpg website
<Peppernrino>
it was down
<Peppernrino>
i think graalcloud is ddosing me.
<Peppernrino>
;)
<NeuralMiner>
lol
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<Peppernrino>
<[-SaRaFiNa-]> Start your own Gridcoin website/node and let the world know why we Gridcoin! Free credits for SSD VPS - http://cur.lv/si4uk
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by Peppernrino - CoinURL - Redirect
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<thelonehamster>
hey
<DrakeShady>
hola
<Bouowmx>
GRCidle is out of funds again
<thelonehamster>
wgat?
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<DrakeShady>
donation address?
<thelonehamster>
oh
<Bouowmx>
"!tip GRCidle <amount>"
<thelonehamster>
ive staked already but i dont know where to go from here
<thelonehamster>
can i have some help?
<DrakeShady>
are you getting coins?
<Sander96>
!tip GRCidle 10
<GRCtip>
Sander96 tipped GRCidle 10 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<thelonehamster>
no
<Sander96>
thelonehamster What is the problem?
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<thelonehamster>
+sander96 ive staked already but i dont know where to go from here
<jahjah>
will GRC drop back down to below 0.25?
<Sander96_XPS13>
If you're staking then what is the problem?
<jahjah>
seems the hype is still real
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<thelonehamster>
is that all? nothing else i need to do?
<DrakeShady>
!priceall
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Requesting information from exchanges...
<Sander96_XPS13>
You're solo mining and you're staking right now or just staked and got PoR? Then you're good thelonehamster
<anon7mous3>
Question. On the page http://pool.gridcoin.co/profile/ where it asks for the GRC Address, is this supposed to be my wallet address? I've been solo mining for a few days and am switching to the pool
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by anon7mous3 - GridCoin.co Pool (beta)
<DrakeShady>
yeah, put a wallet address in the textbox and hit save
<omnibusinc>
@anon7mous3 yes
<thelonehamster>
i forced a stake a few days ago and i havent had any rewards yet
<anon7mous3>
Okay thx
<thelonehamster>
and i just dont know where to go from here
<Sander96_XPS13>
You forced a beacon?
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<thelonehamster>
yes
<DrakeShady>
whats your magnitude at?
<Sander96_XPS13>
staking and sending a beacon is a bit different, but you're on track
<thelonehamster>
o.oo
<Sander96>
0.00?
<thelonehamster>
yeah, sorry
<DrakeShady>
somethings not set up properly theb
<DrakeShady>
then*
<Sander96>
Yeah
<thelonehamster>
but i had a magnitude of about 24 a few days ago, then it wnet away
<thelonehamster>
*went
<Sander96_XPS13>
that is even stranger
<DrakeShady>
CPID issue maybe?
<Sander96_XPS13>
do 'list cpids' in console (Help -> Debug -> console)
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by KatBot - Katiee's GRC Magnitude/Earnings Calculator
<vega30000>
!help
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
vega30000, sending commands via PM.
<Goku11>
Sanders96_XPS13 yeah
<Sander96_XPS13>
!rainactive 0.67916771 7
<GRCtip>
Sorry Sander96_XPS13, your rain to active users (0.67916771 GRC) is too small (min. 0.1 GRC). Increase the amount or decrease max active users.
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<aepksbuck>
I've a question on GRC and taxes. How does that work?
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<fkinglag>
depends on where u live aepksbuck
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<fkinglag>
and also if you actually want to pay because that is the spirit of all this
<aepksbuck>
My estimation puts me at less than $100/year, so it shouldn't be an issue if I'm just mining, but if I start working the market, who knows?
<Sander96>
I personally did not put it on my tax forms (Netherlands)
<fkinglag>
fuck taxes (USA)
<fkinglag>
on a side node, capital gains tax applies to coins now
<fkinglag>
ALL COINS (USA)
<aepksbuck>
fkinglag: that was my question. I knew btc was subject, but didn't know about alts.
<pantss>
hey guys, I set up boinc and a wallet on my desktop computer to mine, but I would like to now receive the funds and use the balance of my laptop. What all do i need to do to set this up?
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<fkinglag>
I read the document and if I am remembering right they put in terminology to cover alts, too aepksbuck
<Sander96_XPS13>
I sold CS:GO skins for BTC and went from BTC to GRC, so the government doesn't know I have anything anyway
<Sander96_XPS13>
and it's not like it's a lot anyway
<fkinglag>
I honestly have to sell my hats already
<Sander96>
haha
<aepksbuck>
I figure that what I'm going to make is probably about the same as I'll find on the street -- and I never report that.
<spassbold>
pantss : The easiest way is by joining the pool
<spassbold>
follow the instructions on pool.gridcoin.co
<ltkeklulz>
So basically, RAC is how much work your system puts in and magnitude is how well you do compared to everyone else on that project, right?
<Sander96_XPS13>
well credits is how much work you've done, RAC is how much work in on average over 2 weeks, and magnitude compares to to everyone from the team on a project
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<ltkeklulz>
That makes sense. Thanks
<Sander96_XPS13>
Np
<Sander96_XPS13>
!tip ltkeklulz 1
<GRCtip>
Sorry Sander96_XPS13, you don't have enough funds (you're 0.48051949000000005 GRC short).
<Sander96_XPS13>
wrong account
<Sander96>
!tip ltkeklulz 1
<GRCtip>
Sander96 tipped ltkeklulz 1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<Sander96>
!tip Sander96_XPS13 10
<GRCtip>
Sander96 tipped Sander96_XPS13 10 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<ltkeklulz>
Hey, thanks!
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<ltkeklulz>
I've had it running for a few days now and wasn't completely sure how to tell if it was good or not
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<ltkeklulz>
Is magnitude an actual percentage of the total or is it out of some other amount?
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<ltkeklulz>
For example, if my mag is 15, does that mean I've done 15% of the total RAC?
<Sander96_XPS13>
nah, not sure what the exact formula is
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<spassbold>
mag is the sum over all project of (your rac in this project / total rac in this project / # of projects
<spassbold>
sum over all project of (your rac in this project / total rac in this project ) / # of projects
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Is it raining time? 1 GRC for 10 lucky users every 3 hours! Don't forget to tip me to keep the rain going!
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
!rain 10 10
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! [-SaRaFiNa-] rained 1 GRC on betaboot, Shinisama808, cbr, tristanupsha, teslax, dwatkins, spassbold, Bfroyo, DrakeShady, SchietSchijf! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<Juhzuri>
Looking to correct - "GridCoin.co Pool: Notice from BOINC Message from account manager: Failed to add a project to the pool's database. Please report to Katiee on #GridCoin IRC"
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by spassbold - Content type:
<spassbold>
Katiee is working on it
<Juhzuri>
spassbold: I appreciate the link and your time!
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<spassbold>
For anyone wanting to, you can send me the full files of; "acct_mgr_reply.xml" and "acct_mgr_request.xml" from your BOINC data directory after syncing with the pool and getting that error. This will speed up the process of me finding out what might be causing it. Just PM them to me on the forums, do not post them in this thread. Thank you.
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by spassbold - Content type:
<spassbold>
you are welcome :)
<customminer>
Chick3nman: partially - in some vidya the now, sup?
<Chick3nman>
yafu might be vulnerable to an exploit
<Chick3nman>
for undeserved credit
<customminer>
: /
<customminer>
we could contact the project admin
<Chick3nman>
that doesnt mean those guys on top are cheating
<Chick3nman>
however with enough power, you can
<customminer>
or we could remove the project from the whitelist
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<Chick3nman>
lets not do anything drastic
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<Chick3nman>
i say might because it only kinda worked
<customminer>
contacting the admin may be the best course
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<Chick3nman>
yeah
<Chick3nman>
who runs yafu? do we know?
<NeuralMiner>
I'm definitely getting cheaped on yafu.
<Chick3nman>
its still in early stages of release testing right
<NeuralMiner>
I looked for the admin contact, but couldnt find it on their page anywhere.
<Chick3nman>
hmm ok
<Chick3nman>
if i can confirm that its vulnerable it will need to be removed until we can have it fixed
<NeuralMiner>
Might have to hit up their boards. I sent a message to one of the guys that lapped me asking how he was able to do it but they never replied.
<Chick3nman>
they wont
<spassbold>
wait
<NeuralMiner>
No way they got 3mil credits over the weekend. it took me like 2 weeks to get 1.5mil.
<spassbold>
the yafu admin is currently on gridcoin-german
<NeuralMiner>
well hot damn,.
<Chick3nman>
however if my attack scenario works with the exploit i think does, having 2 people would make it MUCH easier to cheat
<spassbold>
and he is on the forum now
<spassbold>
YoYo
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<spassbold>
you can contact him right on the gridcoin forum lol
<Chick3nman>
lol im not on the forum
<Chick3nman>
except for like
<Chick3nman>
sending rob msgs
<Chick3nman>
about the exploits i have found
<spassbold>
but yeah it's early testing
<Chick3nman>
that he didnt seem to care about
<Chick3nman>
:P
<spassbold>
so don't expect it all to work straight away :)
<Chick3nman>
in its early stage it should be giving flat credit
<Chick3nman>
and doing verifications
<spassbold>
but he said he's looking into GRC now
<spassbold>
would be cool to have a project admin (of yafu and yoyo) onboard
<NeuralMiner>
spassbold: what's his nic here? I'll send him a message. Curious how they pulled that off over the weekend.
<NeuralMiner>
I'm talking to the admin from yafu now Chick3nman
<NeuralMiner>
widnows.
<Chick3nman>
ahh
<Chick3nman>
i can get their linux app to actually start
* fkinglag
is too busy doing drugs
<Chick3nman>
it lists WUs and never initializes them
<itzapizza>
ok so if there is a finite limit to gridcoin, it can go up in value
<spassbold>
same reason money is worhless as there is also not a fixed amount of it
<itzapizza>
money is fiat money
<customminer>
itzapizza: there is no cap on the quantity of gridcoin
<spassbold>
yes
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<spassbold>
one of the goals of gridcoin is to have commercial projects
<Chick3nman>
speaking of
<spassbold>
so that companies pay to get some of the computing power
<itzapizza>
ok so if research company receives $1000 in donations, and they use that to pay boinc, do the gridcoins get minted by them or do they buy them on the market?
<NeuralMiner>
"Linux running on an AMD x86_64 or Intel EM64T CPU" looks like it should be supported.
<CptFlashbang>
thing is in RL currency the amount is determined by a mint
<spassbold>
for that they have to buy and burn (destroy coins)
<spassbold>
so coins get deleted -> value increases
<Juhzuri>
So is it still true that if you have Project A @ 100% resource share and Project B @ 0% resource share, that when Project A's task queue is empty, that Project B would pick up tasks?
<NeuralMiner>
Juhzuri: yes.
<Chick3nman>
yeah i know NeuralMiner, but it never starts the WUs. They just remain as "downloading" and "not initialized"
<itzapizza>
wait, coins get deleted?
<Juhzuri>
NeuralMiner: Thanks.
<spassbold>
not now
<itzapizza>
or do they just get passed around?
<CptFlashbang>
I actually need to find out how I earn money...
<spassbold>
but that is a goal
<spassbold>
right now coins get produced for doing research
<itzapizza>
what's the point of deleting them?
<spassbold>
just like bitcoins get created for solving hashes
<spassbold>
so that the value rises
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<spassbold>
less coins -> one coin has more value
<itzapizza>
wait...I'm so confused. coins get MINTED by doing research?
<customminer>
burn or distribute to those who crunch their work units
<spassbold>
itzapizza : yes
<customminer>
itzapizza: no, coins get minted by staking. You're rewarded for your research on top of your staking reward. watchi this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSg2Dt61DQs
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by customminer - Transaction and Proof Methods Used in Block Chain Technology Bitcoin and Gridcoin - YouTube
<spassbold>
that is the basic premise of gridcoin
<spassbold>
technically no as cm sad
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<spassbold>
but if you think of it just as coins being generated then yes
<Chick3nman>
would you guys be interested in a project revolving around hash cracking? I may have found a few ways to get useful work done via distributed workloads without redundancy causing huge overlap
<spassbold>
Chick3nman: probably a project for which many people would pay a lot of money for
<customminer>
yes, especially if it was the first commercial project
<spassbold>
but legally questionably, no?
<Chick3nman>
well
<customminer>
password recovery!
<Chick3nman>
not if done right
<spassbold>
this can easily be done by anyone
<Chick3nman>
it cant be general use either, i havent figured that out
<spassbold>
setup a boinc project
<spassbold>
you can ask for money for what you are doing
<Chick3nman>
its a specific scenario that i can apply distributed work
<spassbold>
then you only have to convince the gridcoin community to whitelist your project
<spassbold>
if you can do that by for example promising to buy coins on the market and burn them -> win win situation
<Chick3nman>
haha
<Chick3nman>
true
<customminer>
lol
<customminer>
or just campaigning
<Chick3nman>
i was looking into doing a project to find the first SHA-1 Collision
<customminer>
>first project admin to actually campaign for whitelist
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<Chick3nman>
since thats still not been found and there is a huge bounty out for it at this point that i could then turn around and buy GRC with and distribute in a project rain if found
<DrakeShady>
better than US POTUS campaigns
<Chick3nman>
that would be cool
<customminer>
cool
<Chick3nman>
the sha-1 collision bounty has a few thousand in it at least last i saw
<Chick3nman>
plus the publicity would be HUGE
<Montec>
Is it even possible to be profitable from GRC?
<Chick3nman>
yes Montec
<Chick3nman>
though hard
<Montec>
How???
<Chick3nman>
tactical mining?
<Montec>
whats that?
<DrakeShady>
getting the perfect combination of projects for your computer
<customminer>
itzapizza: it does explain how they're created - through proof of stake.
<caraka>
nz is at about .18 USD
<tristanupsha>
I also know that in S. Korea, household electricity increases non-linearly with more usage... which sucks
<Chick3nman>
damnit
<customminer>
itzapizza: you stake with your balance, and you earn interest on your balance when you stake a block.
<Chick3nman>
there was already a BOINC project for SHA-1 collision search
<Chick3nman>
and it died a long time ago
<Chick3nman>
wtf
<customminer>
:/
<fkinglag>
:\
<cpixels>
Germanys prices surprise me
<itzapizza>
customminer I'll have to take your word for it. I really didn't follow the explanation on that.
<jahjah>
Why so? Germany is outrageous in almost every sector
<fkinglag>
I should move to a country with a lower standard of living and price of electricity
<customminer>
lol
<fkinglag>
setup GRC mint
<Chick3nman>
we can still attempt a few other things via distributed computing, but now i need to look for one thats efficient and not grey area on legallity
<itzapizza>
it was more of an overall explanation that a detail explanation of how anyway
<customminer>
Chick3nman: Before doing anything grey, discuss it with a competent lawyer.
<jahjah>
move to zambia and buy a supercomputer from ibm
<jahjah>
pay every member of the country to create power for you
<tristanupsha>
Would there be enough electricity in that country?
<Chick3nman>
customminer: i know, i do this stuff for a living, the problem is just that its hard to maintain a good TOS on a larger scale project
<spassbold>
itzapizza: what did you mean with created by donations though?
<fkinglag>
consult your nearest armchair lawyer from the internet, Chick3nman
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by Katiee - In Japan do cats really say nya instead of meow? | Yahoo Answers
<Sander96>
It's like a rooster
<tristanupsha>
So I would have to make $0.45 per day to make up for my laptop's electricity usage... and I'm making
<Montec>
Japan has the highest debt
<Sander96>
What sound does a rooster make?
<tristanupsha>
3 cents a day
<k0r3>
!tip Katiee 1 lol
<GRCtip>
k0r3 tipped Katiee 1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<Sander96>
kukelekuu in the Netherlands
<spassbold>
it will get more
<tristanupsha>
But most of Japan's debts are owned by their own citizens. I feel like we've gone over this before.
<Sander96>
tristanupsha What projects are you running?
<spassbold>
your magnitude has to grow
<fkinglag>
the price of GRC is not really going to always be the same
<spassbold>
it's an average over time
<tristanupsha>
Citizen Science Grid, Astroid, and WUprop
<tristanupsha>
it's only been 3 days tho
<tristanupsha>
and spent the first day trying to get it to work
<Sander96>
add Gridcoin Finance
<Sander96>
it will run together with CSG
<tristanupsha>
is it low CPU?
<tristanupsha>
oh
<Sander96>
yeah
<Knoomi>
what's gridcoin finance?
<Sander96>
not as low as wuprop
<Sander96>
but low enough
* caraka
thanks fkinglag for his generous tip nyan!
<Sander96>
a project
<NeuralMiner>
customminer: Chick3nman, I talked to the admin for yafu. Looks like those guys at the top might be legit. At least in the form of their WU being valid.
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<Knoomi>
aa okay
<Katiee>
Word Origin and History for meow
<Katiee>
n.
<Katiee>
representation of cat sound, 1842, earlier miaow, miau, meaw (1630s). Of imitative origin, cf. French miaou, German miauen, Persian maw, Japanese nya nya, Arabic nau-nau, and Joyce's mrkgnao. In Chinese, miau means "cat." As a verb by 1630s, meaw, also meawle. Cf. Old French miauer "to meow, caterwaul." Related: Meowed; meowing.
<Katiee>
cool.
<Katiee>
I am done looking up meow facts now lol
<customminer>
lol
<caraka>
nyan
<Juhzuri>
So... I had started on Project A, switched to Project B, but Project A is getting credit within my profile and not Project B at this point. Should I wipe this client's config and restart or?...
<Sander96_XPS13>
I think in Dutch it's miauw
<spassbold>
Gridcoin Finane is a project of Rob, the dev. The goal of the project is to predict the stock market using the computing power of team gridcoin
<Chick3nman>
oh my god
<caraka>
No Juhzuri, hold fire - keep all those credits
<spassbold>
Rob wants to create a hedge fund, in which you can invest with cryptocurrencies and then get paid out the winnings of the fun
<Montec>
my project just stuck on 4.7 percent
<Chick3nman>
i know what i could distribute
<Knoomi>
can anyone tell what are best projects for intel i5 cpu and radeon hd 6950 gpu?
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<customminer>
?
<caraka>
?
<Sander96_XPS13>
?
<tristanupsha>
?
<Katiee>
?
<caraka>
?
<Montec>
?
<customminer>
Knoomi: An CPU project and an AMD GPU project.
<customminer>
?
<Chick3nman>
i know how to efficiently spread out several types of hashes
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! k0r3 rained 0.2 GRC on active users oakvision, patanjali, numb162, CptFlashbang, xXUnRealXx, Kaimane, Gary760, knoppas, tristanupsha, YajuuSenpai, zerolimit, Smiley, caraka, Chick3nman, IrcTg_Bot, DaVenez, Katiee, omnibusinc, errand, Asp! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<caraka>
Juhzuri: that may be a concidence - you rarely now exactly whch project is creating a payment, because it's done from magnitude not RAC
<Knoomi>
if i'm pool mining should i have something else than INVESTOR as CPID in the wallet?
<tristanupsha>
thank you
<caraka>
\o/
<numb162>
wooo
<Sander96_XPS13>
Knoomi Nope, that's good
<cpixels>
so is there anything wrong with paying no attention to which projects run better on what, filling up the project list and just letting it go?
<numb162>
thank you!!
<caraka>
ty k0r3!
<k0r3>
:D
<Sander96_XPS13>
Knoomi Just add a CPU and a GPU project, they don't slow each other down
<Katiee>
"DOGS MATERRACE".. ฅ(≚ᄌ≚)
<Montec>
moo wrapper works very strangely
<caraka>
cpixels: crunching for love, not money, is what most of us do - cruch the science you like
<Katiee>
(≚ᄌ≚)ƶƵ
<Knoomi>
Sander96_XPS13: really? but all the gpu projects i've tried use some cpu too
<Montec>
I love my dog, sadly she probably has tumour in her heqad
<Sander96>
not a lot tho Knoomi
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<caraka>
you need some cpu to run the gpu - but not much
<Juhzuri>
caraka: Well, it's like my client is out of sync. Stuff in Eventlog shows project A's config getting loaded, and then work for project B being done. Getting sync error messages to begin with about adding project to pool.
<Gary760>
thanks
<Katiee>
cpixels its not a good idea to add all the projects at once
<cpixels>
caraka that's what I'm doing :)
<caraka>
'ARe you in the pool Juhzuri?
<Sander96_XPS13>
seems like the problem with the pool is pretty widespread
<cpixels>
not all.. have 10 listed
<cpixels>
is that too many
<Sander96_XPS13>
haha, 10 projects running?!
<Juhzuri>
caraka: Yes. I have 3 clients in the pool. All *were* working right. Then I switched this one client to a different project on the site. Then client hasn't been right since.
<caraka>
possibly too many cpixels - set 'no new tasks' for the ones you don't love, and let them finish
<Katiee>
it cant be that widespread tho.. I mean we got like +3k mag in the last week x.x
<cpixels>
hmm hard choice
<Katiee>
I dunno wth the problem is yet.. but im trying to figure it out :/
<Katiee>
Juhzuri what project was it?
<caraka>
Juhzuri: pay attention to Katiee, the mistress of the pool...
<cpixels>
btw any reason why LHC is inactive?
<caraka>
and purveyor of unique japanese etymology :P
<caraka>
cpixels: lots of people have trouble getting LHC to load projects - it is tricky to get going
<Goku11>
I'm getting a ton of "Computation Errors" is this normal at all? http://imgur.com/WKlOeX2
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by Goku11 - Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet
<Gizmo>
yawn
<Gizmo>
i HATE data entry
<Juhzuri>
Katiee: I was on Milkyway@Home. Switched to Citizen Science Grid. Client is doing tasks for Citizen Science Grid as we speak. Getting sync errors and config, etc shows Milkyway@Home. Also, RAC has been going up on Milkyway@Home for this client and hasn't registered with Citizen Science Grid on the site.
<tristanupsha>
just did some searching and in S.Korea, household electricity costs 5 cents for the first 100kWh, 10 cent for next, 15 cent, 25 cent, 35 cent, 60 cent for 500+kWh
<Goku11>
Gizmo develop something to do it for you then :D
<Katiee>
hm yea, Citizen Science Grid does seem to be a common thing between everyone having this issue..
<Montec>
Who are hyped for GTX 1000 series?
<Goku11>
People who can affor them Montec
<Sander96_XPS13>
when are those coming?
<Gizmo>
oh i'm sure when they finally let me go to training for the system (we've installed 4 now) there will be some handy utility that will do it all
<Montec>
very soon
<Chick3nman>
Montec: they arent called that
<Gizmo>
but no, they'd rather rush me into deploying a bunch of equipment and get me trained later
<tristanupsha>
I'm not buying any new computer parts anytime soon... so I'm not
<Montec>
I know
<Goku11>
Gizmo ain't that a bitch
<Chick3nman>
its going to be the X80 series
<Gizmo>
yep
<Montec>
its called the X series
<jahjah>
SK have a real problem with gaming addiction, i bet that's one of their methods to combat it along with disabling under 18s internet access @ 10pm
<Juhzuri>
Katiee: Current plan is to run out remaining tasks on client, nuke it, and start fresh with it. Other clients seem okay.
<Chick3nman>
X80, X80ti, X80 Titan
<Gizmo>
!rainactive
<GRCtip>
Usage: !rainactive <amount> [max active users]
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by Goku11 - Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet
<Gizmo>
but my boredom is your gain!
<Montec>
It will have double the performance per watt!!!
<Gizmo>
!rainactive 10 20
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Gizmo rained 0.5 GRC on active users fkinglag, jahjah, Juhzuri, holmea, blizer, bob21, mfgrim, Goku11, Sander96_XPS13, YajuuSenpai, gizmodroid, KatBot, RTW93, cpixels, Wered, Desalty, Gatlack, vasifumi, bitempla, Kaimane! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<kopykat>
lovely
<Goku11>
thanks Gizmo
<kopykat>
keem em comin
<kopykat>
thanx
<tristanupsha>
They call it gaming addiction but what it really is the stress from unreasonable academic expectations
<holmea>
thanks
<fkinglag>
\o/
<bob21>
thx Gizmo
<caraka>
It's good to see sEpuLchEr in the list, even if he is away at the moment :P
<Gizmo>
i agree!
<Sander96_XPS13>
that does not look normal Goku11
<jahjah>
That's the culture adding to that pot of toxicity
<Katiee>
Goku11 no that is not normal
<Gizmo>
mmm pot
<Andydrew23>
hey katiee, im sure youve been told this a lot today, but when i try to sync my laptop with gridcoin.co it fails to add a project to the pools database and tells me to report to you
<Katiee>
which project is it Andydrew23?
<tristanupsha>
for a moment, I thought it said "report you"
<Gizmo>
!rainactive 10 20
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Gizmo rained 0.5 GRC on active users Blowdumps, NeuralMiner, fkinglag, astro123, Kaimane, customminer, Sander96, Desalty, knoppas, bob21, xXUnRealXx, Wered, Sander96_XPS13, omnibusinc, zagoti, bitempla, caraka, holmea, RTW93, gizmodroid! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<Gizmo>
oops.. wrong button
<Juhzuri>
Andydrew23: Welcome to the club \o/
<caraka>
\o/
<Gizmo>
oh well ;)
<caraka>
ty Gizmo
<Goku11>
Katiee ok, so what should I do to fix it?
<bob21>
lol oops thx Gizmo
<mfgrim>
you're too nice
<tristanupsha>
missed me :(
<astro123>
thanks Gizmo!
<Andydrew23>
i was trying to add einstein, then i removed that to see if that would fix the problem. but it still wont sync
<Knoomi>
thanks caraka, it's a shame Gizmo missed me ;P
<caraka>
!tip Andydrew23 1
<Gizmo>
!tip Andydrew23 5
<NeuralMiner>
!tip Andydrew23 2
<GRCtip>
caraka tipped Andydrew23 1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<GRCtip>
Gizmo tipped Andydrew23 5 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<GRCtip>
NeuralMiner tipped Andydrew23 2 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<NeuralMiner>
lol
<itzapizza>
lol
<Sander96_XPS13>
lol
<Gizmo>
haha
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<Andydrew23>
oh shit :)
<itzapizza>
jynx
<NeuralMiner>
bout to take my money back from the jar.
<Sander96_XPS13>
I'd join you guys, but I feel like I'm too late now
<Katiee>
Andydrew23, can you tell me which project is failing on the pool?
<Knoomi>
daaamn
<Juhzuri>
Katiee: I restarted BOINC as well. No luck here
<Sander96_XPS13>
That was for another problem Juhzuri
<Andydrew23>
i currently only have gridcoin finance and wuprop attached to the pool for the host that wont sync katiee
<Katiee>
Juhzuri I was talking to Goku11, he was having a different problem with tasks :P
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<tristanupsha>
Is there any picture of a physical GRC coin replica?
<Katiee>
Andydrew23 do you have any other projects in BOINC besides those?
<Andydrew23>
no
<Katiee>
hm
<Katiee>
ok
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<Goku11>
tristanupsha I think that is what the green symbol is
<Andydrew23>
thanks guys :)
<Sander96_XPS13>
Does it just happen for everyone that is adding a new project now? maybe removing one first?
<Sander96_XPS13>
and then trying to sync
<tristanupsha>
Goku11 Yes but did anyone make an actual metal replica of it
<Andydrew23>
katiee on another host i have GF, milkyway, poem, wuprop, and gpugrid
<cpixels>
added climate prediction on the pool. got the following message This project is using an old URL. When convenient, remove the project, then add http://climateprediction.net/
<yoyo[RKN]>
I installed the grc wallet. Is it syncing by itself or have I to click somewhere?
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by cpixels - climateprediction.net | The world's largest climate modelling experiment for the 21st century
<Sander96_XPS13>
yoyo[RKN]: Hopefully it will by itself
<cpixels>
does that mean the pool is linked to the wrong url?
<Katiee>
yea u can ignore that error cpixels
<Goku11>
tristanupsha I have no idea, what would be the point of it?
<cpixels>
ok thanks
<tristanupsha>
Goku11 Well they have several for Bitcoins, just wondering
<Katiee>
climatepred uses two different URLs
<yoyo[RKN]>
ok, something is downloading
<Sander96_XPS13>
Then it should be working
<Sander96_XPS13>
Rebuild blockchain -> Download blocks will speed things up, need to run the wallet in admin for that though
<Goku11>
tristanupsha I'd rather have GRC than a physical representation of one, lol
<cpixels>
ok I'll leave it alone
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<Andydrew23>
katiee, what should i do?
<NeuralMiner>
!tip Sander96_XPS13 2
<GRCtip>
NeuralMiner tipped Sander96_XPS13 2 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<tristanupsha>
Goku11 we call it entertainment, some would call it culture.
<Katiee>
Juhzuri whats ur username on the pool?
<Goku11>
I call, not having a physical coin, culture
<Goku11>
it's purely for entertainment, which is why the world is so fucked in the first place
<Knoomi>
what does "probing coin age" mean?
<spassbold>
yoyo[RKN] : are you following the guide on gridcoin.us ?
<tristanupsha>
Think of your childhood, would you not be interested in a holographic shiny metal coin?
<itzapizza>
yoyo[RKN] if your wallet doesn't sync, check if your firewall is blocking the port
<Sander96_XPS13>
If something is downloading he should be good
<Goku11>
Not really, I'm not materialistic whatsoever
<itzapizza>
Sander96_XPS13 didn't work for me until I opened the port
<yoyo[RKN]>
yes, I followed the guide
<itzapizza>
Sander96_XPS13 even though the downloading was working
<Goku11>
I like people more than objects
<Sander96_XPS13>
strange itzapizza
<itzapizza>
That's what they call me. Strange Itzapizza
<tristanupsha>
But then you can show it to people!
<tristanupsha>
It would be an interesting conversation starter (provided the other person is also interested in BTC)
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<Goku11>
Yeah, but I'm not a show off. Hahahaha, punny.
<itzapizza>
after I opened the port, it synced right up
<Goku11>
It could be a good conversation starter, but I just yell at people: "Hey have you heard of BTC or GRC?"
<itzapizza>
Sander96_XPS13 I think the difference is that the sync might require a receive and the download does a pull.
<tristanupsha>
Ugh, I hate it when the task is at 99% but BOINC just decides to work on another task instead
<Knoomi>
geez Goku11 you must have lots of friends :P
<Goku11>
tristanupsha ha mine did that, but I suspended the others
<tristanupsha>
Yeah suspending works... but sometimes the project will just simply download more tasks and work on them instead :/
<Goku11>
Knoomi I try to, :D
<tristanupsha>
wait, so if Gridcoin Finance has estimated remaining time of 1d 6hrs... but it's due in 23.5 hrs...
<Goku11>
for next payment?
<tristanupsha>
BOINC task
<tristanupsha>
the deadline is in 23.5 hrs
<tristanupsha>
but estimated remaining time is more than 1d
<Goku11>
sounds like I wouldn't run that one, haha
<tristanupsha>
it's supposed to be non-CPU intensive :$
<Knoomi>
what does "probing coin age" mean?
<Goku11>
Knoomi it's judging when you can accept POR rewards
<customminer>
Knoomi: normal staking message.
<caraka>
Knoomi: coins need to be mature (16 hours old) to stake interest. your wallet is checking...
<customminer>
tristanupsha: Yeah, it is non-cpu intensive - look up your task manager, check how much resources it's using. If it's using a lot then there's something wrong.
<caraka>
It will always probe coin age after a restart - and then periodically from there, more if you have lots of transactions
<tristanupsha>
I'm more concerned that it's not using enough and will not complete before the deadline
<Knoomi>
ok so it should show whenever there's been a transaction in under 16 hours?
<Goku11>
tristanupsha well if you're running more projects, your cpu might be getting eaten elsewhere, like custom said, check TM
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Montec, please use /msg GRCtip balance as Tipbot will no longer respond to commands in channel except for !rain and !tip.
<Sander96_XPS13>
!tip yoyo[RKN] 1
<GRCtip>
Sander96_XPS13 tipped yoyo[RKN] 1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<Sander96_XPS13>
and then withdraw that to your wallet address
<yoyo[RKN]>
I assume this is called "investor mode"
<caraka>
yes
<Sander96_XPS13>
yup
<Montec>
!tip Sander96_XPS13 1
<GRCtip>
Montec tipped Sander96_XPS13 1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<gizmodroid>
katiee: windows 7 here
<Juhzuri>
yoyo[RKN]: When you hover over the little "signal bars" in client (As seen as the 3rd icon down on the right in this pic: http://i.imgur.com/nXQFUAF.png) does it say how many connections you have?
<caraka>
^^
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by Juhzuri - Content type: image/png
<Sander96_XPS13>
ty Montec
<Montec>
Its all about the community eh? :)
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<yoyo[RKN]>
I think this is the problem, I have 0 connections to the grc network
<CptFlashbang>
I accidentally lost connection. Please can somebody fill me in on the issue Katiee was on about just before I DC'd?
<Sander96_XPS13>
Totally
<Katiee>
WHOA
<Katiee>
ok
<Katiee>
yea
<Katiee>
this is baaaaaaaaaaaaad
<Sander96_XPS13>
lol
<Sander96_XPS13>
Katiee pls
<Sander96_XPS13>
no
<Katiee>
Sander96 yes
<Montec>
See you all
<Katiee>
ugh
<Sander96_XPS13>
CptFlashbang: You have sync issues from the pool?
<Katiee>
"I checked in a change to the server software that would deal with this particular case by comparing the CPU name, #CPUs, and OS vendor and name. This is not a general fix since these can all be the same on different computers."
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by Juhzuri - Content type: image/png
<Sander96_XPS13>
none of those things are unique...
<Katiee>
but on older BOINC servers it seem to not look at that many things, even if the hostnames are different, they can still get the same host cpid :/
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<Sander96_XPS13>
sooooo
<Sander96_XPS13>
we're fucked
<Katiee>
im going to have to completely rewrite the way the pool handles hosts..
<Sander96_XPS13>
Is it possible though?
<Katiee>
i sure hope so
<customminer>
could nudge the issue again on github..
<Katiee>
it doesnt matter customminer
<customminer>
?
<Sander96_XPS13>
yeah but if someone projects aren't updating
<Katiee>
the old projects will never update the server software
<customminer>
then they should be removed from the whitelist
<gizmodroid>
so is this just affecting pool mining?
<Sander96_XPS13>
yes
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<customminer>
ultimately, if projects don't update, they'll eventually become insecure
<Katiee>
but do you think that will actually happen customminer?
<Gizmo>
ugh problem stil not solved?
<Gizmo>
more money!
<customminer>
what, removal from the whitelist? I'll vote a dying project out.
<Gizmo>
!rainactive 10 20
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Gizmo rained 0.5 GRC on active users Blowdumps, Goku11, xXUnRealXx, vega30000_, customminer, Katiee, xms, CptFlashbang, caraka, omnibusinc, oakvision, DrakeShady, Sander96, holmea, astro123, kickeefast, p41nk1ll3r, Firecrotch, zerolimit, xarious! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<customminer>
Katiee: we can publicly name and shame projects
<spassbold>
so the problem only exists for older boinc projects?
<astro123>
thanks again Gizmo!
<xms>
thx
<Katiee>
problem is, I don't even think the current server software version has fixed the issue
<spassbold>
mention on the page that currently only newer projects can be run?
<spassbold>
oh
<Sander96_XPS13>
yeah because none of those things are unique
<Gizmo>
alright, im seriously out now... cya tomorrow maybe
<Katiee>
so not only do we have to get the BOINC devs to fix it, but we have to get all the projects to update
<gizmodroid>
I know it was only certain projects that were broken for me
<spassbold>
could there be a workaround? for most people it seems to work?
<customminer>
current server software is an older linux release, right? so we need to ask boinc devs to push a linux release? then get the boinc projects to update?
<Katiee>
I'm going to wait before posting the new github issue. I want to track which projects this is affecting and log all the cpids and users having the issue
<yoyo[RKN]>
enabled edge traversal, lets see what happens overnight
<Katiee>
then I'll do a pastebin dump and create the issue on github
<spassbold>
cool!
<Sander96_XPS13>
yoyo[RKN]: Let us know
<Gary760>
ty Gizmo
<Sander96_XPS13>
Katiee: It's a fucking disaster lol
<spassbold>
yes if it involves only some projects it would be enough at first to disable these projects
<DrakeShady>
nvmnd. im not in sync
<Andydrew23>
thats no shit
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<customminer>
Katiee: Sounds good, keep us updated? We'll back you up on github!
<Sander96_XPS13>
Katiee Is it not possible to somehow change your own host CPID by re-adding it or anything?
<Sander96_XPS13>
and do that until you're good
<Sander96_XPS13>
and not overlapping
<gizmodroid>
wuprop, citizen science, seti, SZTAKI Desktop Grid, and poem were all broken for me
<Katiee>
i dont know, the server picks the host cpid.
<Sander96_XPS13>
how does it pick it, with the old software that is
<Katiee>
you would have to change one of the variables that is used
<gizmodroid>
denis, einstein, lhc worked well
<Sander96_XPS13>
yeah
<Sander96_XPS13>
but what are the variables
<Sander96_XPS13>
It's probably possible
<Katiee>
the thing is
<Katiee>
this is what the BOINC wiki says about host cpids
<Katiee>
"Cross-project identification of hosts
<Katiee>
Each host generates an internal cross-project ID, which is the MD5 of the concatenation of its domain name, IP address, free disk space, and a timestamp. This is reported to the projects to which the host is attached. The projects convert it to an external cross-project ID by hashing it with the owner's email address (this is intended to prevent spoofing). The external ID is exported in
<Katiee>
statistics files.
<Katiee>
Whenever a scheduler reply indicates that it has generated a new host record (e.g. because a bad RPC seqno suggests that this is a duplicate host) the client generates a new internal host CPID."
<Katiee>
that is obivious completely false..
<Sander96_XPS13>
LOL
<Sander96_XPS13>
yeah
<Sander96_XPS13>
IP address free disk space and timestamp
<Sander96_XPS13>
wouldnt be this widespread then
<Sander96_XPS13>
and generating a new one
<Sander96_XPS13>
nope
<customminer>
bring that up in the github issue - that the wiki is also inaccurate
<Katiee>
I will, i did in that old issue
<Katiee>
but of course the boinc dev just ignored it
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<Juhzuri>
Katiee: So for me, I donated hours to science for this issue (\o/) and should nuke local config and resync or?
<Katiee>
Juhzuri, i dont think theres anything u can do to fix it, but u can try
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<gizmodroid>
would it do any good to solo mine until it gets sorted?
<gizmodroid>
andydrew23 you'll know what its like to be in debt and have no hope of ever escaping IT
<Juhzuri>
Katiee: Momentarily.
<Asp>
whoa
<Asp>
magic
<gizmodroid>
no wait, that's just me
<xarious>
Thanks spassbold!
<jahjah>
thanks spassbold <3
<tristanupsha>
woah, it's pouring. thank you
<Andydrew23>
college is free dawg ;)
<gizmodroid>
hot dang spassbold
<Bouowmx>
^.^
<CptFlashbang>
thanks!
<Sander96_XPS13>
celebrating the workaround
<Gary760>
ty
<Andydrew23>
gizmodroid ill be debt free :)
<gizmodroid>
not when you are male, middle-class, white, and american
<WyerByter>
Thanks spassbold
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<Katiee>
well thats strange Juhzuri
<Andydrew23>
thanks spassbold
<Katiee>
your host CPID is still different on the xml as it is on the project..
<Sander96_XPS13>
premature celebration?
<Katiee>
ugh why is BOINC so shit..
<Juhzuri>
Katiee: See the previous host ID on line 9?
<Katiee>
yea its the same tho
<Katiee>
<host_cpid>2f6ed151afd3a538790476581145db77</host_cpid> and <previous_host_cpid>2f6ed151afd3a538790476581145db77</previous_host_cpid>
<Katiee>
lol..
<Katiee>
this is your REAL host cpid from the project itself: <host_cpid>fa69f8a69d7221acd82a439320856a00</host_cpid>
<Sander96_XPS13>
klmdsfmwjhernsdkjfk
<Sander96_XPS13>
lskdfwejhrsndf
<Katiee>
i just dont get it..
<Sander96_XPS13>
lkmkthyrktyjnp
<Andydrew23>
"im gonna drop a bomb morty, whole fresh, whole fresh start morty, im just gonna start it all over"
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<Juhzuri>
Katiee: Maybe because I haven't restarted boinc since I attached to manager. That file could be behind
<Sander96_XPS13>
that was my face on my keyboard
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<Katiee>
it shouldn't be Juhzuri
<Juhzuri>
Katiee: As in, correct CPID may still need to be written in from memory.
<Katiee>
that file should alway be uptodate
<Katiee>
its what is sent to the pool when u sync
<Juhzuri>
Katiee: Well I'll restart just in case and *only* restart.
<Katiee>
its what the pool uses to do EVERYTHING
<RoyalPhay>
hello
<spassbold>
hi Phay
<Katiee>
the local CPIDs should be updated whenever a project updates in the BOINC client
<Katiee>
so u dont need to restart BOINC
<Katiee>
just force an update to the project
<Juhzuri>
Katiee: You're right. :-/
<Sander96_XPS13>
:-\
<Katiee>
im just gonna have to rewrite a lot of code..
<Katiee>
theres no way around this
<RoyalPhay>
:c
<Sander96_XPS13>
Unless the cpid is the same because none of the variables have changed
<Sander96_XPS13>
but that doesn't mean we can't change one
<Juhzuri>
Katiee: I'm so sorry. D:
<Randomacts>
Are you fucking sorry?
<Randomacts>
=p
<spassbold>
but is rewriting code enough or do you also depend on boinc devs? and is it not enough when he vould join with the project?
<Juhzuri>
Randomacts: I am. I truly am.
<Katiee>
why are you sorry Juhzuri? xD You helped track the issue, I am very thankful
<Katiee>
!tip Juhzuri 100
<GRCtip>
Katiee tipped Juhzuri 100 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<Randomacts>
woah
<Randomacts>
hah
<Sander96_XPS13>
:)
<Andydrew23>
"i gotcha a dollar"
<RoyalPhay>
eh. I don't wanna be here right now. later all
<Juhzuri>
Umm. Wow.... Thanks!
<Sander96_XPS13>
Congrats Juhzuri
<Randomacts>
it feels like more then a dollar with GRC =p
<Sander96_XPS13>
Later RoyalPhay
<Katiee>
I dunno yet spassbold, I'll have to spend a lot of time refactoring the code before I know for sure
<Katiee>
its been ages since I've even looked at that code x.x
<spassbold>
ok good luck Katiee :)
<Andydrew23>
it does. lol my heart rate increases every time i get 1
<gizmodroid>
so i've been spinning up some ubuntu cloud vps's
<pakaran>
hey
<pakaran>
from apt:
<gizmodroid>
does it matter what version of boinc
<pakaran>
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<pakaran>
I don't know if the admin who handles the dailies is on here. It might even be an apt bug.
<Katiee>
I actually had an idea of rewriting the code awhile back, to make things.. work differently. I think it will solve this issue as well.
<Katiee>
I'll have to basically start a new beta version tho xD
<Katiee>
Gridcoin.co Pool (beta) (beta).. ugh
<gizmodroid>
because the default repo has boinc 7.2.42
<Sander96_XPS13>
Katiee What if the person with the issue changes the name of their CPU through regedit and then tries to get a new Host CPID? Could that work if host cpids are based on CPU name?
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<Katiee>
well according to the boinc dev, he only just added cpu name as one of the variables
<Katiee>
so it wouldnt matter with these older projects
<Katiee>
and the issue seems to be more then just overlapping cpids on the project servers
<Katiee>
its also the fact that the BOINC client isnt updating the cpids in the xml files
<Juhzuri>
CPID is a "long random string" not a hash per se, right?
<Katiee>
its a UUID
<spassbold>
but still to keep all this in relation: The whole problem is some people not being able to join some projects with the pool
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<Peppernrino>
who's beta-blocking Katiee?
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<Juhzuri>
Katiee: I guess I can do a replace all in files for that CPID with the new one. And see? >.>
<Sander96_XPS13>
maybe ask the boinc dev if he knows how someone could change the host cpid for themselves
<numb162>
about how often does the pool stake?
<jhehahnh>
!balance
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
jhehahnh, please use /msg GRCtip balance as Tipbot will no longer respond to commands in channel except for !rain and !tip.
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<Sander96_XPS13>
numb162 Probably close to every day now
<numb162>
awesome!
<Katiee>
wont matter Juhzuri, the xml files should be updated from BOINC before being sent to the account manger
<numb162>
pool popped off
<Katiee>
to stop people from exploiting the xml files