<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by spassbold - Content type: unknown
<spassbold>
it just got removed from being seen as a thread on reddi
<spassbold>
t
<Randomacts>
ah thanks spassbold
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<Katiee>
DrakeShady yes it should sort itself out after the code rewrites, but I am unsure how long it is going to take me to get it up and running. I will have to test it a lot before pushing it live as well.
<DrakeShady>
alright. setting up the pool is easier than BAM, so ill just tell them to stick it out. thx Katiee
<tiggs>
I dont see this in my tools- Now go to "Tools > Use account manager..." and enter "http://pool.gridcoin.co" in the "Account manager URL" box.
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by tiggs - Content type:
<Randomacts>
Katiee, So.. life is hell atm then?
<gizmodroid>
Sweet, I'm in the top 40 rankings on the pool :)
<tiggs>
sync with statsbam/add project/stop stats bam/cpu benchmarks/retry/event log is all i see in tools
<Katiee>
DrakeShady if they are getting the failed to add/insert error, just tell them to switch projects
<customminer>
spassbold: that dude's a right dick
<DrakeShady>
Katiee, I dont think they got hit at all. luck them
<DrakeShady>
yesterday a lot of people were having the CPID issues. I dont think they had issues, but I just wanted to check in case any came up
<Katiee>
ah
<Katiee>
yea it doesnt effect everyone
<DrakeShady>
I know I personally got hit
<tiggs>
that was the fix katiee to close bam stats i see all new stuff in tools now
<tiggs>
:-)
<Katiee>
DrakeShady: im spending all night tomorrow and all day sunday trying to get a temp workaround up, before I start on the massive code rewrites for a permanent solution, but no promises (on the temp workaround).
<Katiee>
tiggs: great :D Let me know if you need anymore help
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<DrakeShady>
awesome. I love the work you do. Keep it up Katiee
<Mouna>
need halp
<Mouna>
pls
<Katiee>
Whats up Mouna?
<Mouna>
wallet wont sync
<Mouna>
i downloaded blocks
<Mouna>
still wont sync
<Katiee>
WHOA
<Katiee>
the CCT admin just posted on my pool thread
<Katiee>
lol
<Katiee>
daaaaamn
<Katiee>
Mouna: what block are you currently on?
<Mouna>
493927
<gizmodroid>
katiee: apparently he reads it when people reports posts haha
<DrakeShady>
Katiee thats awesome, finally getting some real help
<omnibusinc>
lol, holy shit, that post was great
<Katiee>
and it hasnt been going up any Mouna?
<DrakeShady>
oh no, thats the wrong thread. still, impressive
<Mouna>
nope
<Katiee>
try restarting the wallet
<Katiee>
sometimes it freezes
<Katiee>
but it will usually sort itself out, just give it some more time
<Mouna>
just had 1 connection
<Mouna>
then is went away
<spassbold>
Mouna: please also make sure your wime is synced and no firewall is blocking connections
<spassbold>
if both these things are ok waiting should solve it
<DrakeShady>
kinda too much like a moble site, but thats how things are going
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<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Is it raining time? 1 GRC for 10 lucky users every 3 hours! Don't forget to tip me to keep the rain going!
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
!rain 10 10
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! [-SaRaFiNa-] rained 1 GRC on John-123, SvartH, Respig_, ss7, RTMoney_, ahmed_, Cartoonman, stevils, Mithian, TheLostBoy! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<DrakeShady>
!tip [-SaRaFiNa-] 30
<GRCtip>
DrakeShady tipped [-SaRaFiNa-] 30 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<Phay>
my balls hurt :\
<Phay>
prob have cancer
<Mouna>
!help
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Mouna, sending commands via PM.
<Mouna>
should i upgrade my wallet?
<gizmodroid>
i keep second guessing my projects
<alfredc7>
how do you withdraw coins from bam! =
<DrakeShady>
yeah. its best to keep your wallet up to date
<gizmodroid>
I've got tons of CPU's at my disposal
<gizmodroid>
pretty much no GPU
<DrakeShady>
you cant withdraw coins from BAM, they will be staked in your wallet
<alfredc7>
so how do you connect your wallet to bam then?
<gizmodroid>
currently have LHC set up as top priority, but when it runs out, I can't decide on the 2nd project
<vega30000>
phay wb
<Mouna>
i wonder
<Mouna>
!balance
<DrakeShady>
gizmodroid try to pick unpopular projects, there's less competition
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Mouna, please use /msg GRCtip balance as Tipbot will no longer respond to commands in channel except for !rain and !tip.
<Mouna>
oh
<spassbold>
alfredc7 : with your email
<Mouna>
i tried to see if i had some from when i was still using irc
<spassbold>
see tutorial on gridcoin.us
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<gizmodroid>
drakeshady, that's what I can't decide
<gizmodroid>
a less common project that has steady work
<Mouna>
!rain 12 2
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Mouna rained 6 GRC on zerolint, jordam! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<alfredc7>
!rain
<GRCtip>
Usage: !rain <amount> [max users]
<alfredc7>
!rain 12 2
<GRCtip>
Sorry alfredc7, you don't have enough funds (you're 8.54699731 GRC short).
<vega30000>
ty alfredc7
<vega30000>
:-)
<gizmodroid>
keep bouncing around
<gizmodroid>
maybe atlas?
<Mouna>
welp wont let me upgrade
<DrakeShady>
Mouna: the wallet?
<gizmodroid>
or maybe I just leave it on citizen science
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by DrakeShady - Content type: text/html
<DrakeShady>
post-installation section
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<WyerByter>
!price
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Requesting information from exchanges...
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Bittrex: Last 0.00002608 | Bid 0.00002695 | Ask 0.00002806
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
C-CEX: Last 0.00002885 | Bid 0.00002795 | Ask 0.00002885
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Poloniex: Last 0.00002832 | Bid 0.00002785 | Ask 0.00002832
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Cryptopia: Last 0.00002700 | Bid 0.00002400 | Ask 0.00003010
<Mouna>
theyre all there so yap
<DrakeShady>
are you synced up?
<Mouna>
nope
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<DrakeShady>
broadcasted a beacon?
<Mouna>
yup
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<DrakeShady>
what block is your client on?
<DrakeShady>
!blockchain
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<Mouna>
just reseted
<DrakeShady>
the client might not show active connections unless you've downloaded all the blocks.
<Mouna>
it says its out of sync tho
<DrakeShady>
can that means its probably still downloading blocks
<Mouna>
at 0 connections?
<tiggs>
i think i just got it all setup for the pool do i need to send a beacon also? or just wait now that i think im in the pool. CPID says investor foundation pool also no mature coins no coins to stake. I did the asia faucet for 0.22 GRC (just got synced up)
<omnibusinc>
I've had my wallet client running all day, and it's been out of sync almost all day. Right now it has 48 active connections, and 504516 Blocks, but is out of sync...
<DrakeShady>
Pool users dont have to send a beacon. CPID will be investor
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by _47an - PiGrid - get rewarded for helping research projects at home by Maximilian W. — Kickstarter
<Mouna>
having a tough time on what i should buy
<Mouna>
more sdc or grc
<_47an>
what is sdc?
<Mouna>
shadow cash
<Mouna>
but anyways i forgot who it was but they told me if i wanted to help pump frc
<Mouna>
grc
<tiggs>
Do i now wait for the asia faucet coins to mature then my stake will no longer say not staking because you dont mature coins? i think im on the last step!
<Mouna>
this was last year tho
<DrakeShady>
tiggs: when your coins mature you will begin to stake
<Phay>
ayyy
<Phay>
shaved
<Phay>
we win
<Phay>
time to get dinner now
<Phay>
fuck you all. I'm out
<tiggs>
thanks for all the help guys! i really appreciate it
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<omnibusinc>
DrakeShady what constitutes 'mature' coins?
<DrakeShady>
its a short time period. off the top of my head im going to say 16 hours
<DrakeShady>
sorry about that, had to restart opera
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<customminer>
DrakeShady: what like you want to make an android wallet for gridcoin?
<DrakeShady>
yeah
<aepksbuck>
I'm curious about investing, but since most of the discussion here is about getting boinc and wallets set up, are discussions on how to invest or purchase GRC with traditional currency fair game here?
<DrakeShady>
yeah channel is for anything gricoin related
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by KatBot - Katiee's GRC Magnitude/Earnings Calculator
<Randomacts>
"The page you requested is currently unavailable because the statistics are being updated.
<Randomacts>
The statistics update will finish in about 0 minutes 0 seconds." .... thanks IBM.. *refreshes* ... shrug
<aepksbuck>
Alrighty. Here goes. Is there any convenient way to directly purchase GRC, or do you have to purchase BTC first? And if we have to purchase BTC, do you need to have a bitcoin wallet? And if we have to use a bitcoin wallet, what's a good one for linux?
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<DrakeShady>
you can purchase GRC directly through exchanges like c-cex, among others
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by Peppernrino - CoinURL - Redirect
<aepksbuck>
So I could theoretically flip back and forth between BTC and GRC and try to turn a profit without having my own wallet? That sounds...tricky.
<fkinglag>
!priceall
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Sorry, !priceall can only be requested once every 20 mins! 697 seconds left before !priceall can be requested again.
<DrakeShady>
yup! people do it all the time
<jordam>
aepksbuck, working for me
<jordam>
Granted, im in at the sub-bitcoin level lol
<jordam>
But I came in with the reddit article. Gridcoin got me started up with general crypto day trading actually
<jordam>
At Sub-bitcoin levels I'm not sure a buy and hold strategy makes much sense with GRC right now though
<jordam>
Active day trading would get you a lot more entertainment and experience out of the mix if thats your goal
<customminer>
jahjah: Be careful - gcrcoin is not associated with gridcoin in any way. Their ticker is GCR, ours is GRC.
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<jahjah>
i know that's what i find so funny
<Mouna>
!BLOCK
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Requesting information from GRC Seed Nodes...
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Resource is not available: 404
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Resource is not available: 404
<vega30000>
!blocks
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Requesting information from GRC Seed Nodes...
<Mouna>
:c
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Resource is not available: 404
<KatBot>
GridCoin.co Node: 504934
<KatBot>
Gridcoin Asia Block Explorer: 504934
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Resource is not available: 404
<customminer>
grcnode504934
<customminer>
kl
<aepksbuck>
jordam: I've been watching prices for a while and hoping that it'll drop back down to >100 GRC/USD again real quick so I can maximize my initial capital. Shame it's doing so well. ;)
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<RoyalPhay>
hmm
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<nepd>
Hi all - just got my first Pool payment today. (.02 GRC) -- Thinking about buying a few GRC to get things going... has anyone deposited USD at C-Cex before?
<nepd>
Also... If I keep running BOINC, my magnitude (and payments) should increase, right?
<jordam>
aepksbuck
<jordam>
aepksbuck
<jordam>
aepksbuck, I'm not sure thats going to happen. Look at historical data for coins that have slowed down now. Hype provides new baselines that take a long time to fall usually.
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<jordam>
Oh lol, guess the paste was working, I just had a newline hooked on :P
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<jordam>
Anyways, I'm maximizing my capitol and refining strategies by day trading across the 50+ alts with a tiny bit of capitol. Its stressful as crap though.
<newToGRC>
hey guys
<newToGRC>
my wallet was in sync today
<newToGRC>
and now it's suddenly out of sync
<newToGRC>
how can I fix this?
<jordam>
Doing pretty well though. I'm up 15% in like 5 days.
<Katiee>
nepd: Yes, it can take at least 2 weeks before you mag will level out and stablize
<customminer>
nept: not deposited usd at c-cex before, I've always gone usd -> btc -> grc in the past
<aepksbuck>
nepd: I'm just about to start the same thing, but the deposit options were unfamiliar to me.
<customminer>
newToGRC: How long has it been out of sync? Is your computer time correct (sync with time servers)? Do you have connections?
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<newToGRC>
11 connections, it's been out for a few hours
<customminer>
try reseting the client?
<newToGRC>
ok
<newToGRC>
after that, its just a matter of waiting right?
<aepksbuck>
jordam: I know, I was just hoping. 50+? That does sound stressful.
<Mouna>
!blocks
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Requesting information from GRC Seed Nodes...
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Resource is not available: 404
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Resource is not available: 404
<d3v_nu11>
hello hello
<Mouna>
!block
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Requesting information from GRC Seed Nodes...
<customminer>
your balance will show when you sync fully
<newToGRC>
mmm, OK
<newToGRC>
I'll save it on a USB key
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<customminer>
encrypted usb*
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<customminer>
or an encrypted volume on the usb
<jordam_internets>
Keep getting dc'd
<newToGRC>
what about an encrypted rar on my usb?
<newToGRC>
will that do the trick?
<jordam_internets>
d3v_nu11 Thats the idea. I have this plan. I'm downloading every trade on poloniex that's ever closed. I'm going to use a machine learning technique to organically develop strategies and run them through trading simulations to find the best bots.
<customminer>
newToGRC: yeah that'd work
<d3v_nu11>
jordam_internets, best bots?
<jordam_internets>
d3v_nu11, Sorry I've been getting dc'd a lot. Your statement 'Is that something you can eventually automate when confident its g2g?', that was directed at me right?
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<customminer>
think it was directed at pool payouts
<jordam_internets>
My bad, I was getting every other line back then. Thanks for clarification :)
<comp615>
How do I find my BOINC email? I have a hunch the email I use for all my projects may not actually be the one I need for a CPID sync with the Gridcoin client
<Katiee>
d3v_nu11: They are sort of automatic already, but yes, it will be 100% automatic soon
<comp615>
I guess while I'm at it, the other question was if it's possible my CPID wouldn't get picked up if I hadn't finished a work packet while on the gridcoin team? (I've been doing BOINC for over a decade otherwise :-?)
<Katiee>
im doing a massive code rewrite of the pool, it will be included in that
<d3v_nu11>
jordam_internets: no worries I went with it :)
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<d3v_nu11>
Katiee: thats awesome, thanks for all your efforts with the pool! Can I ask what the code base/infrastructure is? I'm a software eng
<Katiee>
php, mysql, some javascript
<Mouna>
my wallet wont go past 20 blocks :c
<Mouna>
!block
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Requesting information from GRC Seed Nodes...
<nepd>
I downloaded BOINC on an android device... is it not possible to use the pool there?
<hansthered>
when I say "rebuild blockchain" -> "download blocks" I see a loading bar, it fills up quickly then just sits there. when I click "upgrade" the program just closes
<caraka>
Mouna, I understand that this is normal for eset - because it is signed or something
<comp615>
Hmmm, is boincdatadir= supposed to point to the BOINC project data dir, or the BOINC installation itself
<caraka>
hansthered: download the snapshot manually and manually install it
<caraka>
boincdatadir should point to your project data files
<caraka>
You don;t need boincdatadir if boinc is installed to default locations in Windows and debian based nix
<comp615>
I'm at boincappdir=C:\\Program Files\\BOINC\\
<comp615>
Still not getting a cpid pickup, might just need more time but trying to debug
<hansthered>
Anyone else here on OSX El Capitan?
<caraka>
did you install boinc in the standard way on windows comp615? if so, remove the line completely and restart
<comp615>
It should pick up even in pool mode no? @caraka will try that...I honestly doing remember, but I moved my data dir so thought i might need it:
<comp615>
boincdatadir=G:\\BOINC_data
<comp615>
boincappdir=C:\\Program Files\\BOINC\\
<caraka>
comp615: Are you in the pool? If so, your cpid will never show - you are an investor
<caraka>
aepksbuck: yes - if you do both you will have both
<Cartoonman>
or %appdata%\GridcoinResearch
<Cartoonman>
its in the root of it
<Cartoonman>
not in a subdir
<caraka>
there you go Mouna - unzip it in there, overwriting what's there
<Cartoonman>
not your wallet
<Cartoonman>
;)
<Mouna>
got it
<caraka>
yeah, make sure unzip doesn;t create a subfolder
<caraka>
or use it to your advantage
<Mouna>
access denied
<caraka>
now I'm out of my depth Mouna, because I don;t use Windows. :/
<caraka>
customminer?
<hansthered>
Anyone here on OSX?
<customminer>
access denied? from doing what?
<caraka>
Peppernrino u still up?
<caraka>
copying the snapshot
<customminer>
hansthered: there's an osx support thread on cryptocointalk
<caraka>
into its place
<caraka>
^
<customminer>
Mouna: Access denied when extracting the contents of the zip into the appdata folder? Is the client closed/not running? If not, close it.
<customminer>
Mouna: Try extracting to a different folder, and copying the files into the gridcoinresearch appdata folder?
<customminer>
could different ideas
<Cartoonman>
hansthered i have a mac but i dont use it for gridcoin. why?
<customminer>
If that still fails, you could check the read/write permissions of the appdata folder.
<hansthered>
Hey @cartoonman @customminer thanks. My wallet just isn't downloading the blockchain and crashes when I try to update. I will visit the thread
<Phay>
uh what
<Phay>
customminer
<caraka>
hansthered: that feature doesn't work in any posix enviroenment - it must be done manually
<Phay>
sEp is in irpg
<caraka>
yes - and he is here too
<Phay>
oh what. did he like come back?
<caraka>
he did. currently away, but here :P
<Phay>
what time zone is it on
<Phay>
freaky
<caraka>
Singapore
<vega30000>
7 hours plus
<Phay>
so he's an Asian?
<Phay>
one of those Asians
<caraka>
That would make me a Polynesian by that logic :/
<Phay>
lol
<vega30000>
like u US :-)
<Peppernrino>
samoan
<Phay>
peppernrino
<vega30000>
phay is US
<caraka>
Phay is north carolina
<Phay>
look at the B(s) in the users list
<caraka>
we're watching him... O.O
<Phay>
what do you see lol
<vega30000>
00
<Mouna>
assertion failed
<Phay>
*insertion
<Mouna>
abort retry ignore
<Phay>
override. lube
<caraka>
Win experts chime in
<vega30000>
lube again
<caraka>
except Phay
* Phay
forces himself inside of caraka
<vega30000>
:-)
<Phay>
caraka. can you please help me?
<caraka>
take the lube to the otc channel please
<Phay>
I need ubuntu help
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<caraka>
what kind of ubuntu help?
<vega30000>
i using ubuntu
<Phay>
and no one here uses ubuntu
<caraka>
??
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<Phay>
I am setting up bacula
<caraka>
I do, vega does, customminer does
<Phay>
no you don't
<Phay>
shut up
<Phay>
anyway
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<caraka>
probably fewer use bacula :P
<Phay>
duh
<vega30000>
!google bacula
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
google Bacula | Open Source Backup, Enterprise ready, Network Backup ... http://blog.bacula.org/
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
google Bacula Systems data backup, restore and disaster recovery software http://www.baculasystems.com/
<caraka>
Yes, if you manually mount it you will have to declare the mount point
<Phay>
downs
<caraka>
!tip maokoto 100,000
<GRCtip>
Sorry caraka, you don't have enough funds (you're 96.81799396 GRC short).
<Phay>
so is there a way to just have it "mount" without the manual mnt point?
<maokoto>
O_o
<maokoto>
!tip caraka 200000000000000
<GRCtip>
Sorry maokoto, you don't have enough funds (you're 199999999999999 GRC short).
<caraka>
yes, by making an entry in /etc/fstab - and again you will have to declare the mount point
<caraka>
if it is in fstab, it will mount automatically from then on
<Phay>
I should prob sleep tho instead
<Cartoonman>
yea u should
<Phay>
i've been up for 2 days I think
<Phay>
I can't remember
<Cartoonman>
yes u have
<caraka>
yes, it is close to EST sleep time
<Cartoonman>
yes you can't
<Phay>
I got up at... idk
<caraka>
or have you switched to EDT yet?
<Phay>
EDT?
<caraka>
yes, yoiu are on daylight savings oin the east coast
<Mouna>
snapshot fucked my wallet
<Phay>
huh?
<vega30000>
se on wallet
<caraka>
sorry Mouna. delete it all and restart. :/
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<Phay>
so I guess not everyone does the daylight savings shit
<caraka>
delete the snapshot stuff that is
<Cartoonman>
dont delete wallet.dat
<caraka>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
<vega30000>
save u wallet.dat
<Cartoonman>
i mean unless u wanna give away free money
<Phay>
"give away"
<Phay>
lose*
<caraka>
lose
<Cartoonman>
ya, to the lord of burn
<Mouna>
do i have to re sync?
<caraka>
yes, unfortunately
<Phay>
just penis
<Mouna>
im done
<Cartoonman>
gg
<Mouna>
fuck this
<Mouna>
i am done
<vega30000>
phay u windows user :-)
<Mouna>
deleteing my wallet dat
<Cartoonman>
lol? why
<caraka>
not if it has a balance Mouna
<caraka>
give it to someone....
<Mouna>
too late
<Cartoonman>
resyncing shouldn't take long
<vega30000>
hahaha
<Phay>
:I
<Mouna>
nope
<Cartoonman>
if you do it right lol
<Cartoonman>
but its all patience
<Mouna>
im pissed off already
<caraka>
Mouna was getting stuck on block 20
<Phay>
tip the world
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<Mouna>
bye
<Cartoonman>
was standard block downloads not working?
<Phay>
vye
<Phay>
bye
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<caraka>
it is a bitch to get started Mouna, I'll grant you that
<Phay>
^ too slow
<customminer>
:/
<Phay>
your fat fingers
<vega30000>
we losing one man
<Phay>
gj customminer
<Phay>
should have kicked me, but NOOOO
<caraka>
In nz mouna is a woman's name
<customminer>
wut
<Cartoonman>
is that a request phay
<Phay>
no
<customminer>
lol
<Phay>
don't please
<Cartoonman>
i think it was
<Cartoonman>
;)
<caraka>
I thought is was. shall I?
<Phay>
you should have kicked him before he left
<vega30000>
we losing a woman
<Phay>
that way it's like "NO, I fire you"
<customminer>
shame mouna left
<caraka>
yes
<Cartoonman>
yea :/
<Phay>
no
<customminer>
but it's pretty basic troubleshooting
<Phay>
oops, I mean yah
<Phay>
she dumb
<Phay>
and fat
<Cartoonman>
well to non-cs ppl, its daunting
<caraka>
Don;t let me help windows people. stop me before I kill again
<Cartoonman>
to us n3rds its trivial
<Phay>
like caraka's fingers
<Phay>
cartoonman
<Phay>
there was someone in here earlier who's password was erty2345
<Cartoonman>
um ok
<vega30000>
yeah to start the wallet ist hard work and need time
<vega30000>
-t
<Phay>
uh...
<vega30000>
ist = german
<vega30000>
is = en
<Phay>
fuck dis
<Phay>
I'm going to head
<vega30000>
u balls heard
<customminer>
there definetley are issues for new users, but with 800 new users there's going to be dozens of environments that gridcoin has not been tested in
<Phay>
*hurt
<caraka>
Go to bed Phay
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<Phay>
wb
<Phay>
800?
<Phay>
how do you know?
<Cartoonman>
how is the downloadblock snapshot currently managed?
<customminer>
Phay: several hundred joined the pool, then approx 250-300 joined the team (solo)
<Cartoonman>
is it continuously synced or just whenever someone feels like updating it
<customminer>
the downloadblock snapshot is Rob's domain
<Cartoonman>
hm
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<customminer>
I think a problem lies in me sharing a linux snapshot and a windows user using it, or vice versa
<caraka>
Maybe we could take that burden off of him...
<Cartoonman>
^
<Cartoonman>
distributed snapshots
<caraka>
No customminer, the snapshot is universal
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<Phay>
please durden me
<Phay>
matrix evil
<Phay>
run
<caraka>
as long as you closed the wallet when you made it
<customminer>
caraka: Yes and no.. someone could try and distribute snapshots with modified data.
<customminer>
really? hmm
<customminer>
oh
<Phay>
no
<Phay>
oh no
<customminer>
that's where i've made the mistake then haha
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Is it raining time? 1 GRC for 10 lucky users every 3 hours! Don't forget to tip me to keep the rain going!
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
!rain 10 10
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! [-SaRaFiNa-] rained 1 GRC on B0iNcEr, pro, TedFx, TechnoTony_MAIN, gizmodroid, aepksbuck, onkel_jim, bfroyo, anon7mous3, vega30000! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<DimiFW>
!block
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Requesting information from GRC Seed Nodes...
<Johnnyc1423>
I'm new to this, when I tried to sync with the gridcoin.co pool on the boinc manager is gave me this message"Failed to add a project to the pool's database. Please report to Katie on #GridCoin IRC"
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<Yoduza>
hello
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Is it raining time? 1 GRC for 10 lucky users every 3 hours! Don't forget to tip me to keep the rain going!
<Johnnyc1423>
Its says "CPID: Foundation Pol: New_Campaign_BOINCSTATS_advertisemnet_campaign"
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
!rain 10 10
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! [-SaRaFiNa-] rained 1 GRC on vasifumi, Tahvok, mfgrim, Katiee, oakvision, tristanupsha, sbits, Mumps, alfabit, rvina! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<patanjali>
is it still syncing?
<Johnnyc1423>
yes
<patanjali>
that's why
<Johnnyc1423>
how long does it take to sync
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<patanjali>
when it's done it should list it, or say investor if you are in the pool
<patanjali>
hours
<Johnnyc1423>
ive been waiting two days
<patanjali>
hmm, did you download the blocks in the client and add the nodes?
<Johnnyc1423>
yeah
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<patanjali>
i've only been doing this a few days myself, that's the extent of my knowledge, sorry
<Johnnyc1423>
your fine! thanks for the help, I would tip you if I had any coins haha
<patanjali>
no problem, everyones is asleep i guess
<Johnnyc1423>
I'll probably ask for help in the morning
<Smiley>
wtf my server doesn't have boinc installed either
<Smiley>
utter fail
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<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Is it raining time? 1 GRC for 10 lucky users every 3 hours! Don't forget to tip me to keep the rain going!
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
!rain 10 10
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! [-SaRaFiNa-] rained 1 GRC on Peppernrino, itzapizza, alfredcl7, Sander96, snacho, stevils, Elun, p41nk1ll3r, cell, d_o_c! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<genesith>
so I started mining a week ago but I was away from my computer for a good time (was off for most of the time)
<genesith>
I watched the tutorial, followed it and got my client to download blocks
<cbr>
grctip is having trouble with floating point calculation too but thats an old old problem, might need a bit of an overhaul. Or possibly a partial netsplit caused the lag ?
<genesith>
CPID was investor then foundation and now its a code
<genesith>
but whats up with the beacon
<genesith>
the tutorial kinda just says "We'll wait 2 days and we have a beacon now"
<cbr>
you have to send a beacon manually
<cbr>
if you have a log initial number of grc
<genesith>
and this is the thing taht allows my mined data into coins?
<cbr>
i had about 10-50grc for the first 2-3 weeks
<cbr>
nothing happened until i sent a beacon to get me into the neural network
<cbr>
then i started getting por a few weeks later
<cbr>
patience is the key but more starter grc also speeds things up
<genesith>
uh huh.....
<cbr>
you can start with just 1 grc but it'll take like 3 months to get por
<genesith>
the por also takes that long?
<cbr>
if you hang around in here people will give you some starter coind
<genesith>
I got some to start
<vega30000>
!tip genesith 1.5
<genesith>
have 1.18
<GRCtip>
vega30000 tipped genesith 1.5 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<cbr>
mine was getting por after about 4 weeks iirc
<vega30000>
dont lie
<cbr>
!tip vega30000 0.25
<GRCtip>
cbr tipped vega30000 0.25 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<genesith>
why haha
<genesith>
got it through some sharing event on here
<vega30000>
sitz send me u adress with pm and send u you first 100 GRC
<vega30000>
genesith
<cbr>
#grincoin-games used to give out coins for !hunt !fish !scramble and puzzle solving etc
<cbr>
not sure if the bot still works in there atm
<holmea>
afaik the bot is working again in #gridcoin-games
<genesith>
so the beacon is something I do manually , and the por happens when I accumulated a lot?
<cbr>
holmea ah great, i'll get the missus on it to save her sending my fb scrabble requests all day :)
<holmea>
the beacon should go automatically but sometimes it can take a while so you can do it manually
<cbr>
my/me
<holmea>
your wallet needs to be unlocked
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<Montec>
Mornin'
<genesith>
should I check on unchekc staking only?
<cbr>
i did a manual beacon with about 25grc took about 2 weeks delay to start getting por
<genesith>
should I check or uncheck "for staking only"?
<cbr>
but my RAC is huge so I might have overwhelmed the system lol
<dc7d>
genesith: check
<cbr>
staking happens automatically, hadn't seen that option, where is it ?
<dc7d>
sorry: for beacon uncheck
<genesith>
when you unlock wallet
<cbr>
ah ok, only even did that once
<dc7d>
only for staking check
<dc7d>
or unlock in console: walletpassphrase <yourpass> 500
<genesith>
well I now have 101 coins due to a very generous @vega30000
<cbr>
should get por withink 10 days or so after sending the beacon, there is a debug command to do it manually
<cbr>
within
<dc7d>
send beacon manually in console: execute advertisebeacon force
<genesith>
ah okay, so the beacon is something thats automatic, but it can be done manually
<cbr>
execute advertisebeacon
<cbr>
in the debug window
<vega30000>
welcome on board
<genesith>
okay got a transaction of minus .11 e-3 grc
<cbr>
I take it you have joint the gridcoin team on all your noic projects and with the same email address ?
<genesith>
and yea
<vega30000>
yes gridcoin team and the adress . dont forget it
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<Beakerboy>
Anyone know how to prevent the BOINC manager from auto-opening on OS X? I know how to configure the app to only run durring certain hours, but my wife is annoyed with the icon in the running-program bar when she logs in.theblazehen
<holmea>
options/other options, uncheck start at login?
<holmea>
sorry if that's not it, i'm on windows ^^
<Beakerboy>
Forget it..Figured it out.
<Beakerboy>
I've been looking for it for a while, but, of course, just when I ask, I open up the correct system setting.
<HrTrocner>
thanks much cbr ^^ im still building up my initial balance. at which balance should i aim to start solo por? (or is pooled computation always the best option? =P)
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<newToGRC>
!priceall
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Requesting information from exchanges...
<Sander96>
go back to your config file, and add those
<Sander96>
separate lines
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<Quedra>
hello
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<Sander96>
Afternoon Quedra
<Sander96>
once you've done that just reboot the wallet doc123
<doc123>
ok added these extra nodes
<kopykat>
lo all
<doc123>
do i have to restart the client so it reads them in?
<Sander96>
yeah
<Sander96>
!rainactive 2 10
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Sander96 rained 0.2 GRC on active users bob21, teslax, kopykat, dc7d, doc123, jayhell, Quedra, jahjah, LonelyFox, JackS! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<coinictus>
!info
<jahjah>
choochoo
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
coinictus, sending commands via PM.
<kopykat>
ty m8
<jahjah>
thank mr sander96
<doc123>
are gridcoins bitcoin compatible or is it a seperate currency?
<Sander96>
separate currency
<Sander96>
same as euro and dollars though
<Sander96>
you can exchange them
<doc123>
ok great
<vega30000>
!tip sanders96 0.5
<GRCtip>
Sorry vega30000, you don't have enough funds (you're 0.001656319999999989 GRC short).
<Sander96>
keep it :P
<Sander96>
and type my name right!
<doc123>
last question did i understand it correctly ALL whitelisted projects e.g. SETI, ATLAS, LHC and Asteroids are suitable for GRC right?
<Sander96>
Yes, every project we have on our whitelist at www.gridcoin.us
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by Sander96 - Content type: text/html
<doc123>
ok cool
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<Sander96>
So, sup everybody
<jamofox>
hey guys i got interesting question
<Sander96>
I might have an interesting answer then
<jamofox>
i have firewall which works as DHCP server. i decided to build NAS which will perform quite a bit of stuff.
<jamofox>
now i need NAS to work as DHCP server as well as DNS server. i need to take off DHCP off from my firewall. the question is, what happens to all the rules on firewall? everything goes to hell?
<jamofox>
it doesnt matter if i need to configure it completely again but it is still possible with that kind of setup ?
<Sander96>
but I'm sure somebody else here will know
<Sander96>
might want to just Google it :P
<jamofox>
ive but there is no simple answer. :D
<jamofox>
maybe ill just set my firewall to pick up DNS from NAS.
<jamofox>
more complicated but im more familiar with that kind of configure
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Is it raining time? 1 GRC for 10 lucky users every 3 hours! Don't forget to tip me to keep the rain going!
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
!rain 10 10
<GRCtip>
Sorry [-SaRaFiNa-], you don't have enough funds (you're 5.54451342 GRC short).
<customminer>
ThymineC: rebuild blockchain will delay you even further. Did you have connections? We're you stuck on a block?
<customminer>
Also, Morning people!
<dc7d>
Morning CM!
<ThymineC>
TBF I don't really know what I'm doing. What I've done is tried following the Gridcoin/BOINC setup guides - so far I've set up a BAM! account, signed up for the CPUGrid project and joined the Gridcoin team
<ThymineC>
Morning
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<xarious>
Hey guys, are there any other projects that have cool screensavers like SETI@home?
<ThymineC>
GPUGrid*
<Sander96>
WCG
<customminer>
Syncing will take a while to sync from 0, download blocks (run client as admin to accommodate feature) will speed things up, then you'll have like an hour sync left afterwards. Make sure you have connections to the network.
<ThymineC>
Oh this is new. I clicked "Download blocks" and a progress bar window appeared
<milkeater>
ThymineC - Downloading and syncing can take a little while.
<ThymineC>
It's at 20% already
<ThymineC>
Seems to be going pretty fast.
<milkeater>
It should download fairly fast, you will see that it says out of sync for possibly a while.
<ThymineC>
Ah, got you.
<ThymineC>
After that, I guess my wallet should be synced, and the tip that dc7d kindly offered should appear. Then I guess I can start working on GPUGrid
<milkeater>
Then there is staking, because this has PoS as part of it's underlying infrastructure
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<milkeater>
You will see that you will be able to start doing work right now actually if you open up BOINC Manager
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<milkeater>
You can go to an advanced view and show the tasks that are actually righting.
<milkeater>
I just don't believe you will earn anything from the staking aspect.
<ThymineC>
It says that work is suspended because "computer is in use", which I guess is just a simple setting I have to change
<ThymineC>
I'll do that now
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<milkeater>
Have you had a chance to watch this Gridcoin Tutorial on getting setup?
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by milkeater - How To: Gridcoin + BOINC + Windows 7 Installation (Part 1) - YouTube
<DFYX>
Yay, my gridcoin wallet is finally working again (I had some problems syncing in the last few days)
<ThymineC>
Watching it now, thanks
<milkeater>
You'll see in it that he mentions it took him 2 days until he had everything running and staking.
<milkeater>
Promise, patience is a key with this one.
<wip>
mine took 5 days
<milkeater>
But you are doing good for the world :)
<milkeater>
Yikes,
<Sander96>
!tip milkeater 1 I agree
<GRCtip>
Sander96 tipped milkeater 1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<Sander96>
!tip DFYX 1 congrats :P
<GRCtip>
Sander96 tipped DFYX 1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<Sander96>
!tip ThymineC 1 Good luck!
<GRCtip>
Sander96 tipped ThymineC 1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<DFYX>
Thanks!
<Sander96>
!tip wip 1
<GRCtip>
Sander96 tipped wip 1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<ThymineC>
Thanks mate :)
<Sander96>
Np :D
<milkeater>
Another comment for you guys, hanging out in this channel can often get you a handful of Gridcoin which you can withdraw to your address that will help with Staking as well as things called "Faucets"
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<genesith>
msg NickServ identify 1234
<genesith>
awk
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<ThymineC>
I mean, if I'm at 59% and then, say, my computer crashes or just the BOINC client, it won't start back at 0% will it?
<patanjali>
1234? I use the same code on my luggage!
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<Sander96>
deadlines are not always very strict btw
<Smiley>
ThymineC: depends when it last saved
<Smiley>
but why would it crash
<ThymineC>
Like if I just killed the BOINC client, for instance.
<ThymineC>
Or if I restart my computer
<Smiley>
why would you just kill it
<ThymineC>
Or really anything that would interrupt work being done
<Smiley>
allow it to die gracefully
<Smiley>
if you shutdown normally, nothing bad will happen
<ThymineC>
What about when restarting my computer?
<ThymineC>
Oh okay
<ThymineC>
Thanks
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<Smiley>
'what if a comet hit earth!? Would I loose my progress?'
<ThymineC>
I'm new to this and I was just wondering if it's safe to stop and start the BOINC client while it's running tasks
<alfredcl7>
yes they won't restart
<ThymineC>
Neat
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<alfredcl7>
just try not to restart your wallet too many times before it starts syncing normally
<ThymineC>
Okay
<alfredcl7>
I finally got my wallet working but were starting to lose hope
<alfredcl7>
think it depended on that i restarted it and didn't let it run
<atOm_47>
guys what does RAC and MAG(magnitude) mean in the projects page?
<milkeater>
Thymine, it looks like there is an option to shut down your BOINC manager. This may be the graceful exit you are looking for after Suspending your research in the client.
<milkeater>
So I think the answer may be solved, you are either minimizing or you have clicked "Continue Running Tasks" and "Do not show prompt again"
<ThymineC>
My room is starting to get a lot warmer haha
<brainiak005>
Yee :P
<milkeater>
Either way, good question ThymineC, I think we all learned something today :)
<alfredcl7>
btw what projects are you guys on?
<ThymineC>
cheers :)
<brainiak005>
Yeah, true!!
<ThymineC>
I'm on GPUGrid
<milkeater>
I was on POEM@Home from the video I followed
<alfredcl7>
haha yeah running two pc's 24/7 in here
<milkeater>
But after ThymineC mentioned BAM, I joined that and it has been really nice for finding new projects that I'm interested in.
<_47an>
Welcome to 30 Celsius club
<ThymineC>
I heard GPU-intensive projects have a good payoff, and I have two GTX 970s
<milkeater>
!price
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Requesting information from exchanges...
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Bittrex: Last 0.00002684 | Bid 0.00002616 | Ask 0.00002684
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
C-CEX: Last 0.00002885 | Bid 0.00002884 | Ask 0.00002885
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Poloniex: Last 0.00002697 | Bid 0.00002679 | Ask 0.00002743
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Cryptopia: Last 0.00002400 | Bid 0.00002400 | Ask 0.00003010
<alfredcl7>
oh so BAM let's you choose from more projects?
<milkeater>
It stands for Boinc Account Manager and only manages the BOINC projects in existence.
<milkeater>
It was a little bit more of an organized view for me to learn a little about the projects as well as how much work is available on them as well as how many people are currently working on them.
<ThymineC>
These BOINC projects are really well parallelised
<ThymineC>
My cores are each sharing workload evenly
<jahjah>
poloniex and bittrex trade the most grc, the other two are stagnant
<jahjah>
bittrex and polo are more accurate of the actual prices
<alfredcl7>
yeah but you will have to pay a load to get to exchange right?
<milkeater>
No
<milkeater>
You buy bitcoin and transfer to poloniex
<milkeater>
Whatever transfer fees are
<milkeater>
I used coinbase, was maybe one us dollar at the end of the day
<milkeater>
Bigger mistake was buying into GRC during the spike.....but I plan on hanging around so I suppose I don't mind
<alfredcl7>
yeah I used coinbase aswell
<alfredcl7>
lol did exactly the same
<milkeater>
I went in at 4500...u?
<alfredcl7>
4500?
<milkeater>
.00004500
<alfredcl7>
daamn
<alfredcl7>
hasn't it doubled since?
<milkeater>
It went up to close to the nines
<milkeater>
No, it's sitting at 0.00002697
<alfredcl7>
shit
<alfredcl7>
haha can you see afterwards what you bought them for?
<milkeater>
Yeah....big whoops, but I saw it at around 3k so I was like. "This is going to sky rocket". Only for about 30 minutes and by the time I had gotten everything in order, it was where it was and tanked.
<milkeater>
Yeah
<ThymineC>
Do any of you use TThrottle by the way?
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by ThymineC - TThrottle | eFMer
<milkeater>
In your transaction history
<milkeater>
If you look under Orders > My Trade History and Analysis
<alfredcl7>
1 grc is about 0.01 usd right now...
<milkeater>
It was a good learning lesson as now I am much more familiar with Candlesticks and other aspects of the system....and I didn't lose much at all, maybe 30 dollars at most.
<alfredcl7>
yeah i went into this thinking maybe i could make a few dollars but it's really not the point anymore
<alfredcl7>
ok i paid around 0.01 so don't think i've lost much
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<alfredcl7>
but you never know
<customminer>
Still 1/1000th the value of bitcoin.
<customminer>
So yeah, you never know..
<alfredcl7>
I paid 0.00002809 bitcoins per grc lol
<alfredcl7>
but i've invested a little in bitcoin aswell
<Smiley>
if grc hit bitcoin values, I'd be lolling hard
<alfredcl7>
yeah that will probably never happen but as you saw just by what that reddit post did
<alfredcl7>
we should all go out and advertise the shit out of grc ;)
<milkeater>
That was more pump and dump behavior. I was sitting in the chatroom and saw people dropping off like flies because of the time it took to get everything set up.
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<milkeater>
I don't think this is really going to be a get rich quick, or really even a get rich thing.....I think it just provides a means to drive research and create an incentivized system in doing so.
<jahjah>
right that's server 1 done
<brainiak005>
jahjah - what servers are you setting up?
<jahjah>
the quotes did indeed help brianiak005
<milkeater>
Think about how the internet was started amidst colleges trying to work more efficiently with one another after DARPA started using it for NORAD
<brainiak005>
nice!
<jahjah>
at the moment azure free trial servers brainiak005
<brainiak005>
haha, that's what I did all of yesterday too :P
<jahjah>
unsure whether it'd be more efficient to set up multiple A1 servers than a single A4 server
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by jahjah - Pricing Calculator
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<milkeater>
I would think it would depend on your project
<milkeater>
CPU efficiency of the project etc.
<alfredcl7>
i know that the purpose isn't for it to be a commercially used currency but the fact still remains that more people getting into it raises the price
<brainiak005>
I'm not sure either, I've done 2 A2's and 2 A1's so far
<brainiak005>
half towards solo, half towards the pool XD
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<milkeater>
I don't fully agree with more people getting involved raising the price. The value of Gridcoin from a currency perspective comes at the point of trading. I think that will come from volume people are willing to trade in.
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<milkeater>
If more people were trading on the exchanges, I would think that would raise the price.
<brainiak005>
and I think an easy link to make (not 100% valid though) is more people starting -> more people buying initial coins
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<Smiley>
i didn't buy my inital coins :O
<numb163>
!pool balance
<KatBot>
Requesting GridCoin.co Pool balance..
<KatBot>
Pool's Current Balance is @ 687.8770155595 GRC
<xms>
i think grc isa nice coin
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<brainiak005>
I didn't either, started mining for the pool :P
<Smiley>
it's cool it's got something behind it other than crypto therefore value!
<numb163>
Is it recommended to buy some initial coins to get a headstart?
<Smiley>
brainiak005: i got gifted and am investor D:
<Smiley>
!tip numb163 1
<alfredcl7>
yeah not 100% correlation but just like myself new members might think that they can make a few dollars and start investing
<GRCtip>
Sorry Smiley, you don't have enough funds (you're 0.25 GRC short).
<Smiley>
gah
<Smiley>
i'm currently moving house, don't even have a few dollar D:
<milkeater>
numb163 one of Gridcoins mechanisms is POS. The more coins you can stake the more of the "Annual Coins" you will have made available to you.
<milkeater>
Staking in the beginning can take some time so some people join pools
<jahjah>
brainiak005 are these solely cpu servers?
<brainiak005>
jahjah yeah, no intel gpu either, just 100% cpu
<jahjah>
my pogs score is gunna just fly
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<numb163>
Ive been using the pool only since i started and have been trading my coins on poloniex back and forth for more profits
<milkeater>
Just a tip jahjah.....it may be best if you do the research on your own....your private key is pretty important in this world.....if you are going to screw it up.....hopefully it's because of you and not some bad advice....
<milkeater>
just my 2c
<captainolm>
is it possible to solo crunch (multiple computers in the same project) and get grc rewarded towards one single wallet? or do i have to crunch in a pool in order to connect several computers to one wallet?
<jahjah>
oh i know about private keys and publics, i name the files so it's glaringly obvious
<jahjah>
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxPUBLIC and xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxPRIVATE
<jahjah>
if i fuck up then im a dumbass
<Smiley>
;D
<milkeater>
but if you put it in a place where I had access to your PRIVATE,
<Smiley>
in ssh key-gen the pub one is appended .pub XD
<ThymineC>
Hm, wallet has synced yet but now it says "5 active connections to Gridcoin network" rather than 0
<milkeater>
There was a time when a bunch of people were posting keys in places that weren't necessarily secure and got shredded in AWS.
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Is it raining time? 1 GRC for 10 lucky users every 3 hours! Don't forget to tip me to keep the rain going!
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
!rain 10 10
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! [-SaRaFiNa-] rained 1 GRC on CuriousKat, bfroyo, Peppernrino, unattached, milkeater, werpy, Prints, Wered, jeamy, sbits! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
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<Sander96>
yoyo
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<jahjah>
TIL the feeling of setting up 4 vms at the same time with copy and paste
<spassbold>
Anyway, moving forward to today, Ive been debugging the orphans in the log and I did find the root cause as to why the coin "stops" syncing after a few K, does not always sync from zero, and grcrestarter fails. (Basically a few distinct things needed fixed).
<SashaTheBOLD>
I think it's reasonable to say "new information refines my understanding of who you are as a person, and as a result I no longer feel that we are compatible."
<customminer>
graalcloud: considering that this is an Irc channel for discussing gridcoin, no one cares to hear about either your personal life nor your political preferences.
<fkinglag>
I must go
<fkinglag>
my people need me
* fkinglag
wanders off
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<ThymineC>
Hey, my Gridcoin client has been stuck on block 4983664 for a while. Is behaviour like that normal?
<ThymineC>
Actually it's going up now, but it was like that for ~15 minutes
<ThymineC>
My gridcoin client synced, and I tried to advertise a beacon ("execute advertisebeacon force" from console)
<alfabit>
Johnnyc1423: the debug.log file inside the gridcoinresearch folder
<ThymineC>
It says my CPID is "INVESTOR" though
<ThymineC>
And that "INVESTORS_CANNOT_SENT_BEACONS"
<alfabit>
ThymineC: may take some time for that to switch from investor to CPID
<alfabit>
make sure your boinc is installed and running, boinc path is default (if not set the path in .conf)
<ThymineC>
Ah okay, so I don't need to do anything/haven't misconfigured anything?
<ThymineC>
Yeah I've set up boinc and the path to it in gridcoinresearch.conf
<graalcloud>
^off topic, move to #gridcoin-otc
<alfabit>
if everythign is setup correctly it could take 24-48h before investor changes to your boinc cpid
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<graalcloud>
trump is the topic of discussion right now
<spassbold>
graacloud stop that
<ThymineC>
Thanks
<graalcloud>
my bad i thought random unwarranted fascism was status quo
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* graalcloud
shoots, and swish
<alfabit>
ThymineC: in in a few days it's still showing investor, restart wallet, then if still in vestor come back for more help but i believe at this time there isn't much we can do except wait for a superblock
<graalcloud>
if off topic discussion is not allowed here, why do we even have /action in this channel?
<graalcloud>
and can we get a tipbot in the OTC?
<ThymineC>
Thanks alfabit
<graalcloud>
because i am here to give tips to the new people
<spassbold>
I'm certainly in facour, you should ask sepulcher
<graalcloud>
none of this makes sense and you know it, try being competent first before demanding stuff out of your denizens of gridcoin
<spassbold>
?
<spassbold>
what is your problem?
<graalcloud>
if this channel has a nazi-esque style policy about off topic discussion, why is it so unorganized and confusing? why is there /action? you don't know
<graalcloud>
you have no idea
<graalcloud>
by that logic it should be against the rules to even use the tipbot or /action commands
<Krapfenmann>
Guys i have an annoying problem. Gridcoin related ... Just packed the GRC client in autostart but every startup i have an annoying popup because i run it as admin.
<milkeater>
There are sites popping up like "ShortcutFoo" which will teach you the ins and outs quickly to ease the growing pains. Took me about two weeks of struggle to feel comfortable enough to accomplish basics.
<milkeater>
I see
<Cartoonman>
photoshoop is my bae
<Cartoonman>
!block
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Requesting information from GRC Seed Nodes...
<milkeater>
I switched to Vim as well for all of my programming....everything that I've ended up sticking with for the long term had a difficult learning curve.
<SashaTheBOLD>
Are there any plans to use gridcoin to buy processing time on BOINC?
<spassbold>
plans yes
<spassbold>
it's the implementation that's the problem :D
<milkeater>
There are projects that do that now currently to leverage the users correct?
<milkeater>
Climate Prediction?
<SashaTheBOLD>
Early stages, discussion, or "coming soon to a computer near you"?
<spassbold>
no
<spassbold>
discussion
<spassbold>
Right now there are the science projects
<Cartoonman>
i can't stand vim heh
<spassbold>
and one commercial project: gridcoin finance
<milkeater>
You aren't using vim right then.
<customminer>
Like there's threads dedicated to the theory of commercial boinc projects, or BOINC DACs.
<customminer>
Anyone can make a BOINC project & campaign for whitelist status.
<Cartoonman>
idk, sublime seems to call to me more
<customminer>
So it's not a matter of waiting for someone else to do it, but for community members to take the initiative.
<customminer>
themselves*
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<SashaTheBOLD>
Is it possible for them to use the gridcoin to fund projects at roughly the same rate that other projects generate bitcoin through minting?
<milkeater>
Sublime does seem to be very popular and a significant step up from Notepad++, one I've started recently is IntelliJ's suite.....it's very nice for all of the integrations with projects and frameworks tied to your projects.
<spassbold>
yes boinc project owners could buy gridcoins on the market and give them as additional rewards to their miners
<customminer>
SashaTheBOLD: I'm not sure what you mean, could you elaborate?
<spassbold>
these coins would not be minted though
<milkeater>
It has depth like vim but I'm not all the way there and it's got a subscription base
<spassbold>
but would have to be bought at first on the market
<spassbold>
thus raising th eprice
<Cartoonman>
yea im a notepad++ junkie right now heh, but im starting to take on sublime
<customminer>
You can easily project rain GRC to thousands of users with a single transaction fee.
<milkeater>
Start "considering" vim.....if you are using windows it probably isn't the right choice, but if you are on mac or linux.....I promise it will make your day. It is the plugins you use and then of course throwing away your mouse......it takes a while but it's really nice
<SashaTheBOLD>
@customminer, right now, people get gridcoin from processor time on BOINC. It comes from minted new gridcoin. Couldn't a new project simply buy a bunch of gridcoin and dole them out as payment to processing time spent crunching their project numbers? They could have a payout similar to the gridcoin minting rate.
<milkeater>
So how do you get paid for Proof of Research, is that like receiving a block reward for whitelisted projects?
<Cartoonman>
when i do more work on *nix systems i'll take a look
<customminer>
50k per day distributed through DPOR. 50/26 = 1.92k GRC per project each day. If you distributed 2k per day, you'd be paying over the average.
<DrakeShady>
Android Studio has changed a lot since I last made apps... talk about learning curves
<customminer>
milkeater: On top of proof of stake. When you stake a block, you will earn your owed GRC from DPOR.
<SashaTheBOLD>
That would give gridcoin an actual value as a currency, then -- you could use it to buy processor time from distributed computers.
<customminer>
DrakeShady: you were talking about android wallets, right?
<DrakeShady>
customminer: yeah.
<milkeater>
DrakeShady I don't think Android Studio is the implementation anymore, and I believe JetBrains (who makes IntelliJ) is behind that.
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by customminer - Content type:
<brainiak005>
Has anyone successfully changed their gridcoin pool password?
<customminer>
DrakeShady: We just need an gridcoin electrum server port, and we can get support for that wallet.
<DrakeShady>
Thanks, this will make my job easier
<milkeater>
Correct me if I'm wrong, I thought the history was Android Studio as a wrapper around Eclipse evolving made by JetBrains who have since moved on to focus on IntelliJ sweet.
<customminer>
DrakeShady: I believe there is actually a bounty for this exact project.
<paasei123>
Hello! I was wondering if y'all could help a newbie out
<customminer>
paasei123: Ask away.
<milkeater>
customminer: So when I stake the next block, that block contains the information for all research projects or only for the project that I stake on? I guess I'm not fully understanding if the Gridcoin is a single blockchain like Ethereum or Bitcoin, or if each Project has it's own blockchain.
<customminer>
milkeater: All projects are rewarded in total.
<paasei123>
customminer: I've been computing for the Asteroids@Home project for a couple of days now but in the gridcoin client it still says CPID:INVESTOR
<customminer>
milkeater: It used to be one project per block years ago, but it's all handled far more efficiently now.
<customminer>
paasei123: are you using the pool or solo?
<milkeater>
customminer: Is there a codebase to the research project with core developers or is this all within Berkley?
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<customminer>
milkeater: For Gridcoin, BOINC, or what software exactly?
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by customminer - GitHub - gridcoin/Gridcoin-Research: Gridcoin-Research
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<milkeater>
customminer: In my head I am trying to find reference points I suppose and the closest one I am relating to is bitcoin blockchain core development.
<milkeater>
customminer: Thank you
<paasei123>
customminer: I've followed the pool-crunching guide
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<customminer>
milkeater: The closest crypto gridcoin is related to is Blackcoin and peercoin.
<milkeater>
customminer: Okay, thanks for all the insights
<DrakeShady>
ok. this looks like the wallet uses the electrum server to handle the backend and track the coins, then the server feeds the info to the wallet.
<lexieric>
how you all doing
<_47an>
paasei123: It´s fine to be in investor mode when you are in pool
<DrakeShady>
it would be a lot of trial and error, and I'll need to buy server time, but I think I could get it done
<maokoto>
:)
<customminer>
DrakeShady: If you got it working, i'd host an electrum server too.
<DrakeShady>
we'll need at least two, so thanks for the offer
<DrakeShady>
this is above my skill level, but I still want to see it happen
<brainiak005>
DrakeShady: I'm curious - why an Android wallet?
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<brainiak005>
trying to learn :P
<DrakeShady>
brainiak005: i think a lot of people want access to thier funds on the go, and it will help get it accepted in more places
<customminer>
DrakeShady: No pressure, we can look for others to help out.
<DrakeShady>
also, im bored and need a project to work on
<customminer>
mobile wallet is pretty cool tbh
<brainiak005>
oohhhh, wow, yeah, makes sense
<brainiak005>
haha
<DrakeShady>
Time for dual monitors, cant work on just one
<paasei123>
_47an: ok, so no need to worry?
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<_47an>
paasei123: No worry
<paasei123>
alright, thanks!
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<lexieric>
did i hear something about an android wallet
<Gary760>
lexieric Message Katiee the ID and she will remove them for you.
<lexieric>
ty gary
<lexieric>
katiee
<Gary760>
N/p I had a few of them and she did it for my
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<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Is it raining time? 1 GRC for 10 lucky users every 3 hours! Don't forget to tip me to keep the rain going!
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
!rain 10 10
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! [-SaRaFiNa-] rained 1 GRC on RTMoney_, kickeefast, Schnakenfuss, sbits, leetsp33ch, kondiomir, ss7, Swipper, Ashquith, stevils! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by brewsmithy - Cryptospout's Hourly Gridcoin Faucet - The easiest way to earn free Gridcoin
<milkeater>
How is your electricity free Unreal?
<milkeater>
Uni?
<xXUnRealXx>
both 30amp so not like I can go higher without burning the building down
<milkeater>
apt
<xXUnRealXx>
ya
<Peppernrino>
lol brewsmithy
<xXUnRealXx>
been here so long they cant charge me for electricity, but the new tenents have to pay lol
<xXUnRealXx>
if I move or change apt's I'll have 2 pay too
<xXUnRealXx>
so i'm not fn moving
<xXUnRealXx>
:)
<Peppernrino>
just keep taking courses
<brewsmithy>
:-)
<brewsmithy>
xXUnRealXx you could run extension cords to your neighbors and charge them 1/2 priced electric
<xXUnRealXx>
if they do charge me electricity Ill just turn tap on and make it run all the time to turn the turbines and make free electricity lol snce water if free
<Peppernrino>
blow more fuses
<xXUnRealXx>
cant
<xXUnRealXx>
cant use more ams
<xXUnRealXx>
already maxing
<xXUnRealXx>
don't want a fire in 18 story blding coming back to me
<milkeater>
Oh you can draw more.....you'll just turn everything into series resistors
<milkeater>
Yeah......it will be a glorious fire.
<milkeater>
For the debug console....is there a list of options for the "execute" and "list" commands
<xXUnRealXx>
I mean I could get another fuse box going but id have to figure out a way to shout off ALL MAIN POWER to the grid b4 I could hook up another without getting fried with zillion volts
<milkeater>
I am not seeing them inside help
<xXUnRealXx>
help
<xXUnRealXx>
I think that's a command
<milkeater>
No, for example
<milkeater>
execute advertisebeacon is a command you can run
<milkeater>
but "advertisebeacon" is not displayed within help
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by KatBot - GridCoin.co Pool (beta)
<Peppernrino>
follow instructs there, thymine
<ThymineC>
so you guys all recommend the pool over bam?
<Peppernrino>
different uses
<Peppernrino>
we're rrecommending the pool because you want to get paid NOW.
<Sander96>
There is a disadvantages/advantages on www.gridcoin.us
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by Sander96 - Content type: text/html
<Sander96>
Honestly, with the current issue with the pool, I might have to recommend just staying solo.
<ThymineC>
Ah okay. So using BAM as I am now - that counts as solo-crunching right?
<Sander96>
ye
<Sander96>
working towards your own cpid instead of the pool's
<ThymineC>
Fair dues, I get it. I remember reading briefly about pool vs solo mining with bitcoin. Similar principle I guess - with the pool you get larger, steadier income, and then that gets divided between all members based on their respective contributions
<Sander96>
Exactly
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<ThymineC>
Since you guys are recommending actions, I'll just stick with solo-crunching for the time being because that's the lazier option
<ThymineC>
I'm not in any huge rush either way
<Peppernrino>
it's not the laxier option.
<Peppernrino>
laz
<ThymineC>
I mean it's the lazier option because I'm already solo-crunching
<ThymineC>
so I just leave it as it is rather than switching over to the pool
<Sander96>
I agree with you though
<Sander96>
Are you all synced up?
<ThymineC>
Yep
<Sander96>
Sent a beacon yet?
<Deviantone>
!rainactive 4 20
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Deviantone rained 0.2 GRC on active users wip, dc7d, bob21, caraka, customminer, unattached, patanjali, DrakeShady, MiXa1972, jamofox, ThymineC, Pascal, YajuuSenpai, xXUnRealXx, zagoti, rawkmopp, d3v_nu11, Gary760, Sander96, Cartoonman! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<ThymineC>
No, I think I have to wait a few days, since my client still has my CPID set to INVESTOR
<Peppernrino>
nice
<ThymineC>
Cheers
<DrakeShady>
!tip GRC 10
<GRCtip>
DrakeShady tipped GRC 10 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<Peppernrino>
..
<ThymineC>
When I try to send a beacon, it says INVESTORS_CANNOT_SEND_BEACONS
<Sander96>
ThymineC Just to make sure: BOINC installed on default path? On team Gridcoin on every project?
<Deviantone>
took a few days to hike in the smoky mountains of tennessee back to reality now
<ThymineC>
Yep
<Sander96>
Welcome back Deviantone
Peppernrino is now known as GRC
<ThymineC>
C:/ProgramData/BOINC
<Deviantone>
ty
<customminer>
If your cpid is still set to investor after a day, you should investigate why it's not detecting it. Did you install boinc to a non-default location? Have you ran boinc alongside the gridcoin client?
<GRC>
-NickServ- Nick grc is already registered to grc48.
<GRC>
lol
<customminer>
Using the same email for all projects and in the conf file?
GRC is now known as Peppernrino
<Sander96>
Same emailadress as well
<Sander96>
lol customminer is 2fast4me
<ThymineC>
From my conf:
<Peppernrino>
that money went NOWHERE>
<ThymineC>
boincdatadir=C:\\ProgramData\\BOINC\\
<ThymineC>
PrimaryCPID=INVESTOR
<ThymineC>
autounlock=BpPFyPEoV3lV
<ThymineC>
Same email for all projects and in conf
<DrakeShady>
damn, wanted to send the coins back to GRCtip
<DrakeShady>
I messed that up
<Peppernrino>
then tip grctip fool
<ThymineC>
It's not been a day yet though
<Peppernrino>
lol
<customminer>
Change investor to your cpid
<ThymineC>
Oh, so that is supposed to be replaced? Fair dues, cheers
<Sander96>
A day is what we say, but it should happen faster
<ThymineC>
I asked earlier and someone said I should just leave it and wait
<customminer>
It's just cutting a corner
<customminer>
You specified the boincappdir too?
<ThymineC>
yup
<ThymineC>
boincdatadir=C:\\ProgramData\\BOINC\\
<ThymineC>
let me try restarting now
<ThymineC>
the client, I mean
<customminer>
If that doesn't work, try execute resetcpids
<ThymineC>
I replaced my primary CPID with the CPID I use for GPUGrid
<ThymineC>
Probably just a matter of leaving it, I guess
<ThymineC>
for some time
<ThymineC>
For one thing I haven't completed any BOINC tasks yet
<RTW93>
arg i forgot to unlock my wallet
<newToGRC>
!rainactive 2 10
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! newToGRC rained 0.2 GRC on active users CptFlashbang, Gary760, Sander96, Yoduza, mfgrim, NIko666, B0iNcEr, omnibusinc, Pascal, holmea! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<Sander96>
tyvm newToGRC :D
<newToGRC>
:D
<ThymineC>
I wasn't active? :o
<Sander96>
ThymineC: That could be it then, let us know if you get it working!
<ThymineC>
Sure :)
<omnibusinc>
woo
<Sander96>
2 10 picks 10 random users and gives 0.2
<ThymineC>
Ah, cheers
<Sander96>
so unfortunately you weren't part of the 10 :D
<Peppernrino>
newtogrc gets it.
<NIko666>
Thanks
<ThymineC>
!rainactive 0.01 1
<GRCtip>
Sorry ThymineC, your rain to active users (0.01 GRC) is too small (min. 0.1 GRC). Increase the amount or decrease max active users.
<newToGRC>
what am I getting? :O
<ThymineC>
I'm not made of money, GRCtip >:[
<Peppernrino>
it.
<Deviantone>
thimineC here's what it says
<Deviantone>
You need to be contributing towards a BOINC project for at least 24 hours for the project server's stats to propagate fully.
<Deviantone>
If your cpids split (two projects using two seperate cpids), then this may add an extra day to setup. Remain calm and attempt to resolve this issue (verify you're using the one email address & continue contributing towards BOINC on afflicted projects).
<Deviantone>
Once the Gridcoin client has detected your CPID (and you're no longer detected as an 'INVSTOR') you advertise a beacon (registration transaction) to join the 'Neural Network'; there is a superblock (block that registers new users and updates stats) that is created once every 24 hours, so you will have to wait up to 24hrs after advertising your beacon before being fully registered in the DPOR
<Deviantone>
system.
<Sander96>
!tip ThymineC 1
<GRCtip>
Sander96 tipped ThymineC 1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<Peppernrino>
i guess i was wrong lolol
<ThymineC>
Thanks man!
<newToGRC>
heheh ok
<ThymineC>
Cheers Deviantone
<Deviantone>
:)
<ThymineC>
I started BOINC today at the same time as Gridcoin
<Peppernrino>
nice copy-paste ;)
<ThymineC>
And no worry about CPID splits - only contributing towards one project ATM (GPUGrid)
<Peppernrino>
if you started BOINC today... you shouldnt even be asking querstions
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by KatBot - Katiee's GRC Magnitude/Earnings Calculator
<Peppernrino>
it was in the middle of all the shit
<Peppernrino>
you know lie a week ago
<kickeefast>
Oh yeah! It's all coming together for me
<Peppernrino>
good stuff bud. :)
<Deviantone>
no sense in reinventing the wheel
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<Deviantone>
links and copy/paste ftw
<Peppernrino>
i did a bit on the wiki
<Juhzuri>
Peppernrino: As far as Gridcoin Wallet goes, when syncing in CPID to network initially, do client restarts kinda reset the "wait 1-3 days for it to stop saying investor?"
<Peppernrino>
that would be cool if it was the real rob halford.
<Peppernrino>
amirite?
<Peppernrino>
fucking painkiller
<Sander96>
I like ours better
<Peppernrino>
but if he was the same guy.
<gizmodroid>
sanderson
<spassbold>
that's goinf to be the big revfeal when gridcoin is the #1 crypto
<Peppernrino>
i have to edit my voice out of this next video LOL
<gizmodroid>
long form of sanders
<Sander96>
Sanderson is new to me
<spassbold>
everybody going crazy
<Peppernrino>
my gf is popping ballons "what the fuck was that?"
<Peppernrino>
his family shortened it from Sanderkowitz when they came from Poland.
<Sander96>
Even Pep's GF is going crazy
<Juhzuri>
I love the idea of the pool more than solo. Glad she's running it. Wonder what the server costs are though. Kinda sucks if it's all on her.
<Peppernrino>
pep IS the gf. :P
<Peppernrino>
i'm rino
<gizmodroid>
up to 29th in the pool. I'm coming for you, ru551n and HannsGruber
<Peppernrino>
she's literall popped like 50 balloons...
<Sander96>
Why do you have 50 filled balloons
<Peppernrino>
good stuff, gizmodroid. :)
<Peppernrino>
to pop them....
<Peppernrino>
(otc) lol
<gizmodroid>
not too bad for only having cpu's at my disposal
<Peppernrino>
that doesn't mean anything
<Peppernrino>
you could have "only" 5000 cpus at your disposal ;D
<Juhzuri>
I think that most projects benefit more from CPU than GPU/ASICs in this case.
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<gizmodroid>
you think? I remember back when I was folding, and the GPU stuff first came on the scene, everyone thought CPU folding would become worthless
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<Phay>
i cant think
<Juhzuri>
I think that most of the code written for BOINC projects is optimized for the clock and cache of CPUs more so than GPUs at this point as a lot of the logic they're crunching through is sequential.
<gizmodroid>
do you guys ever wondery if peppernrino and phay are actually just one person
<xXUnRealXx>
Phay
<xXUnRealXx>
I need your help again
<Peppernrino>
we wish
<Phay>
i just woke up
<xXUnRealXx>
good Afternoon
<xXUnRealXx>
or Evening
<lexieric>
good evening phay
<gizmodroid>
in my mind, its just one person with two computers side by side
<xXUnRealXx>
5:23pm
<Juhzuri>
Or... it could just be legacy code keeping more projects on CPU.
<lexieric>
21.23pm for me
<milkeater>
!price
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<Deviantone>
and sometimes a project just can't run well on GPU
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<GRCtip>
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<Yoduza>
nice
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<ginger06>
I think I'm just struggling to know when to lock and unlock the wallet
<_47an>
stakeing is when you got a block and reward
<ginger06>
gotcha
<_47an>
onluck with staking on
<_47an>
*unlock
<ginger06>
sweet. Any reason at all to lock it?
<Sander96>
if you don't want to stake
<_47an>
For security so noone steal the wallet
<ginger06>
Ok, so if I keep it locked I can't earn coin even if BIONIC is running? or is that to simply check back with the server
<ginger06>
it seems strange to not let it update if it is locked
<fkinglag>
I see Collatz is still kaput
<_47an>
should be able to update, might be that it ask to run as admin. If younlock for staking. If it´s completly lock then it may not work have not done that.
<ginger06>
cool cool.
<ginger06>
thanks guys
<_47an>
Will not get reward to wallet until you unlock. but all you have done will be saved i network.
<_47an>
would need to stake atleast once per 6 month
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<_47an>
you will need to resend report after 6 moth to stay in network.