05:29 <nmz787> soul-d: thanks for that paper

05:30 <nmz787> why can't I find info on this photoresist online or in journal articles? it's called iP5680 and made by TOK (TOKYO OHKA KOGYO)

05:31 <nmz787> kanzure: can you find anything more than this? http://snf.stanford.edu/pipermail/specmat/2008-July/001686.html

05:32 <kanzure> paperbot: http://snf.stanford.edu/pipermail/specmat/2008-July/001686.html

05:32 <kanzure> oh wait i'm an idiot

05:32 <paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/e29f30eaa017f35f52e4fa64831b6d65.txt

05:32 <soul-d> np,

05:33 <kanzure> lkcl_: nice to see you in here

05:33 <soul-d> and anything out of japan might be hard on info if it's created their

05:33 <soul-d> they are terrible in english

05:35 <nmz787> hmm

05:35 <nmz787> they sent me this as well http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/pdf/TOK_ip5680.pdf

05:36 <soul-d> 6 and 13 google results mostly to tok-europe or the mailing list you already found

05:38 <nmz787> since I need curved channels, and the unfocused curved resist isn't very smooth, I think I need to figure out some easy etching processes

05:38 <soul-d> they tell everything except what it is ;) probably some secret

05:39 <nmz787> this resist looks fine to do silicone impressions with for square channels

05:39 <nmz787> but this means that I can't have curved and square channels on the same layer

05:40 <nmz787> which might not be a big deal, I don't think it would be at this point

05:45 <soul-d> can't say anything on that since i'm just a general lurker here reading with great interest but nowhere near experimenting yet

06:41 <nmz787> what's your interest//goal?

06:49 <soul-d> everything/world domination

06:52 <Sync__> I hope they loaded the wafers yesterday at work

06:53 <Sync__> otherwise I can wait three hours

06:54 <soul-d> nothing particular but this stuff does get down to the physical world instead of just digital software , chemistry balancing calculating that

06:55 <soul-d> but since i don't have a true proper setup yet like decent labisch type of work spot

06:57 <Sync__> need to put in some work next week after my wafers are done :/

06:57 <Sync__> need to get the stages running

07:04 <soul-d> i needed some more coffee :) you already built something with al the fancy stuff you posted ? like for x,y stage ?

07:10 <Sync__> I built a controller for the stage

07:10 <Sync__> but I need to bolt them together now

07:11 <Sync__> I'll need some good microscope lenses then and build some kind of focusing mechanism

07:33 <nmz787> are there any 'safe' isotropic etches?

07:38 <Sync__> well, I guess the "safest" is koh

07:38 <Sync__> but that has a high selectivity

07:42 <nmz787> that's anisotropic

07:42 <nmz787> need curves not angles

07:45 <Sync__> that's why I said it, but I guess you don't have much choice

11:14 <Sync__> hmm

11:14 <Sync__> germanium is running low

11:14 <Sync__> rate controller is hitting max power all the time :/