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<promach> For differential amplifier, why does Gm hit the maximum value when V(in1)=V(in2) ?
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<Bike> the text you got that from doesn't explain?
<Bike> razavi, ok.
<Bike> he has the expression for Gm right there as 4.11. i... don't want to work out the calculus or anything to prove it's a maximum, but it seems intuitive enough
<promach> Bike: intuitive enough? how ?
<Bike> increasing the voltage difference increases the subtrahend in the numerator faster than it shrinks the denominator
<Bike> i guess i'm not sure how to make it intuitive in actual electrical terms, though
<Bike> i feel there should be some obvious reason the current difference versus voltage difference curve is sigmoidal, but i can't think of it :/
<promach> Bike: I am referring to Gm versus delta-Vin curve
<Bike> i know
<promach> let me do more research, I will come back to you
<Bike> it's shaped like a hump because id/vd is sigmoidal
<promach> what ?
<Bike> s-shaped. all the curves in 4.14
<Bike> you can see that they're steepest at 0 Vd, meaning Gm is highest there.
<promach> I see
<promach> but the x-axis is labelled delta-Vin
<promach> not Vin alone
<promach> Bike:
<Bike> uh, yeah. same as the Gm graph.
<Bike> the Gm graph is the derivative of 4.14.
<promach> Bike: I got to run now. I am still confused why it still work out with x-axis labelled as delta-Vin instead of Vin
<Bike> what
<promach> delta-Vin
<promach> x-axis
<Bike> i mean there's nothing called "Vin" for one, ther's two voltage inputs
<promach> delta-Vin = V(in2) - V(n1)
<Bike> yes...
<promach> I got to run now. I am still confused on the axis label
<promach> x-axis
<Bike> it's a differential amplifier. the input is differential.
<promach> I know
<promach> but...
<promach> when delta-Vin = 0, Id1 = Id2
<promach> I see
<promach> ok, I got it now
<Bike> um. good, i guess.
<promach> let me figure out the maths behind equation 4.11
<Bike> maybe you're not clear on what transconductance is?
<promach> I got your intuitive understanding
<promach> I mean maths
<promach> I understand what Gm is
<promach> 4.11
<promach> I got to run now
<Bike> bye.
<promach> let me study equation 4.11 more
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<python476> hi guys, you knew this https://vimeo.com/channels/26257 ?
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