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<scio> dht
<scio> Does mDNS now work on browser nodes?
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<ilyaigpetrov> Hi. Can someone create a folder on ipfs with subfolders linked to ipns addressses owned by other people?
<ilyaigpetrov> Like submodules in git.
<ilyaigpetrov> submodules not to a certain commit but to the HEAD of master
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<olizilla[m]> carson: that's a totally resonable api to want, please do raise an issue on go-ipfs.
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<yorick> so I have something on eternum, with a site CNAME'd to cloudflare-ipfs.com, but all pages take forever to load
<Swedneck_> they have to reach cloudflare-ipfs.com's gateway
<yorick> can I make that go faster?
<mattober[m]> yorick: cloudflare's gateway needs to first find the hashes from eternum
<mattober[m]> and then once that happens things should load faster
<mattober[m]> as they'll then be cached on cloudflare's gateway for future loads
<yorick> mattober[m]: every single page takes that long and after a few hours they take that long again
<mattober[m]> hmm that's weird
<mattober[m]> what's the hash?
<mattober[m]> do you have a link to the content on eternums gateway?
<yorick> https://ipfs.eternum.io/ipns/muflax.church/ I'm moving to an own gateway that does peer with eternum
<yorick> (yes, site does not use relative paths :/)
<mattober[m]> ahh, ipns
<mattober[m]> that's likely th eproblem
<mattober[m]> IPNS is really slow
<yorick> mattober[m]: what?! this is not ipns, this is dnslink
<yorick> I can resolve it and it'll be just as slow
<yorick> https://cloudflare-ipfs.com/ipns/daily.muflax.church/log/9 all these log pages take 10 minutes to appear and then again when I wait a few hours
<yorick> (try some other number if 9 is fast now)
<mattober[m]> sure
<mattober[m]> so what I'm saying, is because you're using IPNS, it takes a long time for pages to resolve on cloudflare's gateway
<mattober[m]> the reason that it's loading fast on eternums gateway, is that eternum's gateway is likely the same node hosting the content
<mattober[m]> so IPNS resolves instantly
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<mattober[m]> Can you try uploading the same website using just IPFS, and not IPNS?
<mattober[m]> for example, here's a demo website that's hosted on cloudflare's gateway: https://deploypinata.com/
<yorick> mattober[m]: I am not using IPNS on cloudflare's gateway
<mattober[m]> the DNS link resolves to an IPFS hash, and not an IPNS hash
<yorick> yes, same for me
<yorick> I don't know why you're thinking I'm using ipns
<mattober[m]> I had assumed you were using IPNS because IPNS is in the url
<yorick> no, /ipns/some.website does a dns link lookup
<mattober[m]> ahh, my apologies. I've always just used the direct DNS link to the IPFS hash
<mattober[m]> for example, my cloudflare records look like this
* mattober[m] uploaded an image: image.png (41KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/xThnhpfKClLnGkBmuZXqtutx >
<yorick> _dnslink.muflax.church. 60 IN TXT "dnslink=/ipfs/QmXPBmbVJ9tJRJRf6fNEZ4dmVXLR1zRk5LksYJsidoh2pD"
<yorick> so same here
<mattober[m]> one moment, let me try and resolve on our gateway
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<mattober[m]> I'm seeing things resolves on our gateway
<mattober[m]> this looks to be an issue with cloudflare itself unfortunately
<mattober[m]> I would email their team
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<carson[m]1> their gateway has been super slow lately
<carson[m]1> olizilla: cool, i'll submit an issue, cheers
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<kaun_> Hi. Any pointers regarding IPFS as a Tor "onion" service?
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<postables[m]> kaun_: depends on what exactly you're talking about
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<postables[m]> are you just running a gateway, a pinning service, etc... there's many factors to consider so that you dont accidentally leak sensitive information
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<postables[m]> DNSLink shouldn't be slow at all
<postables[m]> the resolve time for DNSLink should be just as fast as typical DNS, but the loading of the content can take sometime
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<Geezus42[m]> Anyone know how to disable the check for Python2?
<Geezus42[m]> wrong room, sorry
<Swedneck2> what does that have to do with ipfs?
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<darkmeson[m]> postables (@postables:matrix.org): it's usually safe to assume that people wanting to run something on an onion are talking about total bubblewrapping, and the generic answer usually involves torsocks (or proxychains, with a few caveats) or a vm/container/user whose traffic is non-optionally torified externally (firewall, internet access only via torified proxy, etc)
<postables[m]> ah okay in that case I would definitely suggest taking a look at work being done by openbazzar
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<darkmeson[m]> Personally, I prefer the VM approach, since (barring spectre exploits and the like) the software within can only ever rat out mostly useless information like the private range IP and the current exit node IP anyway
<darkmeson[m]> It also goes along pretty well with models like Qubes' and Whonix' where it's set up to facilitate isolation via "appvms" to begin with
<darkmeson[m]> postables (@postables:matrix.org): Actually, I guess that part deserves a little more explicit tie-in. Certain rat bastard protocols like bittorrent (certainly a gold standard of privacy don'ts) were poorly enough designed and thought out that they tended to leak enough at the protocol level that it effectively rendered using Tor useless and (worse) drew attention to the people doing it instead
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<postables[m]> the one downside with IPFS and anonymity protocols like TOR or I2P is that you will probably (at this stage) leak a lot of information that could be used to deanonymize yourself
<darkmeson[m]> not necessarily
<darkmeson[m]> (especially with I2P)
<postables[m]> it's certainly possible to do right now, groups like OpenBazzar have released TOR libp2p transports, there's also stuff like this https://github.com/cretz/tor-dht-poc
<postables[m]> https://github.com/OpenBazaar/go-onion-transport is the particular libp2p transport
<darkmeson[m]> At least, not as long as one is appropriately isolating any untrustworthy code (translation: anything you're not 100% sure isn't betraying you in some way) in a locked down environment
<darkmeson[m]> At the end of the day, the only other thing that really matters all that much to whether something can be torified is if it uses protocols other than TCP for any reason
<postables[m]> that's a good point too
<postables[m]> stuff like IPNS might shoot yourself in the foot by doing DNS lookups
<darkmeson[m]> For instance, I've found that I2P can operate just fine over open wifi networks where traffic gets non-optionally torified, but it requires turning off UDP since that's seemingly the preferred way of sending packets (presumably because of less overhead since they use their own, vaguely ethernet-like framing format). Others like Teeworlds (foss game) had to be adapted to TCP to be used over websockets when compiled to JS
<darkmeson[m]> (teewebs.net), but also works fine over Tor as a side effect. Afaict, IPFS (the implementations I've tried on Android, at least) don't do this, so it *should* be a non-issue here
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<darkmeson[m]> <postables[m] "stuff like IPNS might shoot your"> that's typically handled by using a Tor "appvm" as the gateway or similar. At the simplest, one just disallows all forwarding of non-TCP traffic and shunts the rest through the TransProxy port
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<postables[m]> ah yes good point
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<darkmeson[m]> Personally, I like to handle DNS traffic specially since it can sometimes leak things out over Tor that still might unmask you, but it's not all that much more difficult to add BIND, dnsmasq, etc, to the equation with the Tor DNSPort as its upstream, honestly
<darkmeson[m]> My use cases are a little...special, though. Most people treating the container essentially as a throw-away no man's land won't have to worry about it
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<darkmeson[m]> (especially since stack-specific needs can typically, safely be encapsulated in the vm/container for it provided the stack doesn't have superuser access)
<postables[m]3> interesting, i wonder then if with the right configuration most of the risk isn't on yourself, but on the DHT traffic that isn't being torified amongst your peers talking to their peersand such
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<shokunin[m]> Are there any plans for DJs at IPFS Camp? I'm a pretty solid techno / house dj XD
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