08:02 <JRubyGithub> [jruby] prashantvithani opened issue #5309: Invalid byte sequence in UTF-8 for StringIO objects https://git.io/fAwVd

19:42 <headius> hey hey hey

19:42 <headius> I'm surprised pypy is still a going effort, but then so is JRuby

19:43 <headius> the section on partial evaluation is interesting and reflects what I understand

20:02 <lopex> like the lack of good metric where to focus ?

20:05 <lopex> headius: but somewhat similar issues where wrt program trace against interpreter trace

20:09 <headius> inlining heuristics being difficult to get right

20:09 <headius> how much, when to stop

20:09 <headius> but it's pretty slim on details here

20:11 <lopex> and then there's the hardware which skews things too

20:13 <headius> zero mention of Topaz

20:14 <headius> interesting that after all these years they their C ext stuff is still iffy

20:16 <lopex> those restricted languages that are c in disguise were always a smell for me

20:30 <headius> lopex: yeah I have a recollection of a time where rpython wasn't just a C generator but maybe I'm wrong

20:43 <dlahn> When using java_import, is there a reason I sometimes have to use quotes around the package name, even with one starting with org?

21:22 <lopex> like packages having upcased letters ?