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<cosm> ssvb: oh my, you were right
<cosm> ssvb: mplayer/ffmpeg compiled with neon support and -mcpu=cortex-a9 is so much faster
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<cosm> ssvb: the same 720p video plays at half the load (1.7ish)
<cosm> ssvb: it can even play a 1080p h264 at 15 fps or so
<cosm> ssvb: which doesn't make it watchable, but it feels quite close :)
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<wens> Sb c
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<wens> ELC slides are out
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<mripard> wens: yes, they were due a week before ELC
<mripard> (and I was very late)
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<mripard> wens: some talks will have videos too
<wens> oh nice
<mripard> I don't know the exact details yet
<mripard> but several people had camcorders
<mripard> we had one, the ELC organizers had two
<wens> guess we can start looking for videos on youtube next week
<mripard> usually, elinux.org has all the links whenever it's online
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<wens> I'm worried we won't be able to use PSCI on A23
<wens> so far I don't see any secure SRAM
<Turl> wens: where does boot0 get loaded to?
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<wens> SRAM A @ 0x0
<wens> secure SRAM is labeled as SRAM B, which the Ax3 series don't have
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<Sby> how to create nand image of fedora and ubuntu for A20 board
<Richard_P> Yo All! loving the A20 Cubie but I am curious on the state of the crypto/PRNG devices... is there a driver/implementation yet?
<libv> Sby: did you search the wiki for nand?
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<huehner> Richard_P: i think someone here was chatting about working on it and that it did not give soo much speedup as he would have liked to
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<Sby> which is booting fine
<Richard_P> huehner: thanks... I am more interested in the PRNG - but any offloading from the CPU for AES is welcomed
<Sby> but once i change kernel, i am getting CRC error
<Sby> i used imagerepacker command to unpack and repack the fedora image
<huehner> Richard_P: user working on that i think is Montjoie, maybe check irc history for his nick
<huehner> Richard_P: i think there was some discussion about it just a few days ago
<huehner> Richard_P: but don't remember prng as a topic there
<Richard_P> huehner: thanks... I will get uncle-google search more of the logs :P
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<Montjoie> Richard_P, huehner I confirm on working on Security System of A20
<Richard_P> Montjoie: thanks... I can offer my services :D (programmer by day... err.. and by night) I just didnt want to start coding without knowing what is already working
<Montjoie> You can read the preliminary driver that I have sent for 3.4 kernel
<Montjoie> but if you can wait, I expect to release soon the driver for mainline (3.15)
<Montjoie> I just need to clean it a little before sending it to the mailinglist
<Richard_P> I can wait :-P but if you need a review I am free to look
<Richard_P> I have a keen interest in the PRNG gizmo
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<Richard_P> oops :-P that broke xchat :D
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<Richard_P> (Setting up ZNC bouncer)
<Montjoie> my work on the prng is minimal
<Montjoie> the driver load but I can tell if linux using it
<Montjoie> cannot
<Richard_P> it should be added to the entropy pool ...
<Richard_P> cat /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail
<Richard_P> If it returns anything less than 100-200 then usually not using PRNG
<Montjoie> I got 634 without my driver:)
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<Richard_P> damn.. thats already good
<Richard_P> the bigger the number the better
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<TuxboxGuru> yaay... ZNC works
<Richard_P> Montjoie: If you need any assistance, please shout
<Richard_P> changing to TuxboxGuru nick
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<TuxboxGuru> Montjoie: do you have a usual GIT repo with your code changes in it ?
<Montjoie> no
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<Montjoie> but it is something I need to do
<huehner> Montjoie: for mainline you mean maybe merging to 3.16 (as 3.15 is now at -rc4 already), or meaning as sunxi-devel is now rebased to 3.15-rc1 ?
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<Montjoie> for the moment I test with sunxi-devel but my goal is real mainline
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<TuxboxGuru> Montjoie: thanks.. I'll grab and see whats there for Crypto
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<huehner> Montjoie: if you need someone for testing stuff (a20/cubietruck) let me know
<TuxboxGuru> I'll add i am a willing tester too (Cubeboard2)
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<TuxboxGuru> Montjoie: http://www.wolfmud.org/journal/2013/2/6.html <-- There is an explanation on different RNG values and how to test for it
<amitk> Hi, I'm working on getting linux-sunxi working on a a20/qt840a device (factory firmware from hell). Basic device boots up fine with cubietruck2 configs, but emac is proving to be a problem - no packets are transmitted as a result of dhcp requests. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.
<amitk> (early days to send out patches yet)
<plaes> use gmac
<amitk> plaes: I tried that too - configured uboot for gmac with rgmii enabled and the same for the kernel but no luck so far
<plaes> oh
<amitk> this is the 3.4 kernel, btw. I need the graphics to work hence haven't tried mainline yet
<libv> amitk: have you created a wiki page already?
<amitk> libv: I've read the new board wikipage and intend to do that, just wanted something more than the basic serial console going before I created a new page and posted patches :)
<libv> amitk: the order in which you should do this is the opposite.
<libv> amitk: if you create the device page first, you can document things as you find them out.
* libv is going to make that even clearer.
<amitk> libv: ack, will put something together shortly
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<ssvb> Montjoie: hmm, Richard_P has left already, so I can't ask him what kind of entropy improvement he expects from *P*RNG
<wens> ssvb: he switched nicks, TuxboxGuru
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<ssvb> oh, TuxboxGuru ^
<ssvb> PRNG is deterministic by its definition - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudorandom_number_generator
<ssvb> we even don't know the exact PRNG algorithm used by the sunxi hardware, and this is theoretically a major security risk
<Montjoie> ssvb, all algorithm of SecuritySystem have their own sub-option, so if you dont want PRNG you could disable it
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<ssvb> Montjoie: well, disabling is a bit of an overkill and not really necessary :) just relying on it would be a bad idea until we know how it works
<ssvb> I would expect it to be something AES based, because this way they can share the same hardware for encryption and PRNG
<huehner> ssvb: didn't mainline recently have that discussion in general, on trusting hw prng or not and i think idea was to not use it as sole source of entropy but mix it in kernel pool as one of several sources and kernel mixing takes care (mostly) of that being a bad idea?
<ssvb> huehner: if the PRNG is entirely deterministic, then adding it to the entropy pool is just a cargo cult
<huehner> ssvb: true, if you could observe it state also then not very useful
<ssvb> the A20 manual says "160-bit hardware PRNG with 192-bit seed", there is absolutely no randomness in it and everything is determined by the seed
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<huehner> ssvb: unless that seed would be non-deterministic, i.e. by real hw rng, but unlikely
<huehner> ssvb: also looks like you digged more into that then me already
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<libv> amitk: are you editing the page right now?
<amitk> libv: done for now, just added the basic infobox stuff: http://linux-sunxi.org/Qt840a
<libv> amitk: did you make that picture?
<amitk> libv: will add more stuff as time permits
* libv just clarified a few more bits in the new device page howto, as people have too often grabbed images from the interweb
<libv> amitk: ok, let me work a bit of my magic then
<amitk> libv: I *think* you won't like the answer, it was part of the marketing material that the device vendor sent me. ( /me realises there could be terms of use issues)
<libv> ok, let me delete that then
<plaes> device nrf51822
<plaes> speed 1000
<plaes> oops
* ssvb has just ordered https://www.olimex.com/Products/OLinuXino/A13/A13-OLinuXino-MICRO to have some sample of A13 hardware and collect the whole A10/A13/A20 family
<libv> ssvb: :)
<libv> ssvb: that's a seriously underdocumented piece of hw :)
<ssvb> libv: there is no point for anybody to buy this board nowadays, other than for some weird reasons :)
<ssvb> A10-OLinuXino-LIME has beefier hardware and costs less
<libv> ssvb: indeed, so i am very glad that you did :)
<libv> and why did you order it?
<libv> why didn't you just drop tsvetan an email?
<ssvb> to have A13 hardware specifically for testing the dram controller initialization code
<ssvb> nah, I don't want to owe anything to anybody
<libv> i think that in your case, you paid your potential dues already :)
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<libv> i am glad you ordered it though, as otherwise he would've sent you the proper board instead, and the micro would never get documented :)
<ssvb> hmm, this is a really weird board, they have even removed the AXP209 power chip - http://olimex.wordpress.com/2012/08/30/sneak-preview-of-a13-olinuxino-micro/
* ssvb expects a lot of issues with it
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<libv> ssvb: fun ;)
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<vector80> Hi, I use Debian 7, without an X server. My LCD is 1280x800, and connected to my board via LVDS. After running a few minutes, LCD goes blank, and does not wake up. How to wake up ?
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<ssvb> vector80: add 'consoleblank=0' option to the kernel cmdline if you don't want it to blank after a few minutes
<ssvb> waking up should be possible by running 'echo 0 > /sys/devices/platform/disp/graphics/fb0/blank'
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<vector80> ssvb: You are no:1
<vector80> It is perfect answer again
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<popolon> Tiens
<popolon> oops
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<Montjoie> I have overclocked the SS clk from 150 to 300Mhz, no major performance changes:(
<Turl> Montjoie: PIO or DMA?
<Montjoie> PIO
<Wizzup> Montjoie: That probably means the overhead is not in the SS
<Montjoie> when I said no major, I must said no difference
<Montjoie> md5 with SS is slow by a factor of 2 versus the generic implementation, I gonna be crazy
<Turl> what is cpu usage while using SS?
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<Montjoie> I speak in CPU cycle
<Montjoie> example:
<Montjoie> test md5-generic 21 ( 8192 byte blocks, 8192 bytes per update, 1 updates): 10078 opers/sec, 82558976 bytes/sec
<Montjoie> test md5-sunxi-ss 21 ( 8192 byte blocks, 8192 bytes per update, 1 updates): 4780 opers/sec, 39161856 bytes/sec
<Montjoie> test md5-generic 21 ( 8192 byte blocks, 8192 bytes per update, 1 updates): 2379 cycles/operation, 0 cycles/byte
<Montjoie> test md5-sunxi-ss 21 ( 8192 byte blocks, 8192 bytes per update, 1 updates): 5013 cycles/operation, 0 cycles/byte
<Montjoie> those values are gived by the tcrypt module
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<Wizzup> in your timings, do you take the overhead of getting the data to SS in account?
<Wizzup> That would be interesting
<Turl> Montjoie: try with more updates
<Montjoie> Wizzup, getting the data to SS ?
<Wizzup> Well, I saw a mention of DMA, but if you're not using DMA there needs to be a way to 'feed' the data to the SS?
<Wizzup> I think, what we want to see is that SS is faster than the CPU, as most of the time is spent on doing the crypto, rather than transferring data
<Wizzup> but I probably don't know enough about it... :)
<Turl> cool, gsm/gprs/bluetooth uext module :)
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<ccaione> where?
<Turl> ccaione: olimex
<Turl> also fm radio o.o
<Montjoie> Wizzup, no DMA engine yet
<wens> sounds interesting
<wens> hope the driver would be easy to work with
<Wizzup> Montjoie: can I find the code somewhere so I know what I am talking about?
<Montjoie> transferring the data is just a write
<Wizzup> Montjoie: sure, so maybe start the timing *after* the write? :-)
<Turl> wens: I don't think there's a driver per se, it's just a serial device
<Turl> you use everything with AT commands
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<wens> surely there's something for BT and fm radio?
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<Turl> it even has pop/ftp/http/icmp clients you can use with AT commands o.o
<juanfont> vector80, our LCD goes blank when running X?
<juanfont> ^your
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<vector80> juanfont: Sorry for delay, yes, just for testing I also installed LXDE on my wheezy, and was going to blank too.
<vector80> But ssvb give me perfect solution, it is very good now
<juanfont> vector80, add the following lines to your .xinitrc
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<juanfont> xset -dpms &
<juanfont> xset s noblank &
<juanfont> xset s off &
<vector80> Right, I have seen those things on the web too
<vector80> But since I don't use an X server, those solutions were useless for me
<vector80> But again many thanks for your interest
<vector80> I am actually extremely happy now,
<juanfont> did you add consoleblank=0 at the uEnv.txt?
<vector80> because for many weeks, I was thinking how to use my hi253 camera which is working perfectly under android
<vector80> Looks like currently kernel modules are loading without error
<vector80> No I did not added that one,
<vector80> because I am thinking one thing
<vector80> Can I implement something similar to android
<vector80> I mean, when TP gets a touch, it will wake up my LCD
<vector80> Is that possible ?
<juanfont> i don't know :/
<vector80> :/
<vector80> Anyway, many thanks again
<vector80> I am just in the middle of testing my camera with mplayer
<vector80> Do you have any experience with Csi ?
<torindel> vector80: p.s. a10disp, assuming it still works
<vector80> a10disp ?
<vector80> What is that ?
<vector80> let me check
<torindel> thing that can turn on/off lcd, hdmi, ..., set modes etc
<vector80> oh my god
<vector80> it is very nice
<vector80> Thank you soo much
<vector80> oh my god
<vector80> my camera is working !!!
<vector80> but colors are little bit strange
<vector80> I used this command: mplayer tv:// -tv driver=v4l2:device=/dev/video0 -vo png -frames 1
<Turl> vector80: :)
<vector80> hahaha
<vector80> Manufacturers are on the correct way
<Turl> mnemoc: did you dust off your cb? :p
<Turl> brb
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<gzamboni> vector80, what's the kernel version you're using with the csi camera ? did you change the csi code ?
<vector80> I am using 3.4.79-sertac+
<vector80> I modified many parts, but never touched any code regarding camera
<vector80> So csi code is the original one
<vector80> With above code, I have been able to capture single frame as PNG
<vector80> The colors are little strange
<vector80> but it is acceptable
<vector80> But I really wonder,
<vector80> Can I capture this camera, and stream out via RTSP ?
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<vector80> How we can use A20's own HW Encoder ?
<vector80> gzamboni: Do you also use hi253 ?
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<vector80> Very bad... Here is what happens when I capture PNG with Mplayer: http://pastie.org/9142819
<vector80> The picture is a little reddish
<torindel> vector80: seen couple things like: https://github.com/ebutera/gst-plugin-cedar
<torindel> (thats encoder only i think, havent tested)
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<vector80> torindel: Thank you very much, but does it accept /dev/video as the source ?
<torindel> dunno, havent used it
<vector80> Here is the PNG that I captured with my hi253: http://imgur.com/R0GSmeW
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<torindel> vector80: gstreamer have v4l2 plugin too
<torindel> so you can use /dev/video as source
<vector80> Looks promising
<vector80> Another point is, the captured photo is 640x480, but actually sensor is 800x600
<vector80> gzamboni: Seems it need to hack the driver
<vector80> I have a perfectly working hi253.c from android,
<torindel> you can find ffmpeg patches for cedar encode too somewhere, if you want to encode with mplayer
<vector80> which gives me 800x600@30fps
<torindel> just keep in mind ffmpeg changes api often
<vector80> right, gstreamer looks more interesting
<vector80> Again, many many thanks
<vector80> Need to catch Subway now
<vector80> Many thansk to all
<vector80> Have a nice day
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<nove> torindel: There are ffmpeg patches for cedar encoder, where?
<mnemoc> Turl: yes, got my CT over the desk again. but with unholy intentions
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<TuxboxGuru> ssvb: I dont want to use the PRNG in its entirety, but using it as an input to the entropy pool on linux adds quite alot of fuzz in the bucket
<TuxboxGuru> ssvb: reading the rest of your statement, you are quite right
<TuxboxGuru> unless the seed is good, the PRNG is pure cargo
<TuxboxGuru> although it does speed up /dev/random as it isnt waiting for entropy
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<montjoie[home]> time to work on Documentation and dt binding
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<juanfont> tore, nove, ffmpeg-cedar patches? first time I hear about it
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<TuxboxGuru> has anyone used the CedarX with Gstreamer for playback ?
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<WarheadsSE> I think there is something out there.
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<nove> juanfont: i don't know, must be a mistake said by torindel
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<Andy-D> Have any of you had an A13 tablet suddenly start showing up as an Unrecognised USB Device on Windows, or know what might cause that? Failed to root this thing so far and I've tried to reinstall ADB drivers with no success
<Andy-D> tried disabling & re-enabling USB Debugging in the settings too
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<Andy-D> I've been attempting this with very little luck: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2049569 (last two posts in the thread are mine)
<RaYmAn> Did you do anything prior to it happening?
<RaYmAn> install a rom, etc?
<RaYmAn> Android devices show up as whatever USB device the init system sets it to show up as, so if you switched rom, it's certainly possible you need a set of drivers with the VID/PID your device shows up as
<Andy-D> no, nothing was changed prior to it happening
<Andy-D> ADB seemed to be working fine one day, then a couple of days later I find something that might be able to back up its firmware, plug it in, and nothing
<Andy-D> oddly, it reported the same thing if I plugged its micro-usb cable in with nothing on the other end
<RaYmAn> try another cable? =P
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<Andy-D_win> right, so as soon as I plug this tablet in, I get a systray message "USB Device Not Recognized; One of the USB devices attached to this computer has malfunctioned and Windows does not recognize it."
<oliv3r> lo!
<Andy-D_win> and of course, no ADB logo on the android device
<Andy-D_win> and like I said, plugging in just the USB-A to Micro-USB cable without the tablet produces the same message, making me now wonder whether the cable is damaged, while I don't have a spare :|
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<libv> i managed to rescue two comments
<libv> err, 3
<libv> one was in BIG-5 encoding, 2 were in CN-GB
<Andy-D_win> this sounds incredibly stupid, but I'm going to try leaving the laptop's power off for a few minutes as it might be a hardware problem with the USB port
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<oliv3r> libv: hey! how's things!
<oliv3r> i have to tell you, you where right :(
<oliv3r> amazing job -> less time for sunxi :(
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<TuxboxGuru> Has anyone observed the CubieBoard2 hanging after some time? .. the Heartbeat LED flashes, PING works but nothing in Userspace reponds
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<Andy-D_win> welp. that achieved nothing
<Andy-D_win> this is weird & annoying, because the hardware is brand new
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<ssvb> TuxboxGuru: try to run https://github.com/ssvb/lima-memtester/
<ssvb> TuxboxGuru: some of the cubieboard2 devices are unstable out of the box with dram clocked at 480MHz
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<tipolosko> hi :)
<tipolosko> i think i've found the cause of my mk802 unstability
<tipolosko> anyone had problem with asix usb to ethernet devices?
<tipolosko> mine was ASIX AX8817x USB 2.0 Ethernet
<tipolosko> (Sitecom 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter LN-029)
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<tipolosko> now replaced with an ultra-cheap usb-2.0 lan 'li-ul20', with MCS7830 controller
<tipolosko> seems to work better
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<rm> tipolosko, there seems to be a lot of ASIX sub-variants
<rm> and I heard some are indeed less stable than others
<rm> had no problems with MCS7830 myself
<rm> nor with the ASIX that I got on another NIC
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<tipolosko> rm: i agree with you; my variant isn't the one you've listed in your 'USB NICs buyer's guide', but it seems to hang with high loads
<tipolosko> hangs easily with a lot of small i/o
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<tipolosko> bye all, going to bed ;)
<tipolosko> rm: thank you for all your efforts :)
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<syeekick> is there a way i can isntall teamspeak 3 sever on an arm board?
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<syeekick> it's looking like im going to have to compile it from source :(
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<syeekick> is there any more repos i can add for lubuntu armhf?
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<Turl> syeekick: isn't teamspeak proprietary?
<Turl> I can only see x86(_64) binaries on their site
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<syeekick> yeah it is
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<Turl> syeekick: maybe you'll find mumble useful then http://mumble.sourceforge.net/
<syeekick> i wanted to host a teamspeak sever on my cubie truck
<Turl> syeekick: then unless you can get the people behind TS to give you armhf/armel binaries for it, or find/write a compatible server, you'll be out of luck
<syeekick> roger that
<Turl> you can host a murmur server though, and use mumble to speak while gaming with other people
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