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<vishnu_> mripard:ping
<vishnu_> do you think we should make pinctrl driver as builtin_platform_driver?
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<rellla> mmarker: what do you plan to do?
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<mripard> vishnup: that or as modules, both make sense.
<wens> modules probably make sense for distros, with 10+ platforms to support
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<mripard> yes, that's what I'm thinking too
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<RSpliet> bbrezillon: huzzah, it now recognises the NAND chip correctly :-)
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<oliv3r> RSpliet: omw
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<cubeast> Hey, what's this thing about Allwinner R8? It's supposed to be used on the C.H.I.P. $9 board.
<cubeast> any docs on that cpu?
<plaes> no
<oliv3r> cubeast: afaik the A13 is used on the C.H.I.P.
<libv> oliv3r: supposedly a repackaged A13
<libv> but it's been several years, and the thing might not be as compatible to a13 as a10s is
<cubeast> the package is different, it's BGA as far as I can see from the images. A13 is LQFP
<libv> 1y lead time for C.H.I.P.
<libv> cubeast: a10s was bga as well
<libv> but is extremely compatible with A13
<libv> a13 has hdmi btw
<libv> just no pins to export it to the outside
<plaes> and they are claiming it will have HDMI support
<libv> plaes: nope
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<cubeast> the CHIP has a HDMI expansion board afaik
<libv> plaes: it will have a module that takes RGB/clock/sync/io from the lcd connector and turns it into respectively hdmi or vga
<plaes> o_O
<libv> or at least, that is their pipedream
<libv> plaes: pretty much like olimex does vga on the a13 board
<libv> 1y leadtime, claiming to be fully open source
<cubeast> so is this module worth backing or should I go for something else?
<libv> and fully upstream
<cubeast> you can get a lot of modules for 9$ a piece
<plaes> hrm.. I though it was just simple shield with proper routing, required passives and hdmi connector
<plaes> but yeah, there are additional chips
<cubeast> are there any high res images of those modules?
<oliv3r> so how happy are we with the C.H.I.P.?
<oliv3r> are they funneling funds from their kickstarter into sunxi to get some development done
<oliv3r> or are they claiming big things, big cooperations with allwinner, that lead to ... nothing
<plaes> heh.. you know it ;)
<oliv3r> which would be a shame, i hope it brings something productive to the table for the sunxi community
<cubeast> did the authors come into contact yet?
<plaes> nope
<oliv3r> ouch
<cubeast> strange, I would have expected them to come here looking for advice
<oliv3r> is anybody planning anything sunxi for fosdem 2016?
<oliv3r> nah, they have contacts with Allwinner, they'll bring a nice 3.4 kernel to the table and call it a win :)
<cubeast> bleh
<cubeast> I think I'm gonna pass on the kickstarter campaign then
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<libv> oliv3r: i am rather doubtful with these hipsters that they will give back
<oliv3r> well i might be fully wrong and just blurping stuffs here :)
<libv> none of the names seem to match anything sunxi
<libv> so they apparently never tried to contact anyone in the sunxi community or played with our code or anything
<libv> their timeline is very wild for such a simple device
<libv> and their claim of "full open source and mainline" is rather doubtful
<oliv3r> well their kickstarter was a huge success so far
<plaes> they probably don't even know that linux-sunxi exists.. :S
<libv> then there is the cost of the thing
<libv> they chose this price to get the maximum of marketing
<oliv3r> so in that regard, they should start getting in touch
<libv> 20eur shipping to europe
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<libv> that's where they are making money
<plaes> ;)
<plaes> yup
<libv> but their 9usd claim... that got them their marketing
<oliv3r> i guess they are advertising the chip at cost
<libv> this feels so much like an empty box that's purely for marketing reasons
<oliv3r> well lets give it a few weeks time to see what happens, right
<libv> it's been a few weeks already
<oliv3r> :Stime flies
<libv> has anyone seen anything from them apart from more marketing?
<oliv3r> not I :)
<libv> they do not fear the limelight
<oliv3r> anybdoy know wha tthe current mainline status is of mUSB? i know hans was working on it a few months ago
<libv> so why would they not just start asking questions on our ml or do the legwork?
<libv> also, why did they never bother to investigate the allwinner GPL violations issues
<libv> why did they not contact anyone involved with that?
<libv> if they claim to be fully open source and fully mainline, how can this not have shown up on their radar?
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<libv> it's heavily allwinner sponsored marketing fraude
<libv> +A
<libv> if you add everything up, then that's the only conclusion i can reach
<libv> no matter what the simosx's of this world say
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<oliv3r> libv: lol what did somisx say this time around?
<libv> oh, he's going to try to play santa again
<libv> i am not sure what strategy i should take here
<libv> if i do nothing, the hipsters might make a big fool of themselves
<libv> if i call them out, and tell them that they are being heavily scrutinized, they will be extra motivated to finally do the right thing
<libv> in the first case, it is much more likely that simosx will make a fool of himself as well
<libv> in the second, i will be trashed for being nasty and evil, but everyone will be more likely better off
<oliv3r> i'm thinking of sending them an e-mail
<oliv3r> from my @sunxi domain and see what they say
<libv> do so, i know that you are critical and cynical enough to make a big difference and to not be blinded by marketing
<oliv3r> i hope so :p
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<a1d3s> plaes i used hans sunxi-wip and sound will be loaded and probed on banana but no sound
<vishnup> mripard: wens: Should we just make pinctrl tristate?
<mripard> vishnup: yes
<vishnup> don't we need implement .remove?
<mripard> it would be quite simple but yeah.
<vishnup> okie.
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<RSpliet> bbrezillon: NAND partitions seem to be equal on cubietruck and olimex lime
<RSpliet> in other words, the bootloader they use is equal and standard... as expected, but good to know
<plaes> a1d3s: not enough info :S
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<a1d3s> plaes , if driver loaded and probed lxmusic or mplaer didnt start any mp3 , if i used kernel without sound then booth players work
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<a1d3s> think there is something worng with alsa
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<oliv3r> a1d3s: i assume you use the new mainline sound stuff? or is this on 3.4?
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<plaes> mainline
<a1d3s> oliv3r, 4.1 stuff from hans
<oliv3r> cool; gotta update to that sometime soon
<oliv3r> a1d3s: do you know if his next branch also holds the musb patches?
<a1d3s> oliv3r, sorry i didnt know
<oliv3r> yeah i was glanzing over it
<oliv3r> ah no i was glanzing over a diff branch
<oliv3r> yeah this is the stuff i want :)
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<a1d3s> plaes, http://pastebin.com/NHn1DFYN this is from dmesg
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<RSpliet> bbrezillon: does the NFC_SAM bit even exist for you?
<bbrezillon> RSpliet: what do you mean ?
<bbrezillon> what are you trying to do ?
<RSpliet> bbrezillon: long story short: I know absolutely sure my flash chip contains an image with the eGON header... somwhere. So when I can read the header, I know the controller was configured correctly
<RSpliet> right now I read different information... so I'm trying to verify the parameters one by one
<RSpliet> SAM (regular vs. EDO) seemed to be incorrect judging by the ctl reg... so I tried setting it using devmem
<RSpliet> this changed nothing
<RSpliet> this usually means the bit doesn't exist on this piece of HW... which sounds correct, because the boot0 bootloader seems to set NFC_REG_TIMING_CTL bit 8 if EDO (serial read-out) mode should be used
<RSpliet> not NFC_SAM (NFC_REG_CTL bit 12)
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<bbrezillon> RSpliet: what makes you think your NAND should be accessed in EDO mode ?
<RSpliet> the spec sheet
<RSpliet> device identifier, byte 6, bit 6
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<RSpliet> anyway... regardless of whether it should be, sunxi-nand currently seems to do precisely this, it unconditionally sets the NFC_REG_TIMING_CTL bit 8
<RSpliet> which brings me back to my original question: if ^ that is the bit that controls the serial read out mode, and NFC_SAM is forced to 0 in HW... does that latter bit even exist?
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<bbrezillon> RSpliet: I don't know, I guess you're right, which mean this driver only works with EDO capable NAND chip :-/
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<RSpliet> if I find out what's keeping me from reading the right data, I might cook up some patches (... but no promises made, I'm on a tight schedule)
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<bbrezillon> RSpliet: I doubt this is related to EDO mode
<RSpliet> it isn't, I tested it :-)
<bbrezillon> as I said, you need to configure the randomizer and ECC correctly if you want to read the eGON partition
<RSpliet> to the best of my knowledge I did
<bbrezillon> and this is why I told you to base you work on my branch
<RSpliet> I already pulled in your patches
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<bbrezillon> and you defined the bootloader partition with the appropriate ecc and rnd mode (DT definition)
<bbrezillon> ?
<RSpliet> 1024/40 seed <0x4a80>
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<bbrezillon> RSpliet: what about the nand-ecc-mode and nand-randomizer-seeds properties ?
<RSpliet> correct now
<RSpliet> another silly copy-paste error, hw ecc mode was set to hw_syndrome instead of hw (as in cubietruck define)
<RSpliet> funny how I always dive way too deep into details, and completely miss these kind of obvious mistakes :-D
<RSpliet> anyway, yes, it works
<RSpliet> thanks
<nove> mmarker: did you saw this page http://linux-sunxi.org/VE_Planning ? It all depends of what you are aim to do.
<bbrezillon> RSpliet: and you found another bug in my code :-)
<RSpliet> hehe, well, it's half reverse engineering, I know exactly how this code grows one feature at a time :-)
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<RSpliet> bbrezillon: do write operations work for you too?
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<bbrezillon> RSpliet: yep, it did, but that was a long time ago :-)
<RSpliet> unaligned writes too?
<RSpliet> anyway, I'll dive into that next, right now it's not writing anything
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<bbrezillon> RSpliet: on which partition are you trying to write ?
<RSpliet> mtd0
<RSpliet> I also have an exceptionally long list of bad eraseblocks
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<bbrezillon> RSpliet: that's expected
<bbrezillon> you have to patch the kernel to authorize bad block erasure
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<bbrezillon> because the config used to flash the BSP is not keeping bad block markers at 0xff
<bbrezillon> and this is why you're so many bad blocks
<bbrezillon> RSpliet: BTW, have you erased mtd0 before writing on it ?
<RSpliet> I didn't
<RSpliet> "flash_erase: error!: JFFS2 cannot support MLC NAND."
<RSpliet> ... heh
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<RSpliet> ohnm
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<rellla> is there some issue with the mailing list, so quiet ...
<wens> rellla: what do you mean?
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<rellla> wens: whats the last mail?
<wens> would be axp221 patches applied from lee jones
<rellla> wens: thanks. some issue here with imap/pop mixup. sorry for the noise then :p
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<NiteHawk> libv: ping?
<libv> NiteHawk: pong
<NiteHawk> :)
<NiteHawk> i'd just like a quick check on http://linux-sunxi.org/LeMaker_Banana_Pro#Identification - and how to deal with the markings that seem absent now
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<libv> ah
<libv> i do not know why that text got in there in the first place
<NiteHawk> the LeMaker website still shows pictures with them, and you could also glimpse them in the hardware-libre.fr article. maybe they updated the PCB?
<libv> was there a version of the pro which had those markers?
<NiteHawk> i put it there originally...
<libv> ah, ok, i thought that perhaps this was haphazardly copied from a non pro banana pi device page
<NiteHawk> nope.
<libv> NiteHawk: then add that some devices have it and some dont
<NiteHawk> yeah, that might do.
<libv> and add an {Edit|Which devices?} to that sentence to mark that we have currently no idea about why this is so
<NiteHawk> ok, will do so!
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<libv> thanks :)
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<a1d3s> NiteHawk, the pictures from my banana pro
<a1d3s> *are*
<a1d3s> i have banana pi and m2 here too
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<NiteHawk> a1d3s: which is perfectly fine, thanks for uploading :) we're just puzzed by the absence of the "BANANA PRO" text on the bottom (which shows on other device pictures from the BPro)
<NiteHawk> a1d3s: hey, mind if i crop and re-upload a portion of your front side image to display the UART pads?
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<plaes> rellla: thanks for the "upside-down" change.. I never had balls to do it :)
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<a1d3s> NiteHawk, do what are needed :)
<NiteHawk> a1d3s: thanks, that'll help to improve the page (step by step)
<a1d3s> NiteHawk, if i can help then i do so :)
<a1d3s> but im not a dev ;)
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<zerotri> Hello. My name is Wynter Woods and I'm a software developer at Next Thing Company. As is clear from reading some of the logs, several of you are already aware that someone would be coming your way wanting to discuss getting CHIP supported as best as we can. That's my job for the next few months. I've already been contacted by Hans de Goede on the matter but I would also like to have some discussions with some other people in here;
<zerotri> notably libv.
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<khuey> zerotri: there's a mailing list you might be more likely to get a response on
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