avsm changed the topic of #mirage to: Good news everyone! Mirage 3.0 released!
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<reynir> Morning! I'm in VIE waiting for my flight to Marrakesh o/
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<apache3> !!
<apache3> catch you on the flipside
<apache3> I ended up paying 150 dirham for the taxi
<apache3> the taxi driver and his two mates got super aggressive
<apache3> we agreed on 50 before he started driving
<apache3> btw did someone grown-up see lars_kurth's message about mirage + gsoc?
<haesbaert> apache3: that's fucked up, I payed 70
<apache3> Haha, it's ok, would have been the same back home
<apache3> it was mostly the "three dudes yelling angrily in french"-part that was a bit distressing
<lars_kurth> apache3: re gsoc - Mindy is picking this up
<apache3> cool!
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<haesbaert> apache3: I payed 150 last year so it happens to us all :D
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<apache3> :)
<apache3> see you tomorrow night! :)
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<DrWhax> ohai
<yomimono> ohai!
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<yomimono> Hi folks!
<djwillia> hi!
<yomimono> Sorry for the very late announcement, but we'll be having our biweekly catchup right about now.
<amirmc> hi!
<yomimono> If you have items to add to the agenda, or you'd like to have a look, it's at the top of this page: https://github.com/mirage/mirage-www/wiki/Call-Agenda .
<yomimono> We're a bit shorthanded both because of the late announcement, and because many people are traveling today or have just arrived at the hack retreat, so I expect it to be a short catchup :)
<yomimono> first on the agenda -- this is our first catchup since MirageOS 3 was released on Thursday of last week :D
<amirmc> Yay!
<yomimono> as perhaps you have seen from the shiny new /topic !
<yomimono> thanks a ton, amirmc, for doing the coordination and press work :)
<amirmc> I'm glad it landed in time. :)
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<yomimono> we have a few folks going through the new tutorial & building their first Mirage 3 unikernels at the hack retreat :D I expect lots of issues and PRs
<avsm> hello! Sounds like network connectivity is great at the retreat :-)
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<yomimono> errrrrrrr
<yomimono> wellllllll
<yomimono> not exactly ;)
<yomimono> but good enough, maybe!
<yomimono> I put an agenda item for hack retreat discussion on the end of the agenda, but the only other item is Irmin 1.0 (yay!)
<yomimono> I don't see samoht here, so I can't congratulate/thank him :(
<amirmc> I added an item, which we can cover before or after the hack retreat
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<thomasga> Bonjour!
<avsm> Speak of the unicolonel, and he arrives!
<mort___> .
<yomimono> bonjour, monsieur!
<yomimono> thomasga: I put an agenda item up for Irmin 1.0 - congratulations & thank you :)
<thomasga> Thanks :-)
<avsm> Yes! A huge milestone :-) Also interesting to see KC's ezirmin layer
<thomasga> I am writing a blog post, I have an early draft available somewhere
<avsm> he told me he's going to port it to Irmin 1.0 soon, and he has a bunch of notes on the API that he will mail to the miragos-devel list soon
<thomasga> I am looking for a better running example than "distributed metric collection"
<thomasga> avsm: great!
<thomasga> hopefully he likes it better than the pre-1.0 API
<thomasga> anyone using the new API is welcome to send some feedback. I am pretty ok (and happy) to make a quick 1.1 release with the feedback if needed.
<avsm> yeah, but he ran into a few issues when setting up a large distributed cluster
<avsm> so I guess post-1.0 Irmin will be the multi-host modes :-)
<thomasga> yup, the "distributed" part is not as well tested than the rest
<thomasga> I am really looking forward having a Git server implementation
<thomasga> so we can sort all of this out more easily
<thomasga> Fortunately dinosaure is making a lot of progress :-)
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<yomimono> :D
<yomimono> he is hacking hard RIGHT NOW.
<avsm> glad to hear it :-)
<yomimono> everyone OK to move on?
* yomimono waits for latency bar to drop to 0
<avsm> +1
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<yomimono> must be fine! next item is the hack retreat - a bunch of us are here. afaik there's not a dedicated canopy instance like we had last time, but we can try to get one with the mirage 3 patches
<yomimono> a bunch of rad T-shirts just arrived - thanks gemma! :D
<yomimono> thanks again to hannes for organizing. :)
<yomimono> I am done talking now!
<avsm> Would the existing Canopy not work?
<avsm> Or do you need a local one due to latency?
<amirmc> More t-shirts arriving on Friday
<yomimono> Is the existing one running Mirage3 + Irmin1?
<avsm> It would be great if you could capture the early user experiences -- feel free to dump them into emails to me if there's nowhere else to put them :-)
<amirmc> Existing canopy probably isn't on Mirage3 yet
<avsm> Also: if anyone wants to test `opam2 build` that would be awesome
<avsm> yomimono: amirmc: its still on mirage too, but its the live one
<avsm> you should be able to git clone the repo and merge all your stuff in there, and push to live mirage/canopy-data whenever you have net
<amirmc> Support was added though (by thomasga)
<yomimono> Sounds good :D
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<amirmc> Last item on the agenda is blog posts.
<amirmc> i.e. who can write some and by when :)
<amirmc> So far we've had content by Hannes, Mindy, and Thomas. Is there anyone else who can write up something related to Mirage 3?
<avsm> I'm working on documenting the CI at the moment so I can hand it off to more people :)
<avsm> so could be a spinoff post about how that works on mirage.io, but am focussing on actual docs content
<amirmc> avsm: docs first makes sense but can we commit to a date for a post? Otherwise this might get forgotten. I tried to make a schedule but it's pretty thin (https://github.com/mirage/mirage-www/issues/513)
<avsm> I can't commit at the moment sadly -- but I'll update the issue when I make progress. I've got a stack of infrastructure work (like fixing up docs.mirage.io) that takes priority at the moment
<avsm> Would be great to see more articles from the newcomers though -- anyone at the retreat who'd be willing to narrate their projects?
<amirmc> If there's anyone else who has things they can write up, please do post on that issue.
<amirmc> Happy to help copy/edit with enough notice (i.e. couple of days).
<avsm> thanks! I'm on a campaign to document the project infrastructure :-)
<avsm> yomimono: the more i think about it, the more a clone of mirage/canopy-data makes sense
<avsm> you dont need an actual live copy of canopy running there
<yomimono> no, what I'm proposing is port canopy to mirage3 + irmin1, host that somewhere else
<amirmc> You should only need to push git logs, right? Unless I misunderstood how canopy works.
<yomimono> the net is fine for stuff like git push/git pull
<yomimono> it's just not great for realtime stuff
<avsm> ah i see -- do you have a machine you can host a git server on?
<avsm> sorry, a canopy/mirage server
<yomimono> can repurpose an aws instance
<avsm> (since you can use the live github.com/mirage/canopy-data for the content)
<amirmc> Is there much work needed for a port?
<yomimono> oh, this *is* ported for irmin1
<yomimono> I thought for some reason this was either almost-mirage3 or mirage3 without irmin1
<amirmc> Indeed. So should just need to be built.
<amirmc> And presumably pointed at canopy-data
<amirmc> And run from somewhere
<yomimono> https://github.com/Engil/Canopy/pull/62 should be closed I think
<avsm> closed
<yomimono> thanks :)
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<yomimono> I don't have any problem with just replacing canopy.mirage.io with the irmin1 + mirage3 version, but I don't know who's managing that
<amirmc> Replacing would be ideal.
<thomasga> yomimono: the dev version of canopy already works with Irmin1 + mirage3
<yomimono> I clearly know the least about the current state of this of anyone in the conversation, so tell me what to do and I'll do it :)
<thomasga> (and I don't have access to that repo or to the domain name), I think Hannes has all the keys
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<thomasga> (or Engil)
<amirmc> I don't think it's hannes :)
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<amirmc> I think we're done with the agenda items, right?
<yomimono> thomasga: what's "the dev version"? I don't see any releases or a dev branch?
<yomimono> or is that just master on engil/canopy?
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<thomasga> yes sorry, it's just master
<yomimono> thanks :)
<amirmc> I've gotta go. I'l bring 15 t-shirts with me to Marrakech. I hope people can remember their sizes.
<yomimono> my torso may have changed size since arriving at priscilla ;)
<amirmc> There's probably a joke in here about tagines and 'you are what you eat'. I look forward to joining that club :P
<yomimono> amirmc and anyone else who's still on their way, we look forward to your arrival :)
<yomimono> I think the meeting might be over!
<amirmc> Slightly off-topic question then. How did people get from the airport to the medina and how much didi it cost?
<djwillia`> thanks all, have fun at the retreat and sorry to be missing it!
<yomimono> djwillia: we're sorry you're missing it too! :(
<yomimono> amirmc: good price is 70 dirham, but some people have paid 100-150
<yomimono> sorry, those are taxi prices
<yomimono> there's also a bus, which mattg took
<yomimono> talex5 walked and arrived kinda sweaty and possibly dehydrated, can't say I'd recommend it
<amirmc> Useful info, thanks!
<amirmc> bye for now
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