DocScrutinizer05 changed the topic of #neo900 to: http://neo900.org | conversations are logged to http://infobot.rikers.org/%23neo900/ and http://irclog.whitequark.org/neo900
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<timclass1c> I found my Dad's old HP 16C calculator. This thing is amazing.
<Oksana> ;-)
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<jonwil> hi
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<DocScrutinizer05> hehe http://www.hpmuseum.org/hp16.htm
* DocScrutinizer05 feels tempted to get a HP48GX
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<farknfart> so will the neo900 be having its own injection molded cases?
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<farknfart> or will the neo900 be using recycled n900 cases from hk etc
<DocScrutinizer05> the latter
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<DocScrutinizer05> building our own molds is waaay too expensive for the number of devices we hope to build
<farknfart> what about the lens
<DocScrutinizer05> ?
<farknfart> will they be el cheapos or carl zeiss
<farknfart> camera
<DocScrutinizer05> the camera modules are basically identical to N900
<DocScrutinizer05> incl Zeiss lens
<DocScrutinizer05> we are using N97 spare cam modules which are easier to mount nd cheaper, but use same camera
<farknfart> ok so you wont be running into any copyright issues w/ nokia using recycled cases
<DocScrutinizer05> N97 cam == N900 cam with attached flex cable
<DocScrutinizer05> no, we won't
<farknfart> how many number of devices do you hope to build
<DocScrutinizer05> we hope for 1000 in first batch. So fare we have 400+ preorders
<DocScrutinizer05> so far*
<DocScrutinizer05> for a second batch we would need to go for our own selfmade cases etc since no sufficient number of N900 to revanp available
<DocScrutinizer05> *maybe* we can boost first batch to 1500 even
<farknfart> will you make enough profit to beable to invest in injection molding rnd?
<DocScrutinizer05> no
<DocScrutinizer05> but we can find venture capital when we demonstrated we can pull off
<farknfart> so what your gonna hire a carpenter?
<farknfart> ahh
<DocScrutinizer05> it's pretty easy to find capital when you have a clear plan and all you need are molds
<DocScrutinizer05> easy math
<farknfart> so does that mean if u pull it off you would release something based on a more recent cpu?
<jonsger> DocScrutinizer05: how far is the webshop?
<DocScrutinizer05> that's future project internally called STEP2 so far
<farknfart> internal huh? i thought neo900 was a community effort and everytging was 'open'
<DocScrutinizer05> jonsger: alas it's stale since 3 days, I been out of order yesterday and busy with other stuff the two days before. It's almost done, just needs adding a 1€-voucher product of which you can buy as many as you need to pay to top up your former payment to new threshold
<DocScrutinizer05> farknfart: huh?
<DocScrutinizer05> farknfart: please try a less offensive tone
<jonsger> oh cool ;)
<farknfart> ok... sorry what is step2
<DocScrutinizer05> I will manually convert vouchers and previos payments into down payment for the real product you want
<DocScrutinizer05> step2 is a project discussed in public related to what might follow after Neo900
<farknfart> oh yeah ... is it a separate thread to the 5000 mile neo900 thread on maemo...
<farknfart> ie where can i find out about it
<farknfart> ok
<farknfart> thnx
<DocScrutinizer05> yw
<farknfart> o ok... it is the 5000 mile long neo900 thread
<bencoh> :]
<bencoh> I dream of a newsgroup+news2web and back instead of tmo ... :)
<DocScrutinizer05> bencoh: I'm also not really happy with tmo, but it has hysterical raisins
<DocScrutinizer05> and well, it works for now
<bencoh> yay raisins *nom*
<bencoh> hmm, why is there a link to (commercial product) cryptocult in your post ?
<DocScrutinizer05> because they contacted us?
<DocScrutinizer05> they uttered interest to port their OS (or whatever it is) to Neo900
<DocScrutinizer05> I don't mind when they do, actually welcoming it
<farknfart> so will neo9001 be able to run sailfishos
<DocScrutinizer05> yes, why not
<DocScrutinizer05> when somebody ports it
<farknfart> will it have hdmi out
<DocScrutinizer05> however aiui sailfish basing on android RIL, so somebody needs to write such RIL for Neo900 first
<bencoh> same with cryptocult
<DocScrutinizer05> no hdmi out, since we can't cram it in and hdmi has ... issues. We'll see how well USB displaylink pans out
<bencoh> anyway, not our business :)
<DocScrutinizer05> bencoh: exactly
<farknfart> i think thats more for running on originally android phones
<DocScrutinizer05> displaylink?
<farknfart> no sailfishos depending on android libs
<DocScrutinizer05> not our business either
<bencoh> looks like locusf's work :)
<DocScrutinizer05> when you want to port sailfish to Neo900 you're welcome to do so - we provide all the needed hw docs. For requirements on OS side - like RIL - please ask in appropriate sailfish/nemo related channels
<farknfart> ko0l
<DocScrutinizer05> ??
<farknfart> ?
<DocScrutinizer05> farknfart: you're aware that Neo900 is a hw platform not shipping with any particular OS, just like a e,g, ASUS PC motherboard?
<farknfart> like tge raspberry pi... yes
<DocScrutinizer05> my sarcasm alarm jelled on your "ko0l"
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<farknfart> you might wanna train that thing for false positives
<DocScrutinizer05> :-)
* bencoh adds a bayesian filter to DocScrutinizer05
<DocScrutinizer05> thanks, now I see clear again. Looking at clock I clearly see shopping is urgently pending, or no food and coffe over the weekend
<DocScrutinizer05> :-)
<DocScrutinizer05> o/
<farknfart> so whos working on the os for the neo900 if any...
<farknfart> will it boot maemo?
<DocScrutinizer05> ~fptf
<infobot> rumour has it, fptf is the Fremantle Porting Task Force, see http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91308
<DocScrutinizer05> ask freemangordon - he's "chief"
<DocScrutinizer05> yes, maemo is supposed to be (primary, recommended) OS
<DocScrutinizer05> after all we put great effort into keeping Neo900 binary compatible to maemo5 fremantle
<DocScrutinizer05> to the extent where we even copy hw quirks that could get done smarter nowadays
<DocScrutinizer05> like audio
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<farknfart> master chief freemangordon... lol ok
<DocScrutinizer05> otoh OS for GolDeliCo GTA04 are supposed to work OOTB more or less
<DocScrutinizer05> and e.g. the Replicant developer already announced he definitely wants to support Neo900 too
<farknfart> is replicant still around...?
<farknfart> good to know
<DocScrutinizer05> I'd say it is
<DocScrutinizer05> afk, sorry
<jonsger> oh Neo900 with replicant would be nice ^^
<DocScrutinizer05> s/would/will/ ;-D
<farknfart> meh to droid/droid clones
<farknfart> or anything written in java
<farknfart> would be cool to see an os written in golang
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<freemangordon> oh, this guy for real (golang)? we'd better use php
<DocScrutinizer05> nevermind
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