<Arch-TK>
I have to fit my work address in two address lines!?!?!
<Arch-TK>
crazy
<Arch-TK>
crazy I say!
<DocScrutinizer05>
Arch-TK: sorry? can I help?
<Arch-TK>
DocScrutinizer05: It's fine, I think I can manage to fit my work address into these two lines you provide.
<Arch-TK>
DocScrutinizer05: If I can't, I'll just send you an email about it or something.
<DocScrutinizer05>
it's prestashop
<DocScrutinizer05>
for now address is rather irrelevant since we don't ship any goods yet. You can update/fix your shipping addr any time up to final order
<DocScrutinizer05>
if you can't fit addr into the given form, please use "see note" instead and attach a freetext note to your order
<DocScrutinizer05>
please do that only when absolutely necessary, it will break our scripts
<DocScrutinizer05>
if you need newlines in a single text field, please use "\n", we will understand what's intended ;-)
<Arch-TK>
I made a note that if you guys want you can put the <road> on a separate line from the <building and unit number>
<Arch-TK>
Paypal payments work yet?
<DocScrutinizer05>
paypal "works", at least from your perspective. Though we *really* prefer bank wire transfer if any feasible and not damaged by NN% fees
<Arch-TK>
I'm not sure what kind of conversion fee my credit card company would give me.
<Arch-TK>
I've also never in my life done a normal wire transfer so I would have no clue what I'm doing.
<DocScrutinizer05>
the conversion fee is usually negligible compared to insane fees for the wire transfer from e.g. USA to Europe
<Arch-TK>
oh, I live in the UK
<Arch-TK>
has anyone in the UK complained of insane fees?
<DocScrutinizer05>
then wire transfer really is preferred
<DocScrutinizer05>
even cheaper than PP
<DocScrutinizer05>
SEPA bank money transfer, inner-EU
<DocScrutinizer05>
just works
<Arch-TK>
I have no idea how to do that.
<Arch-TK>
:P
<Arch-TK>
"balance transfer" sounds like the button to click
<DocScrutinizer05>
you fill in the usual money transfer form of your bank. Just provide IBAN and BIC
<Arch-TK>
hmm, I wonder if my credit card company even allows this, I think I'll just have to pay from my debit card / bank account
<DocScrutinizer05>
yes, bank account. Credit Card is a PP payment
<DocScrutinizer05>
even worse than regular PP since it has more limitations on our side, regarding availability and risk, which PP of course loads off to us
<DocScrutinizer05>
processing CC payments is one huge mess, to avoid/detect/revert fraud etc
<Arch-TK>
oh, no, the credit card is linked to an account, as is the debit card, paypal has nothing to do with either, it's just that the web interface for the bank providing my credit account does not seem to allow money transfers, but I know from previous exploration that the one from my debit card bank does.
<Arch-TK>
unless you're saying that you can't do a transfer from a credit account, in which case: I don't know.
<DocScrutinizer05>
PP involved into CC payment on our side
<Arch-TK>
oh, right.
<Arch-TK>
heh passwd is too long. Maximum length: 32
<DocScrutinizer05>
sorry. Prestashop
<Arch-TK>
and a validation link larger than the width of my screen so mutt screws it up, I'm SURE mutt has a way of opening links through hints I just need to read the manual :D
<DocScrutinizer05>
really sorry to hear the shop causes inconvenience. We had our share of such inconvenience with setting it up. Alas we didn't find a better solution
<Arch-TK>
:P
<DocScrutinizer05>
if you give me your login email addr, I can enable/verify the account for you
<Arch-TK>
It's fine, it doesn't matter that much, I'm just making a big deal out of nothing.
<Arch-TK>
Just you watch, next I'll find a pixel is out of alignment
<DocScrutinizer05>
I bet you do :-)
<DocScrutinizer05>
there are lots to find
<DocScrutinizer05>
post me your email addr in /query and I'll enable the account. No need to click on verify-link
<Arch-TK>
It's fine, I clicked the link using the faster method of opening up my webmail.
<Arch-TK>
for phone numbers should I prefix them with the country code?
<Arch-TK>
Does it matter?
<DocScrutinizer05>
:-) yeah seems we have a new activated customer
<DocScrutinizer05>
we prolly won't give you a phonecall for now. It might matter later when we send the parcels, for the carrier. They sometimes require phone number
<DocScrutinizer05>
:-)
<DocScrutinizer05>
you're lucky, you still get a N900 mech set from first batch - if you order complete device
<Arch-TK>
Oh, no, I'll be ordering the bare board.
<DocScrutinizer05>
:-)
<Arch-TK>
Now I just need to find a red piece of plastic with a screen and some buttons because my bank insists that a piece of plastic you lose all the time is more secure than a 64 character password stored gpg encrypted in a pass password database encrypted by a GPG key stored on a yubikey which is secured by a 6 digit pin and attaches to a keychain.
<DocScrutinizer05>
hmm yeah, sometimes they have weird ideas
<DocScrutinizer05>
(yubikey) you might be interested in werner's other project: anelok
<Arch-TK>
Interesting. Anyway, I found the thing.
<Arch-TK>
hmm, I think I found the right thing (So far it has asked for an IBAN and a BIC for a bank and and I can pass a message) but it asking for the full address of the beneficiary
<DocScrutinizer05>
it really doesn't matter in real life, even when you add random noise text for addr. Anyway the addr is in the impressum
<Arch-TK>
which part of that is the post code?
<DocScrutinizer05>
the ZIP?
<DocScrutinizer05>
D-90429
<Arch-TK>
apparently "it can only contain numbers and letters" can I drop the - ?
<DocScrutinizer05>
yes, D- is basically cruft
<Arch-TK>
what would you say is "Address line 1" and "Address line 2" ?
<Arch-TK>
German addresses (as I've found when dealing with a german company before) are _very_ different to anything I've ever seen in poland and in the UK.
<Arch-TK>
heh "You have entered one or more of the following characters: <>"' % ^ ? ! &. Please delete any of these characters and try again. (TFX33)" - it's complaining about the umlaut
<Arch-TK>
it asks for the zip afterwards, do I put the zip in on the line or just keep it separate?
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<DocScrutinizer05>
(unlaut) that's why I always use transcription (ue). Zip: put it where it asks for, or in front of City when it doesn't ask for any ZIP
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<DocScrutinizer05>
honestly that address field is cruft, not needed anymore with SEPA
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<DocScrutinizer05>
the IBAN has a checksum which guarantees there's a valid and sufficiently unique and specific destination 'address' for SEPA to process the transaction
<DocScrutinizer05>
even the BIC is redundancy
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<DocScrutinizer05>
it's embedded in IBAN as well
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<DocScrutinizer05>
76070025 == DEUTDEDBxxx
<DocScrutinizer05>
24 even
<DocScrutinizer05>
DE55 is country code and checksum
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<Arch-TK>
And that's sent.
<DocScrutinizer05>
:-) thanks for supporting this project!
<Arch-TK>
The ETA is still 1st quarter of next year right?
<DocScrutinizer05>
NeoNDOWN PAYMENT NeoN bare board-102
<DocScrutinizer05>
+1EURDown Payment top up-8169
<Arch-TK>
almost 300 / 400
<heinrich5991>
does the neo900 phone address the issue of tracking by cell phone towers?
<heinrich5991>
I don't really know a lot about that, I guess you can't be tracked by those if you disable the modem?
<Arch-TK>
well, no, you can't,
<DocScrutinizer05>
latest news: the wl1273 WLAN module is impossible to source, we will go for wl1837: http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/wl1837mod.pdf And since this has no FM, we gonna use a FM-transceiver chip instead of FMTX-chip: http://www.silabs.com/Support Documents/TechnicalDocs/Si4720-21-B20.pdf
<Arch-TK>
But if I remember correctly, trilateration is an intrinsic part of the process of gsm communication, so you can't stop it when you're making a call / have the modem turned on. (AFAIK)
<DocScrutinizer05>
exactly
<heinrich5991>
yea, that makes sense
<heinrich5991>
when you're not making calls and if you're not interested in receiving calls, the communication with the cell phone towers could essentially be shut down, right?
<Oksana>
Yes, by switching off power-to-modem, at least
<Oksana>
Also, it might be possible to separate modem from its cellular antennae, but I am not sure
<Oksana>
The userscase would be to use GPS (inside modem chip) without communicating with cellular tower(s)
<DocScrutinizer05>
heinrich5991: we even can support passive standby so inbound calls would still work, and yet the modem does not *talk* to the BTS and thus doesn't disclose your location. Obviously this is limited to those 2 points: you can't leave the "Local area" (an area of BTSes with same Area Code) since you would lose connectivity outside the Local Area, and you can't receive calls without disclosing your actual position
<Oksana>
So if you click Accept, you disclose position, but if you click reject, you do not disclose position?
<DocScrutinizer05>
Oksana: no, we don't support the "separate from GSM antenna" feature, we rely on our monitoring to detect when modem starts misbehaving (which it shouldn't for the Airplane mode anyway) and cut complete modem power when modem tries to send GSM RF
<Oksana>
Or does any inbound call, regardless of what you choose to click, disclose your actual position? | Okay. Not enough space (or CPU wires) to add yet another switch?