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<gl> ocaml won the icfp.
<MegaWatS> we know :)
<gl> great :)
<MegaWatS> \o/
<gl> it's again the "programming tool of choice for discriminating hackers"
<MegaWatS> o//
<MegaWatS> \\o
<MegaWatS> :p
<MegaWatS> and after some initial difficulties, my own little personal project is now on the right track again, too ... all is well :)
<gl> what kind of project ?
<MegaWatS> a game
<MegaWatS> a multiplayer game :)
<gl> with ocamlsdl ?
<MegaWatS> no
<MegaWatS> with lablgtk
<gl> ok
<MegaWatS> it's not a kind of action game
<MegaWatS> it's a card game
<MegaWatS> so a true gui will be more comfortable
<gl> i see
<MegaWatS> I want to do something better than apprentice, you see
<gl> yeah
<MegaWatS> you know that program ? apprentice?
<MegaWatS> yup :)
<MegaWatS> and well that program is not really the most stable one in the world^^
<MegaWatS> or, the most feature-rich
<gl> :)
<MegaWatS> or ... well the list of complaints is long :p
<MegaWatS> so, do you play magic?
<gl> if i have the time, i'd like to re-code my doom-like, in ocaml
<MegaWatS> i see
<gl> when i was young :)
<MegaWatS> someone already did this once
<MegaWatS> a doom-like game
<MegaWatS> I think it would be more worthwhile, these days, to do something true 3d
<gl> i played until 1996, i think
<MegaWatS> it shouldn't be too difficult anyway
<MegaWatS> yeah it's a real waste of moneys isn't it?
<MegaWatS> i stopped playing in real life a long time ago too
<MegaWatS> about the same time
<gl> i earned more than i lost :)
<MegaWatS> but kinda recently I discovered apprentice
<MegaWatS> a few months ago - and I thought that really nice
<MegaWatS> but now, for a few weeks, I'm writing my own version of it because it really doesn't live up to the potential such a program might have
<gl> do you have a web-page ?
<MegaWatS> i see :)
<MegaWatS> no
<MegaWatS> do you?
<gl> hum.. try ie2.u-psud.fr/~leconte .. but it's quite.. empty
<MegaWatS> I see
<gl> :)
<MegaWatS> doesn't load
<MegaWatS> well personally I wouldn't have much use for a page, so I haven't made one :)
<gl> idem
<MegaWatS> well no, couldn't say that that's much :]
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<boltion> why ocaml?
<boltion> oh, thats why. losers
<smkl> umm?
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<two-face> glop
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<two-face> hi brian
<mr_bubbs> hello
<mr_bubbs> how is it going?
<two-face> not too bad
<mr_bubbs> great
<mr_bubbs> I'm just contemplating a network framework in OCaml, atm
<mr_bubbs> you?
<two-face> i'm finnishing debian packages for cameleon
<mr_bubbs> ahh
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<zack> two-face: hi
<two-face> hello
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<Segora> hmm
<ionOS> good morning alltogether
<Segora> do I have to specify anything special when I use the string module (open Str) and want to link bytecode? I always get 'Reference to undefined global `Str'' :/
<ionOS> anyone cares to recommend some must-read books on ocaml/caml?
<Segora> morning... well (3:12 pm over here) *g*
<ionOS> just got outta bed - 9am
<ionOS> beautiful sunday morning ;-)
<Segora> the morning's been nice, true. but now the sun is obscured by clouds.
<pnou> you must link your program with str.cma
<pnou> ocamlc str.cma ...
<Segora> this isn't done automatically? ah... thank you, pnou.
<pnou> no because Str is not part of the standard library
<Segora> ah. well ok, even in haskell i would have to specify -package text for regex functions.
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<hsaliak> Hello.
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<smkl> here is my gui library: http://kokatrix.sf.net/guilib-0.1.tar.gz ... it's built on top of lablgtk and it's a bit similar to configwin. i haven't written any documentation yet because i don't know if the library is useful for anyone
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<two-face> hi smkl
<smkl> hey
<smkl> here is a gui library i wrote to be able to edit the configurations in my game: http://kokatrix.sf.net/guilib-0.1.tar.gz ... it's built on top of lablgtk and it's a bit similar to configwin. i haven't written any documentation yet because i don't know if the library is useful for anyone
<two-face> nice :)
<two-face> I add a bookmark
<smkl> it's main feature is that it's possible to define editors for records and sums easily ...
<smkl> there is a camlp4 quotation like: <:rfield<a_field>> that expands into: (fun a -> a.a_field), (fun a b -> {a with a_field=b})
<smkl> it could be made even easier with camlp4 but there is some other data that is needed
<two-face> i don't know anything of camlp4 :p
<two-face> BTW, Daniel's rants on caml-list is a pity :-(
<two-face> (are)
<smkl> yes ...
<pnou> that's what xavier said about camlp4 that is a pity
<two-face> i think Daniel instead of shuting up, makes himself ennemies
<smkl> what did xavier say?
<pnou> he's making himself ennemies because he can't explain the whole story
<pnou> that camlp4 was useless
<smkl> so he actually said that and not just that revised syntax is a waste of time?
<two-face> Daniel should never had brought this to the list
<pnou> yes, he said that syntax stuffs are a waster of time
<pnou> and other things like that
<pnou> Daniel just said what he want to do with camlp4
<pnou> and why
<pnou> it's miam time :)
<two-face> ok :)
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<two-face> pnou_:
<two-face> From: Daniel de Rauglaudre <daniel.de_rauglaudre@inria.fr>
<two-face> To: caml-list@inria.fr
<two-face> Subject: [Caml-list] Threats on future of Camlp4
<mmc> is it too hard to make ocaml binding to kde/qt ?
<two-face> i started something like that :)
<two-face> i made a C layer first
<mmc> why ?
<two-face> because you cannot binding ocaml to c++ directly
<two-face> s/binding/bind/
<pnou_> i don't understand Daniel's article, he should explain what he call « that »
<two-face> pnou_: i think he went too far
<pnou_> i agree
<two-face> btw, i think you received my mail?
<pnou_> yes, i will check that tomorrow
<two-face> good, i'm ready to release test packages
<pnou_> great :)
<two-face> mmc: a Qt binding is also a huge job
<pnou_> yep, but it would be so wonderful
<two-face> pnou_: i started such stuff, i still have files on my system :)
<pnou_> if you release it i would be one of your greatest fan :)
<two-face> i think it cannot be a one man show :)
<pnou_> yep it's huge, maybe i could look at what you've done?
<pnou_> we'll talk about that later, i'm sick and i need to have a rest
<two-face> ok c you
<Segora> hmm. a debian packaged version of the mysql interface would be nice... anyway, for now I use a manually installed version.
<Segora> <- $HOME
<two-face> ?
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<rvm> is this channel for general ocaml questions?
<two-face> it is
<two-face> unfortunately, all the ocaml aces have gone
<rvm> hehe, ok.. i am new to ocaml.. for some reason the default install isn't finding module Unix
<rvm> but it appears to be there, anybody know the prob?
<two-face> what happened?
<rvm> Reference to undefined global `Unix
<two-face> how do you get this?
<rvm> open Unix
<rvm> or Unix.fork()
<two-face> in the toplevel ?
<rvm> yeah
<mr_bubbs> #load "unix.cma" ;;
<two-face> run: ocaml unix.cma
<two-face> :)
<rvm> heh
<mr_bubbs> :)
<rvm> for some reason i was under the assumption that 'open Unix' by itself would have loaded it
<mr_bubbs> yeah.. kinda weird :)
<two-face> i think it is for safety
<two-face> hence you know you what you use
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<two-face> bye
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<Yurik> re
<Yurik> damn, damn. I've deleted part of sources of new Berkeley DB wrapper accidentally :-((
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<mmc> that's sad, Berk. DB is on top of my plans w/ ocaml.