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<geckosen1tor> is ocaml related to haskell?
<simon> they are both functional programming languages.
<geckosen1tor> I don't know either very well.. which one is suggested to learn first?
<geckosen1tor> hmm i'm asking bad questions.. i'll just read the book
<simon> there are tutorials available for both that you should be able to complete within hours.
<geckosen1tor> are they the ones in the topic?
<geckosen1tor> or can you give me a link?
<geckosen1tor> the link that says to gives me a free book actually goes to a mailing list
<simon> the ocaml oreilly book: http://caml.inria.fr/pub/docs/oreilly-book/
<geckosen1tor> ok cool.. that one appears to be a book
<geckosen1tor> well thanks
<geckosen1tor> that should keep me busy for a while
<simon> geckosen1tor, for haskell, you can find various introductions on haskell.org
<geckosen1tor> I read a few actually.. but I can't seem to find my haskell compiler
<geckosen1tor> I'm told ocaml is faster
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<simon> the benchmarks I've seen suggests that.
<geckosen1tor> is it possible to write self-modifying code easily in ocaml?
<simon> what is self-modifying code, again?
<geckosen1tor> it's code that modifies itself
<geckosen1tor> hmm.. that was a bad definition :-P
<geckosen1tor> it's easy to do in assembly.. just modify the memory in the code space
<geckosen1tor> not so easy in most languages
<simon> oh. I don't think you can easily do that. lisp, tcl and ruby are good examples, aren't they?
<geckosen1tor> I don't know tcl or ruby very well
<geckosen1tor> but I think lisp does it
<simon> well, most interpreted languages allow you to rewrite functions at run-time.
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<Submarine> Lisp definitely does it.
<Submarine> In Java, you can also do it.
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<Submarine> In OCaml. it's possible but not so easy.
<geckosen1tor> Submarine: how do you do it in java?
<Submarine> geckosen1tor, by generating bytecode, possibly with a library or even with the javac class, then loading it
<geckosen1tor> Submarine: then modifying the bytecode?
<geckosen1tor> Submarine: well that isn't an efficient way to do it though
<Submarine> no no
<geckosen1tor> I have done this in c also.. it works but it's slow
<Submarine> every time you need a different code, you generate different bytecode
<geckosen1tor> since you have to recompile every time
<Submarine> not really
<Submarine> you generate bytecode directly
<Submarine> so you just have the JIT
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<Mozillion> maybe a silly question, but I am debugging a program and some variables don't seem to be able to be deep-printed
<Mozillion> I get env : Ast.env = {labels = <abstr>; identifiers = <abstr>}
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<Mozillion> ah it doesn't see through abstract interfaces, hmm
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<Psychotic> Anyone For Help ?
<dylan> Psychotic: most people are are computer scientists, not psychologists? ;)
<dylan> s/are/here/
<Psychotic> hehehe
<Psychotic> Sorry but i have a problem with my ubuntu
<Psychotic> can u help me about that ?
<dylan> Is this a problem with ocaml on ubuntu? Or what?
<Psychotic> No i guess its something stupid but am a Newbie so that's it
<dylan> well, I'd ask in #ubuntu then.
<Psychotic> well, i'll do to but its silly when no one is answering No ?
<Psychotic> :)
<vodka-goo> nobody could say yes if you don't ask anything special
<Psychotic> i'd ask the question by details..got no answer
<bluestorm> Psychotic,
<Psychotic> bluestorm,
<Psychotic> ?
<bluestorm> does your question concern caml ?
<Psychotic> Na
<bluestorm> hum
<Psychotic> just when am minimizing nothing appears on the taskbar there...am using the TAb button to switch between applications how do i fix it ?
<bluestorm> kinda strange to ask here
<bluestorm> hum
<Psychotic> Yeah
<bluestorm> i know
<Psychotic> I Know
<bluestorm> juste right click on the bottom bar
<bluestorm> "Add to panel"
<bluestorm> "Windows List"
<dylan> it'd make more sense to ask in #linux or perhaps #gnome..
<bluestorm> (at the bottom of the panel-applet list)
<bluestorm> dylan, but when we can answer i think we could, or should
<dylan> bluestorm: True. Plus #ocaml is a lot more friendly than many distro-specific channels on freenode.
<bluestorm> yes
<bluestorm> #debian is not very friendly
<bluestorm> (but #debian-fr is a lot better :)
<bluestorm> and we don't have "a bot to answer to stupid questions" ;p
<dylan> I sometimes lurk in #debian-es, which is often off-topic but nice. :)
<bluestorm> what does 'es' mean ? spania ?
<dylan> spanish, yes.
<Psychotic> bluestorm,
<Psychotic> i guess its working :)
<Psychotic> than u :)
<Psychotic> Thank*
<bluestorm> :p
<Psychotic> thanks god i know a lil about irc or else its a dead end
<Psychotic> lol
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