gildor changed the topic of #ocaml to: Discussions about the OCaml programming language | http://caml.inria.fr/ | OCaml 3.11.2 released
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<kmkaplan> hcarty: OK, thank you.
<f[x]> ttamttam1, you should create import lib for your dll first and then make c code use that import lib and do not put dll on command line for ocamlnklib
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<ttamttam> f[x]: Thank you
<ttamttam> I had it ok directly. But I needed to make some copies of my dll, because of conventions of different tools
<ttamttam> -lname can mean different concrete files…
<ttamttam> Generating an import library seems not so easy.
<ttamttam> If I'm correct, I have to create a .def for that
<ttamttam> And from memory, I have to manually edit it for each entry (@n)
<ttamttam> Which I'd like to avoid, if possible…
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<f[x]> no, it is fully automatic - see implib
<f[x]> and it is a bad style to provide dll without import lib
<f[x]> implib is for msvc iirc, mingw tool may be named some other way
<ttamttam> I'll have a look. Thanks.
<f[x]> ehm, actually I am wrong, looks like mingw doesn't need explicit import library
<f[x]> one more guess : -cclib name.dll
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<adrien> not strictly related to ocaml: I want to make a dot-like graph but I can't get the proper layout: anyone know a way to reuse dot/graphviz but do my own layout (it's really simple: (30*i, 30*j) with i and j in [1;2;3])
<f[x]> you can specify coordinates explicitely iirc
<flux> you can tell the locations of your nodes to graphviz and pin them down in certain layout algos it has
<adrien> can it be done through the command-line interface or only the library api?
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<flux> I've only used the dot-files ever
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<K-Yo> hey there
<K-Yo> I would like to define a global var inside a function, is that possible?
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<gildor> K-Yo: you can change the value of a global variable inside a function, but you cannot define it
<mrvn> K-Yo: Let foo = let x = ref 0 in function y -> incr x; x +y?
<K-Yo> okay thanks
<K-Yo> =)
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* ttamttam is trying to compile ocaml from source under mingw…
* adrien wishes ttamttam good luck
<ttamttam> And failing whe ocamlbrowser.exe
<ttamttam> is to be generated…
<ttamttam> Some problem with tcl/tk dlls…
<ttamttam> Grrr
<adrien> that one is easy to fix, only annoying ;-)
<ttamttam> *should* be easy to fix, you mean ?
<ttamttam> I do have TK_ROOT=c:/tcl
<ttamttam> in config/Makefile
<ttamttam> and /cygdrive/c/Tcl/bin in my PATH
<adrien> do you want tcl/tk support? if not, disable it
<ttamttam> I do : ocamlbrowser often help
<ttamttam> And I don't really have the time to port it to gtk ;-)
<adrien> well, pastebin the error?
<ttamttam> http://pastebin.org/285895 around line 137
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<adrien> ttamttam: you're compiling for windows or for cygwin
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<ttamttam> mingw
<ttamttam> from cygwin
<ttamttam> I use a script, to do the job.
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<ttamttam> And it works in another computer.
<ttamttam> I'm just to spot the differences…
<adrien> do you have nm?
<ttamttam> Well. nmTAB prints nm.exe
<adrien> yeah, run it on the dll and check you get these function names (pipe to less or any pager), leading underscore is ok too?
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<ttamttam> pexports can't load PE image of tk85.dll, and nm found no symbol!
<adrien> doh, nm doesn't work on dlls ><
<adrien> hmmm, dunno, and really gotta work now =/
<ttamttam> Thanks for your time
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<lxnay|lappie> what's the reason behind the signature of this function ===> let rec a () = let b () = a () in b ();; [unit -> 'a -> <fun>]
<lxnay|lappie> i mean, i didn't expect it to return 'a
<lxnay|lappie> ;)
<mrvn> What should it return?
<adrien> what would you want it to return?
<lxnay|lappie> eheh, i expected unit
<mrvn> Sometimes -> 'a means it doesn't return
<lxnay|lappie> oh really
<lxnay|lappie> nice tip ;)
<mrvn> Things that don't return can't infere the return type.
<adrien> it never returns so it could return anything
<thelema> functions start off 'a -> 'b, and are restricted from that by their use (and the use of their arguments)
<thelema> for yout function, 'a clearly must be (), but there's no restriction on the return type, so it stays polymorphic
<thelema> *your
<mrvn> thelema: why should it be ()? Could be int too
<thelema> because it's matched against () in the function declaration
<mrvn> ahh, the 'a in 'a -> 'b.
<thelema> yes, too many 'a's floating about
<thelema> maybe I should have said 'b -> 'a, and then the 'a's would agree
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<travisbrady> How come this "module FMap = Map.Make (Float);;" works in ocamlrun but when I try to compile I get "Error: Unbound module Float"?
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<derdon> travisbrady: where does Float come from?
<travisbrady> derdon: Hmm, not sure. Batteries maybe?
<travisbrady> Oh well, this works: module FloatMap = Map.Make (struct type t = float let compare = compare end);;
<hcarty> travisbrady: It is likely from Batteries or Core, and whichever library provides it is not being linked in
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<neorab> Is there a way to use the -c compiler flag and -o in a way to put the .cmi .cmx and .o into another folder?
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<gildor> neorab: no
<neorab> is there any way to direct these compile files?
<gildor> what means to direct ?
<neorab> sorry, to have them created elsewhere other than just moving them after they are created
<gildor> neorab: ocamlbuild do it the other way round: move the source file before compiling
<gildor> neorab: I think this is the only way you can do it
<neorab> ah, that's clever
<neorab> thanks
<neorab> I just don't trust myself to be deleting old files inside my src directory before commits, heh
<hcarty> neorab: Using OCamlMakefile or ocamlbuild would be very helpful in that case
<gildor> neorab: take a look at ocamlbuild, it create a single _build at the toplevel of your source directory
<gildor> neorab: this way you can have a single directory to ignore
<gildor> very clean
<neorab> will do, thanks
<gildor> and you can use OASIS to create your whole build system very simply
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<derdon> gildor: can I tell OASIS that my project requires 3rd party OCaml projects as dependencies?
<gildor> derdon: as long as this third parties provide a META file, yes
<gildor> (i.e. are integrated with findlib)
<gildor> e.g. BuildDepends: oUnit (>= 1.0.2)
<gildor> derdon: I leave until tomorrow morning, leave a message here or by mail if you need information about OASIS
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<derdon> gildor: ok, thanks for your help!
<derdon> gildor: I hope this behaviour (adding dependencies) is document in the OASIS documentation
<krankkatze> hi, how do I concatenate a char and a string?
<hcarty> krankkatze: You would need to create a new string
<krankkatze> hum
<hcarty> String.init (String.length s + 1) (fun i -> if i < String.length s then s.[i] else c)
<hcarty> That's completely untested, but something like that would have to be done
<krankkatze> something like " ".[0] <- char ?
<hcarty> Batteries may provide a function to do something like this. Or you could use ropes
<krankkatze> to make the char be a string, and then use ^
<krankkatze> would this be ok ?
<krankkatze> oh no
<krankkatze> i'm beeing stupid
<krankkatze> sorry
<hcarty> You'd want something like (String.make 1 ' ')
<hcarty> You could use ^ with the resulting value then if you like
<hcarty> A buffer would be a more efficient way to do this though
<krankkatze> a buffer?
<hcarty> See the Buffer module
<hcarty> It allows you to more efficiently build a string character-by-character
<hcarty> Though I don't know if that is it's intended purpose..
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<travisbrady> Is there some way to fold over a Map but terminate early provided some condition has been reached?
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<hcarty> travisbrady: You could raise an exception containing the result and catch that
<travisbrady> hcarty: Ahh, ok. I'd thought of that but it seemed slightly hackish. thanks.
<hcarty> travisbrady: It is a little hackish, but it should be fairly efficient.
<hcarty> travisbrady: You could also filter the map to contain only the data you want and then fold over the result
<travisbrady> Hmmm, my use case is i have a map where I want to take elements so long as a running some of the keys does not exceed some value. So I think a fold w/ exception will do the trick
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<travisbrady> Anywhere in particular I should look trying to track down a Stack_overflow? I get a segfault when I compile with ocamlopt
<travisbrady> My program doesn't seem to be using much memory though.
<ntaylor> travisbrady: stack overflow implies non-terminating recursion rather than memory usage
<ntaylor> (typically)
<travisbrady> Is there a debug flag I can set to get a more informative error message?
<travisbrady> Hmm, trying to use -g and ocamldebug, but not sure it works with what I'm trying to do. My program reads lines on stdin
<travisbrady> I keep getting "(ocd) Syntax error."
<ntaylor> how long is your code? Is it pastebinable?
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