<Ralith>
I'll see if I can find where to submit a bug report, then
<adrien>
stulibs are only used when using bytecode so you'll be safe for now if you use native code
<adrien>
dunno :P
<adrien>
(where)
* adrien
tired
* Ralith
is only really interested in native, with the odd bit of interpreted dev, anyway
<Ralith>
on the subject of bug reports, were you going to contact the OCamlMakefile author?
<Ralith>
I can, though I won't be able to discuss the error very usefully
<adrien>
I'm almost done contacting him :-)
<Ralith>
wonderful!
<Ralith>
thanks for the help
<adrien>
:-)
<adrien>
and you helped too by having an issue on a simple example ;p
<Ralith>
I'm sure I'd've had it on a complex one if I'd managed to get that far.
<Ralith>
while you're here, any introductory material you can recommend for the language? I'm conversant in Haskell and fluent in Common Lisp, though I'm also interested in stuff to recommend to someone who's merely conversant in C++
<otk>
i emailed rob, dont think its going to get fixed though
<otk>
the submit form for the page has been deleted by the injected content :(
<Ptival>
didn't even know that website
<otk>
it used to be awesome
<otk>
but i think the maintainer went on leave
<otk>
hopefully he responds to email
<otk>
sigh someone has ruined F# too
<otk>
hopefully the data is stored in a DB that he can revert
<otk>
...if he caes
<otk>
cares*
<otk>
well, the solutions pages are still good, but i cant work on submitting answers
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<bbear>
helo
<thelema_>
hello
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<tautologico>
what is the "standard" way of using batteries? with or without the syntax extensions?
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<thelema>
tautologico: as lead of the batteries project, I don't use the syntax extensions
<bbear>
hello
<thelema>
I believe many users don't use them. I don't really know anyone who does.
<thelema>
bbear: hello
<tautologico>
so why keep them in the library?
<bbear>
what has ocaml different compared to lisp, scheme, haskell, erlang or clojure ?
<thelema>
tautologico: some users really appreciate using the print extensions (which aren't very well documented, so I can't help much with them)
<thelema>
bbear: I think of it like haskell with a reasonable runtime system; eager semantics and very efficient builtin operations
<thelema>
tautologico: but it's a fair question; maybe they should be moved outside batteries. I don't think it costs batteries much to keep them.
<tautologico>
one problem I see with adoption is that if people use all the extensions together, it's almost like another language, or another dialect of ocaml
<tautologico>
this can make some people wary
<adrien>
I haven't seen many (if any) widespread/common language extension that gave that impression
<adrien>
usually the effect is well-delimited and well-documented
<zorun>
tautologico: this is a well-known issue for Lisp
<tautologico>
zorun: yes, I know
<zorun>
but as adrien, I think most people are simply using OCaml as it is, without modifying the language
<tautologico>
the first example on the "getting started" page in the batteries wiki already uses 2 syntax extensions, that's why I asked
<tautologico>
I like both, actually... not having a standard way to get a simple i..j range list in ocaml is an usual annoyance for me (along with having to write lots of other utility functions that should be in the std lib)
<tautologico>
thelema: hm, just simple operators then?
<thelema>
yup. let (|>) x f = f x
<tautologico>
doesn't this have some efficiency issues?
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