gildor changed the topic of #ocaml to: Discussions about the OCaml programming language | http://caml.inria.fr/ | OCaml 3.12.1 http://bit.ly/nNVIVH
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<thelema> flux: maybe you just meant maybe some other implementation will become the defacto lazy sequence implementation
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<ssbr__> Oh man, I just realized, ocaml is statically typed -- are there any development tools as interesting/powerful as Visual Studio?
<ssbr__> I remember when I tried C# with VS, coming from Python, development was surprisingly fast because the editor could automate so many things due to strong static analysis
<ssbr__> I mean obviously there's F#, but I'm not using F# :p
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<flux> thelema, indeed that's what I meant
<flux> thelema, something being on the same level as Enum is
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<Ptival> ssbr__: well, there's not so much on the OCaml side. You can try typerex which has some features.
<flux> then there was this project that tried to bring ocaml refactoring tools. ocaml wizard maybe? I don't remember.
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<kaustuv> Is there a standard url for the ocamldoc of a package uploaded to oasis-db?
<Kakadu> kaustuv: I've never seen such urls
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<kaustuv> That's a pity. One of the primary benefits of cabal is the api docs on hackage.haskell.org.
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<Kakadu> You're right
<Kakadu> It will be great if somebody report it to Silvain
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<kaustuv> I am sure Sylvain is (a) aware of the issue, (b) full of higher priority things to do, and (c) on this channel
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<MrCreepy> when mmap()'ing a file, if another process writes to it, my process will be able to see the changes at once, right?
<Ptival> MrCreepy: if the other process msyncs or munmaps
<MrCreepy> the changes are synced on disk; they're written with write(2)
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<orbitz> MrCreepy: I bet there might be a way to test this...
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<rixed> MrCreepy: there is a MAP_SHARED flag too. In my experience the changes are visible at once (ie prior to msync)
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<MrCreepy> ah, thanks :-)
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<SigmaVirus24> Hey, I'm looking to pick up OCaml, can anyone recommend any good resources (i.e. books/websites/pdfs/etc) to help me along?
<Kakadu> SigmaVirus24: I've started 4 years ago from http://mirror.ocamlcore.org/ocaml-tutorial.org/
<SigmaVirus24> Awesome, thanks!
<Qrntz> SigmaVirus24, you could also check out http://www.cs.caltech.edu/courses/cs134/cs134b/book.pdf
<SigmaVirus24> Will do Qrntz
<SigmaVirus24> I guess I should be forthright, I'm learning OCaml out of boredom, not out of any necessity, so really I'll take any resources you guys can offer
<Qrntz> it's one of the best current books on ocaml (imo), despite being a draft yet
<Qrntz> well, I started learning it that way too…
<Qrntz> there is also http://realworldocaml.org/ but that will be released a bit later this year
<SigmaVirus24> fair enough
<SigmaVirus24> Yeah, O'Reilly seems to frequently put out good stuff, but I don't have the patience to put it off until then
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<orbitz> SigmaVirus24: I actually tend to ask here and just read the lanaguage spec
<orbitz> SigmaVirus24: the language is so small it's not that bad
<SigmaVirus24> orbitz: ok. I just like having reference material of any type.
<Kakadu> I have problems with linking.... http://paste.in.ua/4364/raw/
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<hcarty> SigmaVirus24: I second the vote for the book Qrntz linked to. It's a nice learning resource.
<SigmaVirus24> Thanks hcarty
<SigmaVirus24> Thanks again everyone
<hcarty> SigmaVirus24: Have fun learning!
<SigmaVirus24> hcarty: will do
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<Framedragger> hear hear, thanks for the link to Hickey's book, looks really funky!
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<thelema> flux: Enum's big advantage is that it's mutable, meaning that one can convert from one data structure to another and be able to GC the old data structure while generating the new one.
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