adrien changed the topic of #ocaml to: Discussions about the OCaml programming language | http://caml.inria.fr/ | OCaml 4.00.1 http://bit.ly/UHeZyT | http://www.ocaml.org | Public logs at http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/ocaml/
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<dan_> I'm looking into getting started with OCaml and was wondering if I should start with version 4 or 3.12.
<troydm> go with the latest
<dan_> All the books (http://ocaml.org/books.html) seem to be about 3.12. Is there some good resource to start with version 4?
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<dan_> I already compiled the latest version and it runs fine. I need some book / tutorial for that version now.
<dan_> I'm already familiar with Haskell and Clojure so I already grok functional.
<dan_> French documentation / book is fine too.
<dsheets> dan_: http://caml.inria.fr/pub/docs/manual-ocaml/ is useful and http://files.metaprl.org/doc/ocaml-book.pdf will give you the basics (and 4 isn't too far from 3 anyway)
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<dan_> Any big changes I should be wary of when I read documentation for version 3?
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<dsheets> not really… most 3.12 code is forward compatible to 4
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<dan_> Great
<dsheets> dan_: if you want a package manager to use nice ocaml libs easily, check out opam
<dsheets> but maybe that is getting ahead of what you need if you are using for 1st time
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<dan_> That's the Ocaml equivalent to cpan, rubygems, clojars, cheeseshop, etc?
<dsheets> yeah, cabal, npm...
<dsheets> let's you manage multiple compilers, too
<dsheets> s/'//
<dan_> Oh. That's neat.
<dan_> I'll certainly use it when I get the basics.
<dsheets> have fun! and come back if you get stuck :-)
<dan_> Will do. :)
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<fasta> Why do people compare opam to cabal?
<fasta> It's only superficially the same.
<orbitz> ask them?
<fasta> cabal is implemented by one guy in a few days and opam has been implemented by a team over a longer period of time with much better documentation, more advanced code, etc.
<orbitz> why are you comparing opam to cabal?
<fasta> orbitz: I have longer logs than you do.
<orbitz> in #ocaml? I doubt it
<fasta> orbitz: 7 hours ago dsheets said this.
<orbitz> fasta: I think you're missing the point of my response: you should as kthe people who compare opam to cabal why they compare opam to cabal
<orbitz> fasta: but of course you could just ask yourself that question since you just did compare opam to cabal
<fasta> orbitz: I think you missed my point.
<adrien> the comparison is not on who it's done but on which use it serves
<fasta> cabal doesn't even have a remove interface.
<fasta> In the case of opam there is also some QA on the available packages.
<fasta> In the case of cabal it's completely disconnected resulting in frequent breakage.
<orbitz> that doesn't mean they aren't comparable
<adrien> they're comparable as tools seen to make installation of packages easy
<fasta> orbitz: if someone writes a list, then it seems to imply some kind of equivalency.
<orbitz> I didn't say they were equivalent
<fasta> I have some nice cars: a Fiat and a Ferrari.
<fasta> I mean, that's simply not how it works.
<fasta> orbitz: I didn't say you did.
<orbitz> they have 4 wheels and will get you from point A to B
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<dabd> I'm trying to build the OCamlWin installer https://github.com/protz/ocaml-installer on a 64 bit machine. Should I install ActiveTCl 64-bit or 32-bit?
<dabd> Is OCaml for Windows fully compatibule with the linux version? All code/libraries run ok?
<dabd> compatible*
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<adrien> full compatibility is obviously impossible
<adrien> or windows would be called "linux" instead
<adrien> most things work and well
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<dabd> adrien: do you know if the janestreet alternative core lib compiles well on ocamlwin?
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<adrien> dunno
<adrien> it should
<adrien> or shout at them
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<bobry> I'm having trouble building the latest 'core' with opam on os x, can somebody take a look please? http://paste.in.ua/7981/
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