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<thomasga> is it possible to build a library with ocamlbuild using just the command line ? (ie. without .mllib files in my tree)
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<thomasga> (I've tried `ocamlbuild -mods Foo,Bar foo.cmxa` but it doesn't seem to work
<thomasga> )
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<adrien_oww> iirc you can simply do ocamlbuild foo.cmxa
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<thomasga> adrien: but the library foo needs to be define somewhere isn't it ?
<thomasga> ie. needs to have foo.mllib
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<adrien_oww> I think you can manage without but only if you have a main file for the library and it accesses the other modules
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<adrien_oww> (but I've really given up on ocamlbuild tbh)
<thomasga> (I don't have a main file unfortunately)
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<thomasga> (and yes I've given up as well)
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<hcarty> thomasga: `ocamlbuild -mods a,b a.cma` works here
<hcarty> thomasga: Sorry, rather - `ocamlbuild -mods a,b a.cmo b.cma` works here
<hcarty> thomasga: That's with no references between a.ml or b.ml
<hcarty> thomasga: I can load the resulting b.cma in the toplevel and have access to modules A and B
<hcarty> thomasga: If b.ml references the module A then I expect you wouldn't need to specific 'a.cmo' as one of the build targets.
<thomasga> hcarty: thx, I finally manage to generate a tempory .mllib file
<thomasga> but I'll use that next time
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<kaustuv> Will 'opam remove' work on the patched archive or the original archive? (I have a patch that adds some uninstallation stuff that's missing in the upstream package.)
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<thomasga> kaustuv: original archive unfortunately
<thomasga> feel free to open a feature request, that indeed sound logical
<kaustuv> OK will do
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<companion_cube> how costly is it to instantiate a local module?
<companion_cube> like, let module MySet = Set.Make(...) in
<kaustuv> It creates and initializes a new module every time that function is called.
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<kaustuv> or rather, every time that line is run
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<companion_cube> hmm, so not especially cheap, I guess
<companion_cube> thanks
<kaustuv> I think non functor applications are free, though. In other words, the Module.(expr) thing has no runtime cost. (But I could be wrong about that.)
<companion_cube> it sounds logical, since you only have to get a pointer to an already existing module
<companion_cube> whereas applying a functor may create a truly new module
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<kaustuv> thomasga: thanks for the quick fix to the remove issue
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<thomasga> does it work ?
<thomasga> :-)
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<ollehar> can't get my cgi-script to flush output before starting Lwt_main.run...
<ollehar> cgi#out_channel#commit_work doesn't work
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<adahlberg> Okay, I am new to Ocaml and functional languages... I have a day type: type day = Sun | Mon | Tues | Wed | Thurs | Fri | Sat;; I am looking to create a function like let f n d = where you pass in an integer n and the function returns the day distance n away. I understand If I place d in an array some how I can take n%7 and move that many positions in the array. Anyone have any insight. I keep getting results like return type ex
<adahlberg> pected day, but given unit.
<adahlberg> it should be int -> day -> day
<ollehar> adahlberg: you mean, what day is it n days from now?
<ollehar> or from day d
<adahlberg> from d
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<adahlberg> like if i passed f Sun 3 it would give Wed
<ollehar> ok
<adahlberg> Where Sun is 1st and Saturday is last
<ollehar> maybe you need a function that maps int -> day, like match n with 0 -> Sun | 1 -> Mon ...
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<ollehar> f n d = match n%7 + int_of_day d with m -> day_of int m
<ollehar> match (n%7 + int_of_day d) % 7 with ...
<Kakadu> (n + int_of_day d) % 7 |> day_of_int
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<adahlberg> Thanks for the insight, I will try this and let you know.
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<ollehar> Kakadu: nice
<ollehar> :)
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<wmeyer`> adrien: oh
<adrien> ho ho ho!
<adrien> we're closer to easters than christmas however :-)
<wmeyer`> adrien: lol
<wmeyer`> well, still closer to eater
<wmeyer`> anyway, I have to dig into mantis, the deadlines past already ...
<ollehar> why doesn't lwt_unix wrap unix.setsid?
<path[l]> hi, I'd like some help with ocamllex. I'm trying to write a rule to match heredocs
<path[l]> I have something that looks like this http://pastie.org/6424105
<path[l]> but I dont know how to match the endtoken in my special "heredoc parsing rule"
<wmeyer`> you pass the word into the rule
<wmeyer`> and just parse everything
<wmeyer`> and call heredoce lexbuf unless it's a word
<wmeyer`> but easier
<path[l]> ah, you mean write an if statement to check for the endtoken
<wmeyer`> yes
<adrien> deadlines are meant to be not respected :-)
<path[l]> aha thanks
<wmeyer`> anyway you have to call recursively call it
<wmeyer`> you have to be a little careful how you recognise though
<wmeyer`> i'd suggest to do it on character basis
<wmeyer`> parse one character, and in paraler compare with the delimitier
<wmeyer`> if they match get next character and go to the next delimiter character
<wmeyer`> if not reset the to begining of the delimiter
<wmeyer`> and so on
<wmeyer`> adrien: I like this approach :-)
<wmeyer`> path[l]: it's all so difficult purely because you have a dynamic delimiter
<wmeyer`> and the tables of ocamlex are static
<path[l]> wmeyer`: yeah, but the approach you suggested seems like it'll work for me
<path[l]> hehe
<wmeyer`> path[l]: and of course you don't want to lex the here-doc, so I'd suggest a manual loop
<wmeyer`> make sure you use Buffer module to concatenate
<path[l]> sorry I dont follow, but I think I need to lex the here-doc because inside the heredoc variable substitution is allowed
<path[l]> and arbitrary expressions
<wmeyer`> path[l]: yes, then you have toO :-) redoing shell?
<path[l]> haha, php actually
<path[l]> there's a bunch of people who have already done work on this, but I'm new to ocaml
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<wmeyer`> path[l]: pfff <--- never remember how many fs are here
<path[l]> yeah I was looking at the pfff solution for heredocs, but it does more than I need. Still if I find this too hard maybe I'll just steal that bit from pfff
<adrien> ocamlfind + oasis + ocamlbuild is a _very_ effective combination for cross-compilation
<adrien> ounit, no issue; fileutils, no issue
<wmeyer`> adrien: cool!
<adrien> not sure how I'm going to handle type-conv
<adrien> (camlp4)
<wmeyer`> adrien: but you have to just invoke the native camlp4 at compile time?
<wmeyer`> hm yes, camlp4 marshals ast
<wmeyer`> so that might be differetn across the architectures
<adrien> well I actually need sexplib
<adrien> and it's going to want to link against type-conv
<wmeyer`> ah i see and it's dynlinking
<wmeyer`> the plugin
<wmeyer`> you have to provide two versions :-)
<wmeyer`> one native and other one cross compiled
<wmeyer`> at least package the cross compiled, but your package manager should compile the same thing twice
<adrien> providing both doesn't seem difficult
<adrien> but then I'd have to have sexplib use the right one each time
<adrien> but for now I think I'll skip the camlp4 issue: I don't need the extension in sexplib
<adrien> I only need the library
<wmeyer`> for bootstrapping yypkg?
<adrien> (I've removed use of the extension in yypkg some time ago)
<adrien> yup
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<adrien> is there a way to not build and not configure a library with oasi ?
<adrien> oasis*
<wmeyer`> to build and not configure you mean?
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<wmeyer> I opened an e-mail with commit and emacs did bang
<adrien> :D
<adrien> in sexplib, there are two libraries: the support and the syntax extension
<adrien> I want to skip the syntax extension for configuring to installing
<adrien> I could hand-edit the setup.ml file but I'd like to avoid that
<wmeyer> just touch the resulting file, and it will not build
<wmeyer> but make sure it will be copied
<adrien> I still need to run -configure for the support library
<wmeyer> sounds like a hack
<wmeyer> probably not many people tried that ;-)
<adrien> well, I'd like --disable-library2
<wmeyer> there is Build: ${flag}
<wmeyer> or smthg like this
<wmeyer> but not everybody uses it
<adrien> unfortunately I don't have oasis in the build environment so I can't change the _oasis file and regenerate it
<adrien> I've hacked the setup.ml file: it'll be good for tonight
<adrien> I think I have an issue with packs
<ollehar> is there a way to do Lwt_main.run (match Lwt_unix.fork with 0 -> do things ...)
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<adrien> well, now I know that "partialld" in the sources of ocaml is used to make packs
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<adrien> src/_build/yypkg/yypkg.native: PE32 executable (console) Intel 80386, for MS Windows
<adrien> \o/
<adrien> the ability to redefine the commands used for "ocamlopt" (for instance) in findlib.conf is simply awesome
<adrien> I've cross-compiled 4 or 5 packages without changing anything except disabling camlp4 and toploop support in sexplib
<adahlberg> I asked about this earlier, I am a rookie to functional programming and am trying to get down some knowledge of functions with custom user types. Please check this out, any help is welcomed.
<asmanur_> adahlberg: on my computer your code works. Are you sure you compiled / entered in the toplevel correctly ?
<asmanur_> by the way it seems that you are not using the second parameter ('d')
<adahlberg> I know, I am reading into how to manipulate user defined types
<adahlberg> I added some comments to the original gist, I dont know if you can see them? My main questions existed in the gist.
<asmanur_> yes
<asmanur_> but your code is correct
<asmanur_> so there must be something wrong with the way you are feeding your code to ocaml
<asmanur_> are you working in a toplevel or compiling ?
<adahlberg> basic ocaml interpreter
<adahlberg> #use "filename.ml"
<adahlberg> It is compiling now
<adahlberg> I guess my overall question is how/what datatype would be best to manipulate my day data type, to get some sort of value
<asmanur_> a sum type is good
<asmanur_> it's abstract and you are sure of the meaning of your values, but it might not be very convenient to use
<adahlberg> Would matching before from d -> integer value work?
<asmanur_> yes
<adahlberg> okay, thanks I'll try that out.
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<asmanur_> i'm not sure what you are trying to do ?
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<rks_> adahlberg: let current = match d with Sun -> 0 | ... in let distance = n mod 7 in ...
<rks_> is what you want.
<adrien> windows cross-compiler working! \o/
<adrien> yypkg.exe built and running well \o/
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<adrien> wmeyer: thanks for the update :-)
<adrien> wmeyer: and really, no hurry: I've started yypkg almost 5 years ago; one week really is nothing :D
<adrien> and it's not blocking me
<adrien> it's really good that a fourth or a third of the patches have had their way upstream; it's already a big difference in the number of patches
<adrien> (and surprisingly, what is still outside doesn't feel like a hurdle to keeep, probably because the trunk has been very quiet recently)
<adrien> good night :-)
<ollehar> adahlberg: i would factor out functions day_of_int and int_of_day
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