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so if I want to use sexplib with ppx, do I just replace "with sexp" by "[@@deriving sexp]"?
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and remove sexplib.syntax from _oasis?
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is it possible to get merlin to insert stub documentation?
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or some other tool
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Merlin was a powerful mage, I think he can do it
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icicled: no but that mught be interesting.
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def` >
can you describe a bit what you would like?
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say I put my cursor on a function identifier
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e.g. let x a b = a + b - cursor on x
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and I press some key combination - I'd like the documentation template to be inserted above
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if there isn't one already
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I guess this would go in the mli file with: val x a b
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sorry, switching from f# <> ocaml is not w/o warts
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other languages in general where the docs go along with the implementation
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I will think about that
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btw, what happened to the sum type expander thing in merlin? last I saw it was a gif on the github page
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not sure if it is implemented or got removed
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icicled: it is the merlin destruct feature
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any tips on creating a build tool that invokes ocamlc several times? should I just take a peak at ocamlbuild?
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sspi: Most people use oasis or ocamlbuild directly.
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anyone know what happened to the >> operator in Lwt?
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I don't see it in 2.5.1
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or I am blind
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it comes with lwt.ppx
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icicled: it never was a real operator
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oh ok, the mirage tutorial on lwt references it
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so is that incorrect?
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It is, but it's in the syntax extension
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go see there, it's explained
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Is there any work being done on codoc and/or opam-doc? The latter doesn't work with 4.02.3
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icicled >
and the former isn't on opam even though the readme on github says so
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icicled: i heard not, though i might be taking a look at some point
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icicled >
oh ok - I wish there was a one stop shop for library docs
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offline would be nice too
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fds >
Opam should force packages to come with accompanying -doc versions.
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aantron: can we skip the part about cow and just write a ppx for tyxml instead ? :D
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Drup, what do you have in mind?
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aantron >
embedding parsed HTML in the syntax tree?
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aantron >
i was thinking of proposing something like this and asking you if you wanted it for tyxml
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aantron >
(i mean embedding as tyxml values)
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Drup >
Yes I want it
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Drup >
we have a camlp4 extension, in fact
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Drup >
but 1) it doesn't parse html 2) It's camlp4 3) It sucks
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aantron >
fair enough
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Drup >
parse html sloppily*
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aantron >
whats the relation between cow and tyxml, if any? i havent looked deeply, but does cow use tyxml in any way?
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Drup >
No it doesn't
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Drup >
cow is untyped
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i think a ppx for tyxml is a good idea, but separately for cow, is there some use for parsing html the way markup.ml does it?
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aantron >
i ended up unsure from the thread
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Drup >
"the way markup does it" ?
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aantron >
(if you know)
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aantron >
i mean sloppy as they called it
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Drup >
Yeah, I think it's good
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Drup >
I mean, it's useful
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aantron >
okay. so this ppx..
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aantron >
i better get up to speed on tyxml :)
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aantron >
"lightweight" :)
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Drup >
Compared to ocamlnet :>
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aantron >
it is lightweight by design but i think the HTML spec makes a truly lightweight parser impossible :)
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aantron >
i mean the overall principles of the design* are lightweight
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aantron >
oh yes. :)
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Drup >
Yeah, it's by comparison to what was there previously
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aantron >
btw writing an HTML parser while translating the spec from a DOM description to a SAX implementation is one of the most stressful programming tasks i have ever worked on
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Drup >
I can imagine
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aantron >
the spec feels almost like they wrote it to be difficult to analyze on any scale beyond the minute
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Drup >
reading the Html spec while trying to figure out "how am I going to encode this piece of crap in proper ML typing" is not very nice either
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Drup >
(Actually, the svg is way worse)
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yeah.. the spec has made me angry at times :p
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aantron >
but at least they put the <sarcasm> tag halfway through for a laugh :)
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Drup >
The paragraph is completely non sensical
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aantron >
lol my brain doesnt want to even try parsing this
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aantron >
actually it doesnt seem too terrible but im not aware as you of what headaches this might cause for tyxml
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aantron >
fortunately i was confined to section 8
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Drup >
not being worked on
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aantron >
ok. how far along was it? like usable, but rough? not usable?
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Drup >
as far as I know, not really usable yet
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Drup >
like, alpha ? :D
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Drup >
ok, early alpha
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aantron >
if youre familiar with the code at all, would you say its a useful starting point?
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aantron >
im likely to study it either way, but want to hear
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Drup >
icicled: it looks decent, but I would rather do "Lwt_unix.run @@ Lwt.join [ produce pusher ; consume stream]"
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Drup >
aantron: a non-negligeable point is spent on getting locations and parsing, so that's either already done, or will happen elsewhere
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Drup >
The rest is a kind of inherited from the camlp4 extension, it's a list that associate some tags to the corresponding tyxml types/values
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icicled >
gotcha, I had join on there earlier but used async instead (docs said to use it for starting background threads that you don't care about)
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Drup >
Well, it's also a local question. If your main thread is doing something specific, it's true. But in this case, the producer/consumer
*is* your main task
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Drup >
no need to have a noop instead
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aantron >
helping me avoid translation tables? :)
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so shall i work on this independently, or what do you prefer?
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Drup >
on the ppx ? Either inside or outside of tyxml suits me
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Drup >
traditionally in the ocsigen projects, the ppx is inside the associated library, but if you don't want that for some reason, that's fine by me
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aantron >
i dont really have a good reason for it to be outside, do you have one?
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aantron >
ok. lets stick to this. i cant think of any independent usage for this ppx, or any practical gain during development from separating it
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Drup >
Well, I hope any things that would benefit from general usage would end up in markup.ml anyway
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Drup >
how are locations in markup.ml ?
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aantron >
what do you mean "how"? you can get them as you read the signal stream
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aantron >
they used to be part of the parser output stream but i made them a piece of state instead, since i figured they are not needed for simple usage. but they are there
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aantron >
hmm one thing about locations is they are only for the start of each token. do we need end locations?
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Drup >
We will see how it behaves in practice
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Drup >
By the way, do you parse svg too ? :p
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aantron >
html, svg, mathml
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that makes sense - thanks Drup
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