#ocaml on 2017-09-02 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

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06:36 <elecmat> hi

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13:33 <orbifx[m]> elecmat: hi

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14:07 <ShalokShalom> i use 4.05.0-1 and when i use opam, do i get the following issues:

14:07 <ShalokShalom> The following actions failed

14:07 <ShalokShalom> ∗ install jbuilder 1.0+beta12

14:07 <ShalokShalom> ∗ install topkg 0.8.1

14:07 <ShalokShalom> ∗ install react 1.2.0

14:08 <ShalokShalom> their error messages contain always: 4.02.3

14:08 <kakadu_> eval `opam config env`

14:08 <ShalokShalom> 4.02.3

14:08 <ShalokShalom> hi kakadu :)

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14:09 <kakadu_> hey

14:09 <kakadu_> if it says 4.02.3 then you are not using 4.05

14:09 <ShalokShalom> https://gist.github.com/ShalokShalom/ea1fcbc427d522f1254d491b39f1a1c0

14:09 <ShalokShalom> ➜ ~ pacman -Q ocaml

14:09 <ShalokShalom> ocaml 4.05.0-1

14:10 <ShalokShalom> hnn, seems like i installed opam by hand

14:10 <kakadu_> opam switch 4.05.0+flambda

14:11 <ShalokShalom> i thought opam is included

14:11 <ShalokShalom> thats clear now

14:12 <ShalokShalom> Processing: [4.05.0+flambda: make world]

14:12 <ShalokShalom> thy

14:12 <ShalokShalom> flambda?

14:12 <kakadu_> it is more-optimizations-compiler-switch

14:12 <ShalokShalom> ah i see

14:13 <ShalokShalom> optimization into which direction?

14:13 <kakadu_> speed

14:13 <ShalokShalom> so, you mean like a -release trigger?

14:13 <kakadu_> of generated code

14:13 <ShalokShalom> ah, i see

14:13 <ShalokShalom> thy

14:13 <ShalokShalom> seems to build now

14:14 <ShalokShalom> hnn, i build 1.2.2 and that comes with 4.02.3 by default?

14:14 <ShalokShalom> confusing

14:15 <kakadu_> not really

14:15 <kakadu_> maybe you was using old system compiler

14:16 <kakadu_> I'm not sure

14:16 <ShalokShalom> i am on a rolling distribution here

14:17 <ShalokShalom> gcc 6.4 here

14:17 <ShalokShalom> maybe related to my trials to install reason, since that one prefers 4.02 for Bucklescript..

14:17 <kakadu_> the issue is when you use system compiler to compile extra libraries the update of compiler breaks this libraries

14:17 <ShalokShalom> seems they assume nobody will use Reason for anything else..

14:18 <kakadu_> It's generally recommended to use compiler compiled by opam

14:18 <ShalokShalom> ok

14:18 <ShalokShalom> so always use opam

14:18 <kakadu_> Or do not upgrade system compiler

14:18 <ShalokShalom> ah i see

14:18 <ShalokShalom> which would mean to not update at all

14:19 <ShalokShalom> or rebuild everything always again

14:19 <ShalokShalom> so, opam

14:20 <kakadu_> btw, Do you have some recommendations what should I use for web fonts?

14:22 <ShalokShalom> i prefer on my own device Oxygen, while i guess most others can dislike it

14:22 <ShalokShalom> Roboto?

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14:24 <ShalokShalom> https://github.com/KDE/oxygen-fonts

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14:31 <ShalokShalom> Noto Sans: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noto_fonts

14:31 <ShalokShalom> https://www.google.com/get/noto/

14:35 <ShalokShalom> kakadu_: Merlin fails: https://gist.github.com/ShalokShalom/bf90a0a9ada035b8e9bea6d78377f025

14:36 <kakadu_> -v option gives more info

14:36 <ShalokShalom> oko

14:37 <ShalokShalom> opam install merlin -v

14:37 <ShalokShalom> shows the same imho

14:37 <ShalokShalom> https://gist.github.com/ShalokShalom/a83d7716fbdfaa312cb96e559e008b1e

14:38 <kakadu_> weird

14:38 <kakadu_> you can try consult stdout and stderr files

14:40 <ShalokShalom> they are empty

14:41 <kakadu_> have you done `opam update` recently?

14:41 <ShalokShalom> nope

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14:41 <kakadu_> you also can try to install failed packages by one

14:41 <kakadu_> `opam update` sometimes helps

14:42 <ShalokShalom> or yes, i did

14:42 <kakadu_> folks can publish a package update for recent compiler or something

14:42 <kakadu_> give me output of `opam install cppo -v`

14:42 <ShalokShalom> ➜ ~ opam install cppo -v fails as well

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14:43 <ShalokShalom> https://gist.github.com/ShalokShalom/fde1bd60b0e5b7c9d6838e67c70a0e18

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14:43 <kakadu_> Oh

14:43 <kakadu_> crap

14:44 <kakadu_> I have had some issues with jbuilder where it was returning errno 127

14:44 <kakadu_> but it was only the office machine, at home it was OK

14:44 <kakadu_> and nobody could recreate this issue

14:44 <kakadu_> I'm not a big expert on jbuilder though

14:44 <ShalokShalom> ah i see

14:45 <ShalokShalom> so: recreated :D

14:45 <ShalokShalom> who is?

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14:46 <kakadu_> commiters to https://github.com/janestreet/jbuilder/commits/master

14:46 <kakadu_> AFAIR only rgrinberg is hanging out in IRC

14:46 <kakadu_> rgrinberg: ^^

14:47 <kakadu_> As a temporary switch you can try what you want on 4.04

14:47 <kakadu_> Yeah, I know, that looks embarassing

14:48 <ShalokShalom> :)

14:48 <ShalokShalom> for me not

14:48 <ShalokShalom> for other newbies probably, yes

14:48 <ShalokShalom> a friend of mine told me, ;; is just important in REPL, is this correct?

14:48 <kakadu_> yep

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14:51 <ShalokShalom> fine

14:51 <ShalokShalom> because it looks a bit confusing in all these tutorials

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15:08 <rgrinberg> kakadu_: that issue sounds mysterious

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15:12 <kakadu_> rgrinberg: can you recommend ShalokShalom to check something ?

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15:36 <ShalokShalom> And i thought OCaml is mostly error free, once compiled?

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15:41 <kakadu_> ShalokShalom: I changed something. Have fonts become better?

15:41 <ShalokShalom> yep

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15:42 <ShalokShalom> what do you think is missing to use OCaml with QML in larger applications?

15:42 <ShalokShalom> QCaml :P

15:42 <kakadu_> QuteCaml :)

15:42 <ShalokShalom> ^-^

15:43 <ShalokShalom> there is still much lablqt stuff

15:43 <ShalokShalom> see in ctrl+f

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15:43 <ShalokShalom> how much covers your project yet?

15:44 <kakadu_> ShalokShalom: It's a tricky question because it is hard to evaluate

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15:44 <ShalokShalom> ok?

15:45 <kakadu_> I recreated some features that MOC proveds but orbifx[m] didn't use them and made everything work with QPropertyMap's

15:45 <kakadu_> provides*

15:45 <ShalokShalom> aha

15:45 <ShalokShalom> i simply like to import/use qml files

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15:46 <kakadu_> ANother complication is that QML is by iteslf very powerful and may be used without C++/OCaml

15:46 <kakadu_> At the moment I expect some complications with performance when you need to pass object by values between QML runtime and native code

15:47 <kakadu_> There is a specific macro for it (Q_GADGET) in MOC

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15:47 <kakadu_> I don't know how to use this feature from OCaml corrrectly

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16:22 <ShalokShalom> kakadu_: aha, ok

16:22 <ShalokShalom> do you already talk with the devs?

16:22 <kakadu_> devs of what?

16:22 <ShalokShalom> and you mean QML with JS is already very powerful?

16:23 <ShalokShalom> qt devs

16:23 <kakadu_> no, I didn't talk with Qt devs about Q_GADGETs

16:23 <ShalokShalom> QML is the only language I can imagine to write something in it, since it is so declarative

16:23 <ShalokShalom> i guess they can help you?

16:23 <kakadu_> maybe

16:23 <ShalokShalom> try :)

16:24 <ShalokShalom> you can compile QML also in C++

16:24 <ShalokShalom> http://doc.qt.io/QtQuickCompiler/

16:24 <ShalokShalom> including JavaScript

16:25 <kakadu_> Yeah, it will be ahead-of-time compilation

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16:26 <ShalokShalom> i would love to create a OCaml application with your QML connection

16:26 <ShalokShalom> i already ordered OCaml from the very beginning and hope it can open some knots in my mind

16:26 <ShalokShalom> thanks a lot for now :)

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17:51 <malina> hmm, and there I was just compiling conky wihtout moc

17:52 <malina> "p

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18:41 <ShalokShalom> kakadu_: is that QtQuick1 or 2 that you support?

18:41 <kakadu_> only 2

18:46 <ShalokShalom> thy

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