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<xvilka> hi
<xvilka> does Cstruct from Mirage allows to have nested C structures?
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<dreamer> hi all, I'm trying to manually compile an ocaml package, but make says No rule to make target 'all'. any idea if I'm missing something?
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<dreamer> or alternatively, can I tell opam to install a package from a local source directory?
<companion_cube> you can use `opam pin <path-to-the-local-repo>` (with opam2)
<dreamer> ok, I have 1.2.2
<companion_cube> `opam pin add <path>` then
<companion_cube> anyway, opam pin is the way you can tell opam to use some alternative (local or not) repository for a package
<dreamer> is that path to the opam file?
<companion_cube> to the directory with an opam file in i
<companion_cube> it
<dreamer> hmm, it's calling the package 'gstreamer.dev' instead
<dreamer> and failing
<companion_cube> you miss dependencies
<dreamer> opam depext doesn't find anything
<dreamer> or at least nothing I don't already have
<companion_cube> you probably need to look into the error file, and into the opam file to see how it tries to build stuff, sorry
<dreamer> ok, n/p
<dreamer> the dev pushed an update but didn't change the version, so can't tell if the changes are in opam yet
<companion_cube> you can retry with stuff like `opam reinstall <nameofpackage> --yes`, it 's pretty useful
<companion_cube> (it'll reinstall or install ,depending on current state)
<dreamer> nope, same fail. will have to dive in ..
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<dreamer> ah, it's using an embedded version of m4/ and linked to its bootstrap
<companion_cube> there's conf-m4 to detect if m5 is installed
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<companion_cube> m4*
<dreamer> meh. total failure. in a train now so can't dive too deep
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<dreamer> ok changed the path. finally worked. thnx companion_cube ;)
<companion_cube> :)
<dreamer> too bad the new code totally broke everything ...
* dreamer update bugreport
<dreamer> we're having memory issues with ocaml-gstreamer. seems old processes are not being cleaned up properly
<dreamer> so at some point OOMkiller comes by and gives LS a big old suffocating hug
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<dreamer> but now the gstreamer threads seem completely dead :P
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<dmbaturin> Why bucklescript uses int32 for integers by default?
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<Drup> dmbaturin: because javascript doesn't have integers, so you have to fit integers into the mantise of a float
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<dmbaturin> Drup: Ah, I see.
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<dmbaturin> Also, I wonder why exactly clojure didn't do a similar transformation for tail recursion that bucklescript is doing.
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<Armael> Hum, which is?
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<dmbaturin> Armael: Infinite loop with an exit condition like in https://screenshots.firefox.com/ujIZpD2nAU6lacFK/bucklescript.github.io
<Armael> Ok. I assume it only works for simple enough recursion patterns (as in jsoo)
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<Armael> (or rather that it stops working for complicated enough cases)
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<dmbaturin> Armael: I'm going to try and see if I can make it break down. :)
<Drup> try mutually recursive functions in monadic style
<dmbaturin> Right now I'm trying to figure how to properly use getElementById and stuff.
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<coventry> Is there a way to tell dune to run tests in series rather than parallel?
<Fare> I believe you may try dune runtest -j 1
<coventry> Thanks.
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<reynir> (it's the classic odd/even mutual recursion definition)
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<Drup> Wait, jsoo handles that one
<Drup> using trampolines
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<Drup> Doesn't even use trampolines for that one
<reynir> nice
<Drup> I remember bobzhang saying that bs's TCE was complete, and for some reason, I believed him ~~'
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<reynir> Maybe he broke it :P
<Drup> reynir: bs.
<reynir> :D
<reynir> Apparently Safari has proper tail calls
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<Drup> reynir: did you saw the tyre link I send you ?
<reynir> Yes
<reynir> Can you perhaps ping me again tomorrow? I think I'm a bit too tired right now to read it
<Drup> Bah, you have time
<reynir> Yes, I have time, but my brain is not functioning right now :)
<Drup> No, I meant, I'm not going to pursue this right now
<Drup> You have time to read it and form an opinion
<reynir> Ah okay
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<companion_cube> adrien: from the discord bridge perspective, I wonder if requiring auth isn't more difficult to achieve than requiring TLS
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<spew> I wrote a program that calls fork and that means that it executes the main code of the program twice, since it evaluates the main (e.g. top-level) module of the program twice
<spew> is there a standard way to avoid that?
<companion_cube> hmm it shouldn't, the child continues from the same point as the parent
<spew> it evaluates the top-level of all the modules again
<spew> I can put print statements in any module and those will print twice as well
<spew> I am very confused
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<spew> so is that not normal?
<spew> so I have something in the "main" module that is "let () = (...)" which is the main entrypoint to the program
<spew> and that is getting evaluated again when I fork
<reynir> Can you make a small/minimal case?
<spew> it prints "top level module", "about to fork", and "evaluating main" twice
<spew> that's causing me to evaluate some things twice that I don't want to evaluate
<spew> it's a compiler and it's computing the whole compilation twice
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<reynir> spew: I fixed it by adding Printf.eprintf "%!" before the fork call
<spew> oh!
<spew> ok great
<reynir> so, it's a buffer issue :/
<spew> so it's not compiling again
<spew> it's just stuff in the buffer
<spew> thank you very much!
<spew> I was so confused
<spew> well thank goodness because that would have been beyond broken
<reynir> heh yea
<spew> putting a flush_all in my fork wrapper works like a charm
<reynir> Where does flush_all live, Pervasives? Didn't know of that one!
<spew> it does indeed: hiding in plain sight
<reynir> Awesome
<companion_cube> at_exit flush_all; (* just in case *)
<spew> that seems like over-kill
<spew> exit 0 should be enough
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<Fare> I'm trying to make some Lwt code work with a background native thread, and I'm having the hardest time figuring out how to bridge the two.
<Fare> How are the native thread worker and the Lwt threads supposed to communicate with each other, in a way that doesn't block either?
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<Fare> Also, can anyone explain to me what are the limitations on native threads, since I'm also told there is no multicore processing?
<Fare> And, will C code from a library run in parallel with OCaml code, or won't it?
<companion_cube> in general, things run on only one core
<companion_cube> but C code might release the lock and effectively run in parallel (I think it's done in some numerical stuff)
<Fare> ok, that's what I suspected.
<Fare> now —- how do I get communication between Lwt threads and a thread that mainly runs this C code?
<companion_cube> not sure you can do it in a totally non blocking way
<companion_cube> tbh I'm not experienced with this part of lwt much
<Fare> I was thinking of using Lwt_preemptive.detach to run that thread... but then the thread can't use Lwt primitives, so how is it going to communicate?
<Fare> I can define an Event.channel for communication, but then how do I teach Lwt to not block on that?
<Fare> Fine if I have to use Async instead of Lwt.
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<Drup> Fare: just use Lwt_stream ?
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<Drup> (also, do you always bail after waiting less for 5 minutes for an answer ?)
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<Fare> bail? no, sorry, I just sometimes have intermittent connection.
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<adrien> companion_cube: I can't "authentication || tls" for the channel
<Fare> the docs for Lwt_stream says it's deprecated in favor of lwt-pipe...
<adrien> companion_cube: plus, they should be able to handle authentication
<adrien> otherwise it's clearly flawed
<adrien> note that e.g. connecting from tor requires sasl
<Fare> I can't find an obvious way to communicate between system threads and Lwt threads...
<Fare> My current plan: instead of a system thread that processes requests in a loop, move the loop to Lwt and use detach to spawn a separate system thread for every request, and synchronize state when that returns only.
<Fare> That requires some refactoring of my code, but OK.
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<Fare> Dammit, I closed this channel by mistake, again.
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