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<kgop> What's the difference between campl5 and ppx?
<kgop>
<kgop> I want to make some dsls in ocaml, but I don't like
<kgop> the %-symbol restrictions of ppx.
<kgop>
<kgop>
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<octachron> kgop, ppxs are less powerful but more composable and compatible with tooling. In doubt, always starts with a ppx.
<kgop> I'm trying to a heavily simplified dsl targeted at non-developer users, hence I'm slightly worried about the fact that ppx needs macros with %.
<kgop> Is is fairly easy to transition from a ppx definition to campl5?
<kgop> If so, then I might start out experimenting in ppx then slowly move to camlp5
<octachron> No, camlp5 and ppxs are completely different.
<octachron> Note that what I said above only applies if the host language is OCaml
<kgop> I see - okay thanks, I'll use camlp5 then
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<octachron> If you don't intend your user to touch at OCaml code it might be a sensible choice. In this case, you could also write the parser yourself with menhir.
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<kgop> I'd like to allow the option to drop down to ocaml if the dsl can't capture the desired semantics, so camlp5 seems more suited for this
<Armael> using camlp5 means you lose support from the ocaml ide tooling (merling, ocp-indent, etc) because you introduce arbitrary alien syntax
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<Leonidas> companion_cube: fun fact, generating random data with qcheck probably found a bug in the JS library that consumes the data downstream :D
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<Armael> a bug in a JS library? impossible!
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<companion_cube> :D
<companion_cube> Leonidas: cool \o/
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<spew> does anyone ever use the test_ctxt in ounit2?
<spew> I don't really get what it's for
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<narimiran> another beginner question. i'm creating my module called Grid, with `type t = bool array array`, and with function `of_string` which converts a string to the Grid.
<narimiran> if i just create that function as `let of_string s = ....`, the signature is `string -> bool array array`. do i need to do `let of_string s: t = ...` so i would get `string -> t`, or all that isn't important at all?
<bartholin> just declare val of_string : string -> t in the module signature
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