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<d_bot> <rgrinberg> I see. So maybe a general submodule issue?
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<d_bot> <Kate> I think so yeah
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<d_bot> <beheddard> Man odoc is pretty nifty. Very nice to just have to write docstrings! Thanks to those that work on it
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<ruffy_> hannes: Thanks, cppo works fine!
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<d_bot> <orbitz> Does anyone know if `CCList.group_by` provides guarantees for the ordering of elements within a group? If I sort my input list before hand will I be guranteed they are sorted within each group? cc @companion_cube
<d_bot> <orbitz> D'oh, wronge channel!
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<companion_cube> no guarantee afair
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<d_bot> <EduardoRFS> Does anyone know if the Cmm is platform dependent? I know it's word size dependent, but should it be identical for x86_64 and ARM64?
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<mg_> On https://ocaml.org/docs/install.html there's a lot of references to installing ocaml with or without x11-support. What does this x11-support entail?
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<hannes> mg_: until OCaml 4.08.0 it was part of the compiler distribution, but is now no longer part thereof -- instead it is a separate library, take a look at https://github.com/ocaml/graphics for its features and documentation
<mg_> hannes: ah, right. Thanks!
<mg_> hannes: it looks pretty good for my uses, what's the reason it was removed from the distribution? Is it still maintained?
<hannes> mg_: it is maintained, but not by the compiler core team -- instead more by the community. the main reason AFAICT for moving it out of the compiler distribution was to allow different release cycles
<hannes> i.e. if you're using opam (you should), opam install graphics should give you that package :)
<mg_> hannes: I see! So no reason to not use it then :)
<hannes> mg_: I think it is fine to use. I never used it myself though.
<Armael> graphics has some shortcomings, it has a limited API and is relatively toy-like
<companion_cube> biggest shortcoming iirc is that it doesn't distinguish mouse buttons
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<mg_> Armael: toy-like is perfect :) I just want to show an image with some text on, basically
<Armael> well it should be good enough for a quick proto, then
<mg_> I think so. But if I need something less toy-like, what is the goto, best supported, well maintained etc, gui library?
<d_bot> <xvw> Labltk, I guess.
<Armael> I'm not sure if there's a blessed one :/
<Armael> I would probably do something web-based myself
<Armael> since desktop guis seem to be hell
<companion_cube> in almost all languages, actually :(
<companion_cube> (except C++ with Qt perhaps?)
<Armael> but maybe companion_cube can sell you his imgui bindings?
<companion_cube> nah
<companion_cube> they're not usable
<thizanne> back in the time I used python, the gui story was quite nice
<thizanne> actually that's probably what I would do right now, gui in python and backend in ocaml
<dash> do people still write gui apps?
<dash> (if you want to do web, Reason/bucklescript is relatively enjoyable)
<octachron> If you don't need the UI part of gui , sdl might be alright. From my memory, lablgtk works well enough for simple need. But then I never needed more than an openGL view and a handful of buttons.
<d_bot> <EduardoRFS> If your UI doesn't neede to look like the OS, Revery does a great job on that
<d_bot> <EduardoRFS>
<d_bot> <EduardoRFS> also if you can handle the first build time, because it definitely can take a while
<mg_> Thanks for the pointers :)
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