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<Anarchos> minimario #load_rec ?
<Anarchos> minimario or put all the #use directives in .ocamlinit
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<d_bot> <arctumn> what is the current int_max for ocaml?
<companion_cube> depends on the machine
<d_bot> <arctumn> well i think then i might int_overflow
<companion_cube> 2^62-1 on a x86_64 machine I think
<d_bot> <arctumn> maybe overflow ? 2647756052094
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<d_bot> <arctumn> that's definitely not right
<companion_cube> why not use only floats here
<companion_cube> ?
<d_bot> <arctumn> well i'm expecting an integer value as i'm only rotating integers XD
<companion_cube> hmm, rotating 1 by 45° diesn't give an int
<companion_cube> :)
<companion_cube> (1,0) i should say
<d_bot> <arctumn> well i'm only doing 90 180 270 360 rotations
<d_bot> <arctumn> and i want the full result since i'm going to use result to add it to other integers
<companion_cube> hmm in that case you wouldn't need floats at all? :)
<companion_cube> just a pattern match
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<d_bot> <arctumn> i'm not understanding, how would a pattern matching would rotate?
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<yusufa> how do you create multiple independent instances of a variable in ocaml?
<yusufa> by variable i mean record?
<d_bot> <glennsl> yosufa: what do you mean "independent instances"? Just a copy of the outermost record, or a deep clone?
<yusufa> so say i have: type x = {mutable a:int; mutable b:int};;
<yusufa> and then: let inst = {a=3; b=2};;
<yusufa> now i want 2 independent copies of "inst"
<yusufa> when i do something like "let a = inst" and "let b = inst"
<yusufa> every time i modify a, it also modifies b
<yusufa> i just want to modify one of them
<yusufa> d_bot does this make sense?
<d_bot> <glennsl> yeah it does. I don't think there's a general way of doing it using a single function.
<d_bot> <glennsl> I think the easiest would be `let copy x = {x with a = x.a}`
<yusufa> isn't that slow though
<yusufa> how can i have something mutable with an initialization
<yusufa> kind of like what a class would do in C or Java
<d_bot> <glennsl> You could probably write a generic function using `Marshal` too, but ew...
<yusufa> so what's the right way to do this? :D
<d_bot> <glennsl> yosufa: why slow? you asked for a copy. that's a copy.
<d_bot> <glennsl> as for initializer, what makes that different from a function?
<yusufa> well it doesn't do it in place
<yusufa> say i want to call the thing multiple times?
<d_bot> <glennsl> you want to copy in place? what would that do?
<yusufa> no, i want to modify a field in place
<yusufa> like maybe i have a player with some xp
<yusufa> and i want to modify the xp from time to time
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<yusufa> doesn't make too much sense to create a new player and just change the xp every time
<d_bot> <glennsl> you don't need to create a new player every time. but you need to create a new player if you want to modify two players independently
<d_bot> <glennsl> that's what `copy` does
<yusufa> yeah i want to modify two players independently
<yusufa> after all i do want multiple players right
<yusufa> :)
<yusufa> so there's no workaround for this?
<d_bot> <glennsl> with `let b = copy a` you can modify `a` and `b` independently as normal.
<d_bot> <glennsl> given the definition of `copy` I gave above
<d_bot> <glennsl> there's no syntax to just make a copy, but there is syntax to make a copy and update one or more fields, which is what `copy` does.
<d_bot> <glennsl> it updates the one field only because it has to in order to make the copy.
<d_bot> <glennsl> awkward I know, but it was designed first and foremost with immutability in mind.
<d_bot> <glennsl> another option is to use objects instead of records, which has a generic copy function in `Oo.copy`, and sounds like it might suit your use case better.
<yusufa> cool, but I did hear that some people never use objects
<yusufa> so what's the deal with that
<yusufa> :)
<companion_cube> why not make a function to produce the record?
<companion_cube> and call it twice?
<d_bot> <glennsl> I would assume it's been modified in the meantime?
<d_bot> <glennsl> objects are rarely used because they're rarely the best tool for the job.
<mrvn> except for GUIs, GUIs just screasm for objects. :)
<d_bot> <glennsl> I disagree 🙂 imperative UIs do, declarative UIs don't, and the future looks more and more declarative
<d_bot> <glennsl> Think react.js, Elm, flutter and such
<mrvn> don't you still want inheritance in a declarative UI?
<d_bot> <glennsl> I think you can accomplish most of what you'd want inheritance for using composition instead.
<mrvn> composition is kind of functional inheritance
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<mrvn> I find it really helps if every gui element has a size and draw method and such.
<d_bot> <glennsl> you don't need inheritance to have that though
<d_bot> <glennsl> But the concept of inheritance in OO tends to be lumped together with other concepts, like subtyping, default implementations
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<d_bot> <glennsl> sorry, shouldn't edit with IRC bridge...
<mrvn> I've used declarative control flow in C++ recently for resource handling. Look like this e.g.: int fd = open("foo"); AT_EXIT { close(fd); } ... Could be nice if ocaml could do something similar.
<mrvn> I guess Gc.finalise comes closest
<d_bot> <glennsl> you could probably implement that using algebraic effect handlers, whenever that lands
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<d_bot> <Andrew123> can someone please help me figure out how to use a .env file in dune testing? since I'm testing a lib, the .env in the root folder is not getting copied into _build, so a Not_found error is thrown by the Dotenv parser. do you have any tips on what to do?
<d_bot> <rgrinberg> Howe are you tests set up in dune?
<d_bot> <Andrew123> Here is my folder structure
<d_bot> <Andrew123> root------|
<d_bot> <Andrew123> main.ml
<d_bot> <Andrew123> |
<d_bot> <Andrew123> .env
<d_bot> <Andrew123> |
<d_bot> <Andrew123> testing -|
<d_bot> <Andrew123> unit_test.ml
<d_bot> <Andrew123> |
<d_bot> <Andrew123> Lib-----|
<d_bot> <Andrew123> code.ml
<d_bot> <Andrew123> I currently have
<d_bot> <Andrew123> (test
<d_bot> <Andrew123> (name unit_test)
<d_bot> <Andrew123> (libraries lib ounit2))
<d_bot> <Andrew123>
<d_bot> <Andrew123> (rule
<d_bot> <Andrew123> (deps ../.env)
<d_bot> <Andrew123> (target unit_test.ml)
<d_bot> <Andrew123> (action (copy ${<} _build/default/testing))) in dune
<d_bot> <Andrew123> Currently I'm getting this Error: This action has targets in a different directory than the current one,
<d_bot> <Andrew123> this is not allowed by dune at the moment:
<d_bot> <Andrew123> - testing/_build/default/testing
<d_bot> <Andrew123> - testing/unit_test.ml
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<d_bot> <droo> dune sucks
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<d_bot> <rgrinberg> I think you can just add `(deps ../.env)` to the `test` stanza.
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<d_bot> <Andrew123> @rgrinberg thank you so much, I really appreciate it!! I was stuck on this for a while.
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<mbuf> If I have multiple sub-directories that each have an individual dune file, say a/dune b/dune c/dune, how can I build all of them from the top-level with dune? What should be the contents of the top-level dune file?
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<mbuf> Never mind, using this template here https://github.com/lindig/hello
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<garfr> if I want to iterate over a seq, and return another value if a certain value is found, ignoring the rest of seq, what is the best construct to use?
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<oni-on-ion> garfr, map_find ?
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<garfr> oni-on-ion: Perfect, thanks!
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<garfr> Is there a good way to convert a Stack to a list and iterate over it?
<d_bot> <xvw> there is `Stack.iter` or you can convert a Stack to a seq using `Stack.to_seq`
<garfr> Sure, but then the seq has to be converted to a list. Is this a good idea?
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<octachron> garfr, seq are made to be iterated on, do you have a specific reason to go through an intermediary list?
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<garfr> I realized this as well, and just implemented my own version of find_map for seq
<Armael> garfr: you might be interested in the OSeq library (in opam) that provides a bunch of useful combinators on seqs
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<d_bot> <Andrew123> I'm having issues with testing on an sqlite database: after the first attempted insertion, subsequent insertions are rejected due to an IOErr. Does anyone know how to run the tests sequentially to prevent the .db file from locking? I'm currently using @dune runtest -j 1, but it doesn't have any effect on the outcome.
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