#ocaml on 2021-01-27 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2020-09-11 13:16 companion_cube changed the topic of #ocaml to: Discussions about the OCaml programming language | http://www.ocaml.org | OCaml 4.11 release notes: https://caml.inria.fr/pub/distrib/ocaml-4.11/notes/Changes | Try OCaml in your browser: http://try.ocamlpro.com | Public channel logs at http://irclog.whitequark.org/ocaml

00:00 <d_bot> <Kakadu> I'm not sure it is supposed to be linked to something

00:00 <d_bot> <Kakadu> compiler's Makefile links it only to ocamlrun and ocamlrund

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00:01 <d_bot> <Kakadu> @olle

00:02 <olle> rund?

00:03 <olle> I seeI don't have that natively, only in the opam folders

00:04 <olle> maybe I need to use ocamlopt instead of gcc?

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00:11 * olle bye

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12:20 <d_bot> <Kakadu> I don't know...

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15:38 <d_bot> <fangyi> Hi all, I'm trying to OCaml Platform in VSCode, and I keep having the issue "ocamllsp" not found, is there a way to manually specify the path?

15:38 <d_bot> <fangyi> (not sure whether this is the correct channel)

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15:44 <d_bot> <Deadrat> opam install -y merlin ocamlformat utop ocaml-lsp-server

15:44 <d_bot> <fangyi> I have done that, I have ocamllsp in my PATH but VSCode doesn't detect that

15:44 <d_bot> <Deadrat> do that form project window

15:44 <d_bot> <Deadrat> open vscode terminal there

15:45 <d_bot> <Deadrat> and run the command

15:45 <d_bot> <fangyi> You mean "Open a sandboxed terminal"?

15:46 <d_bot> <Deadrat> you created a compiler swithc in your project?

15:46 <d_bot> <fangyi> No I haven't, I have a global 4.11.1 switch

15:46 <d_bot> <Deadrat> do ocaml-lsp shows on your sandbox in vscode

15:47 <d_bot> <Deadrat> ?

15:48 <d_bot> <fangyi> I probably should have said in advance, but I'm using VSCode remote

15:48 <d_bot> <Deadrat> that's probably remote vscode thingy there

15:48 <d_bot> <Deadrat> i havent used vscode remote, so i cant help with this issue

15:48 <d_bot> <fangyi> I have a slightly different issue with local machine as well

15:49 <d_bot> <fangyi> I have 4.08.1 and 4.11.1 switch, and i set my switch to 4.11.1 globally, and also selected that for my project

15:49 <d_bot> <fangyi> Now I get this issue

15:49 <d_bot> <fangyi> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/436568060288172044/804015338157113354/unknown.png

15:52 <d_bot> <fangyi> Thanks for the help!

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16:06 <d_bot> <Deadrat> why Lwt_io.establish_server_with_client_socket uses Lwt_unix.accept instead of accept_n?

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19:56 <oriba> I wonder, what "conf-libjpeg" is for a package. It's available via opam. But it's description says: "Virtual package relying on a libjpeg system installation"

19:56 <oriba> what does that mean?

19:56 <oriba> is it a wrapper of libjpeg?

19:56 <oriba> if so, why is that not in the description? "virtual package" does not say me something

19:57 <oriba> is "virtual package" synonyme to wrapper-library?

19:59 <d_bot> <Kakadu> It checks that system .deb package is installed

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20:11 <oriba> hmhh. what does that help me? Idon't use Debian and even if, looking for a deb-file does not help much, I would guess.

20:11 <oriba> I'm looking for a library that allows me to read image data

20:11 <oriba> camlimages looks quite outdated and is not good documented

20:12 <oriba> and the other image-libs also dont look convincing

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20:13 <oriba> one uses imagmagick (afaik not native, but via imagemagick-calls), and the other I tried ate up my systems ressources. It was even worse than firefox, for just a small jpg

20:13 <oriba> it made my system unusable

20:13 <oriba> maybe thats, why the mention fuzzing for developers there

20:13 <oriba> Looks, I have to write my own libjpeg-wrapper...

20:14 <oriba> Or I saty with python...?!

20:14 <oriba> s/saty/stay/

20:15 <d_bot> <Bluddy> your best bet is probably camlimages

20:17 <Armael> from what I remember, camlimages is quite ancient but should work, it uses the underlying jpeg/... system libraries IIRC, then imagelib is newer and probably less tested but is a pure ocaml implementation, and there's also stb_image which wraps on top of the C stb_image library (a self-contained C library) and thus has no dependencies

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20:22 <d_bot> <Bluddy> imagelib can only open jpegs by converting them to PNG first ie. no native support

20:24 <Armael> ah, indeed

20:24 <Armael> I'd look at stb_image first, it should be quite solid

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21:01 <oriba> didn't know about std_image. if it's working well (from the descriptions it looks like being stable) that's good to know...

21:01 <oriba> for some C-programming maybe.

21:01 <oriba> And to have it in OCaml too...

21:01 <oriba> sounds great

21:02 <oriba> oh, stb_image, not std_image... :)

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21:28 <oriba> oh, 161 open issues

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21:51 <oriba> On my new jobI have to use Perl... clumsy and undocumented legacy code.

21:51 <oriba> How can I convince my boss to try OCaml?

21:52 <oriba> The argument against OCaml: bus factor: nobody knows it, I would be uniq. But at the moment the bus factor with the old code, it does not look better

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22:00 <Fardale> oriba: a virtual package is just there to check non ocaml dependency. Usually it just tries to build a small program to test if the lib is available.

22:02 <oriba> sounds like a workaround

22:02 <oriba> opam can't check the dependencies by itself?

22:03 <olle> gah

22:03 <olle> link errors

22:03 <olle> why would ocamlopt -output-obj -o dummy.o dummy.ml

22:03 <olle> return

22:03 <olle> dummy.o: file not recognized: File truncated

22:03 <olle> File "caml_startup", line 1:

22:03 <olle> Error: Error during linking

22:03 <olle> ?

22:04 <Fardale> oriba: How would you check this?

22:06 <oriba> Fardale: don't know. But if virtual-packages are a way to solve the roblems and have no other reason to exist, why not making it transparently without the need for virtual packages to shine up in opam search?

22:08 <Fardale> I find this solution realy easy, flexible and simple. I don't know how to do better.

22:09 <Fardale> Maybe some conf-* package need a better description

22:09 <olle> (solved)

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