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<Borromini>
svanheule[m]: ping
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<nick[m]>
is it normal if u do a "caldata_extract "art" 0x5000 0x844" and your openwrt device will creash?
<svanheule[m]>
Borromini: o/
<Borromini>
o/
<ynezz>
aparcar[m]: BTW any decisions should be held in public, on designated and already estabilished channels, please use openwrt-adm@
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<rsalvaterra>
aparcar[m]: Just a heads-up, I saw yesterday you were following me on a GitHub account I just deleted. I was finally able to recover my main account, yay! :)
<aparcar[m]>
ynezz: okay
<aparcar[m]>
rsalvaterra: I lost track. who should I follow? #follow4follow
<ynezz>
aparcar[m]: I've disabled notifications on this project explicitly, as 1) I'm not interested in this web/frontend stuff 2) I believe, that in the current CI/CD state anyone with the proper permissions should be able to accept/deploy changes
<ynezz>
aparcar[m]: so feel free to ping me when there are some issues with the CI/CD, otherwise not interested, good luck :)
<aparcar[m]>
ynezz: works for me. I'll post in to adm and ask if anyone has objections
<aparcar[m]>
ynezz: honestly I don't want to mess with web things neither, however you had some comments earlier in some MRs so I thought it's best to keep you up to date
<ynezz>
yeah, I read the openwrt-adm
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<eduardas>
though I am aware I'm not using an initrd yet, I kinda expected the kernel to print something before it panics because of missing rootfs
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<Pix>
Hi all, i got a question, i have an openwrt build tree for a new hardware, how can i build all the userland and kernel modules to have them put on an http mirror ( and how can i pre-setup in the image, the URL for the downloads) ? Is there a documentation for this ?
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<dangole>
f00b4r0, karlp: it is useful for sending stuff over the wire which would otherwise be bloated by a lot of padding. it is not useful to actually work on that data.
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<f00b4r0>
dangole: I'm not sure I parse your sentence. I was relating to our previous chat, the bottomline is (assuming you're not talking to hw) it's a good thing to reorder struct member to minimize slop, but it's a bad idea to force the compiler to pack a struct.
<f00b4r0>
Which, AIUI, matches the result you ended up with :)
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<damex>
https://mikrotik.com/product/hex_s would this one be a good choice if i want poe passthrough with 48v (af/at) and sfp port? all look good beside that it is a mikrotik and mikrotik support tend to be pretty bad
<damex>
i remember recent rants about mikrotik storage patches ;p
<stintel>
haha yes I recall someone wanting to drop support for mikrotik devices entirely or something
<stintel>
but what does the "Passive PoE up to 57V" mean in the PoE-out specs. to me it reads as non-standard so useless
<olmari>
[stintel](https://matrix.to/#/@freenode_stintel:matrix.org): Likely exactly that
<stintel>
oh matrix is at it again ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<olmari>
how so? or I mean how is the bridge failing this time
<olmari>
Honest curiosity
<stintel>
05|17:06:55 < olmari> [stintel](https://matrix.to/#/@freenode_stintel:matrix.org): Likely exactly that
<stintel>
a lot of cruft in your reply
<damex>
stintel: it outputs same as gets on input
<damex>
so if you get 48v - it outputs 48v
<damex>
raspberrypi 4 can be powered by poe and i think about powering by that thing
<stintel>
too bad the pi3/4 need a HAT for PoE and that makes it less compatible with other HATs :(
<olmari>
[damex](https://matrix.to/#/@freenode_damex:matrix.org): so it's only not passive, but "passthrough" as well
<damex>
it does not specifically require af/at so 48v should be fine (chips permit so) if pinout is fine
<damex>
stintel: oh that is completely fine by me. i am using them as a tiny compute nodes :D
<olmari>
issue with generally "passive poe" is that they won't generally work with "active" or standard stuff
<damex>
well, raspberrypi works. spec of chips on poe hat permit so and i tested with 48v output on 'unifi switch 8' (af/at on input and it 'passthrough' 48v)
<damex>
it passes passive 48v on port8
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<damex>
i would be glad to get that tiny device that can have af/at poe on all ports
<damex>
https://mikrotik.com/product/RB960PGS this one is twice bigger (deeper?) and have poe on all ports, although i can not power it by poe to redistribute power ;(
<stintel>
yeah PoE-PD+PT devices are very rare
<olmari>
I was generally suprised switches are nowadays, well, an thing at all, but not expensive either.. and even 24(12) managed ones not THAT expensive, like just over 300€ instead 4figures.
<damex>
hmm... or it can o_O rechecked specs - seems like we can feed passive 48-54v and get 802.3af/at on all ports?
<olmari>
umm...missed part...8 port where 4 poe at/af at beginning part
<damex>
olmari: well, i would like to get a tiny device, not that gigantic 12~24 port managed switches :)
<damex>
more switches - more segmentation in a tiny racks for tiny single board computers ;)
<olmari>
yeah I see your needs :)
<olmari>
for "1" device or generally smaller stuff everything is always more
<damex>
i currently have ubnt edgeswitch 8 150w that <probably> could power some other tiny switch that would redistribute 30w of power (enough for 4 boards)
<olmari>
for snything I am responsible for, there nowadayss exist tiny or big "active" poe switch, then any device needing power is bette to be "active" one
<damex>
olmari: sure, that would be great. huge pro for 'active' power - you could monitor power consumption on a port. never seen it on passive/passthrough ports.
<olmari>
in soho context etc, corporate plannings are own figures then
<olmari>
because passive is quite literally what it says.. there just exit some arbitary powwer brick somewhere
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<olmari>
exists*
<stintel>
olmari: managed 10GbE 802.3bt is still pricy though :P
<stintel>
although compared to some Cisco L3 GbE switches ... the price is ok'ish
<stintel>
the 1440W PoE budget I have is a bit overkill though 😂
<damex>
haha 1440w :D
<olmari>
10g still are yeah.. so are likely bt too :)
<damex>
what are you gonna do with it? ;p
<olmari>
I was suprised that managed 24(12) at/af 1gbit was just over 300 euro and not even bad UI, from HP (at least branding)
<stintel>
in theory I didn't need the extra PSU, this was a miscommunication between supplier and me, but now I do have redundant PSU which is also nice. especially since I'm using several PoE-PD devices
<stintel>
now if a less noisy alternative comes out in the future I'll still be looking at replacing it :P
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<damex>
so choosing new device (switch with openwrt) - would having IMAGE_SIZE := 6976k be a problem ?
<damex>
there is a recommendation to not buy new devices with 8M of flash ;/
<damex>
zyxel_gs1900-10hp looks almost perfect. so far only downside is just tiny flash ;/
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<rsalvaterra>
damex: Why would you need more than 6976 kiB of flash… in a switch…? O_o
<stintel>
I can think of a few things
<stintel>
lldpd, net-snmp, just to name a few
<damex>
rsalvaterra: i don't need that much. i am just worried that it might not be supported for a long time if there is too little storage space available
<damex>
stintel: that should not take that much...
<rsalvaterra>
stintel: Yeah, but you're even crazier than me. :P
<damex>
i would definitely need snmpd+mibs+lldpd there
<stintel>
damex: oh I managed to grow my image for my Unifi AP AC Pro so that it didn't fit in the 8MB anymore
<stintel>
8MB would be a dealbreaker for me
<stintel>
I'm not buying anything <16MB anymore
<damex>
yeah, even that cheap ass ubnt aircube ac has 16MB storage
<rsalvaterra>
I'd also argue a switch, which isn't exposed to the internet, wouldn't need the hardening setting a router does… and those also increase the image size *a lot*.
<rsalvaterra>
… we have it for ARM and MIPS already.
<olmari>
I'd so love for OEMs to be more.. well.. open.. if nothing else, for peoples wanting to.. I kinda hate that for example some Inteno device that is very closed (drivers), broadcom 11ac, based on whatever openwrt heavy mod anyhow is o god damn good on wlan
<damex>
olmari: there is also lots of switches that based on broadcom SoCs and locked down so you can't boot anything from uboot (no flash and no ethernet initialized at that stage or just no support present)
<rsalvaterra>
olmari: Only laws will fix that. The OEM's interest is to keep everything closed. Planned obsolescence…