<tlwoerner>
HdkR: with respect to that list of supported devices... the list includes, for example, T860 and T760, does that also encompass the T864 and T764?
<HdkR>
I think the answer to that is that T864 and T764 aren't real products. Those are really T860 MP4 and T760 MP4
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<icecream95>
nlhowell: From the X log it looks like /dev/dri/card{2,3} exist, which seems wrong
<icecream95>
nlhowell: You might want to try a Wayland compositor such as sway to see if your problems are specific to X
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<nlhowell>
icecream95: thanks! i have sway, but somehow the problems there are *more* interesting
<icecream95>
nlhowell: Well, I'm interested...
<nlhowell>
:)
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<nlhowell>
urxvt is...blinking
<nlhowell>
on sway
<nlhowell>
like, it is similar to situations where terminfo is broken
<nlhowell>
but I don't know enough about that to really debug it
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<nlhowell>
i was ignoring this while trying to fix X
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<nlhowell>
but maybe it makes more sense to investigate them both in parallel
<nlhowell>
installing xterm now, to see if my problems can be replicated
<icecream95>
urxvt is broken for me too, but other terminal emulators I have tried work fine almost all of the time
<nlhowell>
it's funny, because i have an x86 machine where urxvt-on-sway works just fine
<robmur01>
the only catch I'm not sure of is whether you could license T628 and build an MP4 config as as 2xMP2 core groups, rather than 1xMP4 as a T624 would be
<alyssa>
robmur01: does t6xx exist??
<robmur01>
alyssa: only in nightmares :P
<alyssa>
Oh, good, so I'm not the only one who gets thosw.
<robmur01>
"mummy what if there's a Juno under my bed? :("
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<tomeu>
don't worry, it will keep you warm at night
<alyssa>
relevant xkcd
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<thecycoone>
xantoz: I'm having lots of problems, haven't tested that particular one
<thecycoone>
but I guess I could now
<thecycoone>
on the plus side, suspend has been working nicely
<thecycoone>
oh - I have opengl enabled in firefox. Then no, I haven't seen it
<tlwoerner>
alyssa's collabora posts aren't on the planet
<tlwoerner>
does panfrost have an email list?
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<alyssa>
krh: tlwoerner nhp[m] thank you :)
<alyssa>
tlwoerner: planet.fd.o you mean? and no, we don't use mailing lists anymore (when we did, it was just the usual mesa-dev@lists.fd.o)
<alyssa>
nhp[m]: I don't use gfx drivers much, I just write them =P
<urjaman>
reminds me of how i wrote a whole driver for a protocol (and the firmware on the other end) for flashing "bios" (well, NOR) flashes, and then i very rarely actually need to use it :P
<alyssa>
nice :P
<anarsoul>
alyssa: hi
<anarsoul>
alyssa: did you try to profile x11perf ShmPutImage 500x500 on panfrost?
<anarsoul>
it hits sw fallback in glamor for me on lima
<alyssa>
I tried, couldn't make sense of the results though... I wasn't aware there was a sw fallback?
<urjaman>
... iirc i tried that (like 2 months ago soon but anyways) and it was horrible
<anarsoul>
alyssa: glamor_put_image_bail()
<anarsoul>
and since it reads from GPU buffer performance is terrible
<alyssa>
Ah :|
<anarsoul>
yeah
<anarsoul>
20x slowdown compared to sw rendering
<alyssa>
that would explain quite a bit :c
<urjaman>
i dont remember what x11perf action it was (that also worked on the XFree86 3.3.6 in my 486) but i remember commenting here that a 25Mhz 486 was faster at something that my C201 :P
<anarsoul>
x11perf results are really discouraging on lima :(
<urjaman>
ah yeah, -scroll10; the 486SL did about 3300/sec and the C201 did 1250/sec
<anarsoul>
urjaman: in 486 times memory wasn't a lot slower than CPU bus
<alyssa>
anarsoul: but does it run supertuxkart???
<anarsoul>
alyssa: lima? yes with older renderer
<anarsoul>
performance is not good though, especially in complex scenes
<anarsoul>
yuq profiled it and it spends quite some time in index min/max calculation
<anarsoul>
and yeah, since it's also GPU buffer it's slow
<alyssa>
anarsoul: I meant urjaman's 486 ;)
* urjaman
blinks
<anarsoul>
alyssa: it runs doom
<anarsoul>
maybe even doom2
<anarsoul>
and wc2
<anarsoul>
I've even seen starcraft running on 486, but it was 486dx4-100
<urjaman>
I havent tried any of the DOOM things on it.. mostly because i dont care about them
<urjaman>
also becaue DOS only works from an actual spinny 120MB 2.5" IDE disk and i havent used that in a while (i have linux on a CF but the BIOS has issues with the CF...)
<anarsoul>
try another CF? some have better compatibility with older systems
<urjaman>
i've tried 3 different ones
<urjaman>
one was worse (not even linux can run it properly :P), two have the same issue
<urjaman>
i'm thinking of putting one of those mSATA to 2.5" IDE adapters on it at some point for funsies to see if that works (it does whine about HDDs over 504MB but atleast it'll boot so ... 32GB SSD lol?)
<urjaman>
the SD to 2.5" IDE adapters cause total POST failure
<anarsoul>
ouch
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<alyssa>
robclark: it's ES3.0, not deferred, read the fine print
<alyssa>
:halo:
<HdkR>
Does the game explode when you enable all the settings? :D
<alyssa>
/* no comment */
<HdkR>
hehe
<robclark>
hmm, I didn't realize there was any intermediate step between the old render path and the new deferred path.. but I guess I've mostly only looked at stk built for gl
<alyssa>
robclark: OpenGL ES 3.0 without 'advanced lighting' checked.
<alyssa>
Compared to ES2/GL2, it's still a new rendering path
<alyssa>
makes heavy use of instancing for particles
<alyssa>
Adds some shadows
<robclark>
ahh, ok..
<alyssa>
Way better optimized (able to hit much better FPS than on the legacy renderer)
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