alyssa changed the topic of #panfrost to: Panfrost - FLOSS Mali Midgard & Bifrost - Logs https://freenode.irclog.whitequark.org/panfrost - <daniels> avoiding X is a huge feature
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<sfan5> hi
<sfan5> this channel seems quite well hidden, I couldn't find it mentioned on the website or on gitlab
<HdkR> I don't believe there are many of the mesa IRC channels mentioned anyway
<HdkR> s/anyway/anywhere
<sfan5> I did find #lima
<HdkR> Tricky
<HdkR> Looks like #dri-devel is mentioned on the Mailing List page of all things
<sfan5> anyway what I'm here for is to ask if ^C'ing glxgears is supposed to crash the kernel
<sfan5> here's the dmesg https://0x0.st/iFf7.txt
<HdkR> It's not supposed to, Bifrost is in some pretty heavily development though
<sfan5> yeah that's about what I expected to hear
<macc24> happens on G72 too, sometimes
<alyssa> i thought that was fixed :<
<alyssa> sfan5: it's a feature to uh debug kernel... crashing...? :P
<macc24> wait was i not supposed to just ignore that?
<macc24> it was happening to me too lol
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<alyssa> macc24: happens for me too but I haven't updated my kenrel in ages, I thought bbrezillon had a patch for that, maybe not
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<macc24> since duet people would hang out here: does anyone know the pinout of its keyboard and if it's possible to make custom keyboard for it?
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<robmur01> there was a patch to address the AS teardown race, but I don't think it ever got merged
<robmur01> FWIW it can happen regardless of GPU model - it's purely about the relative lifetimes of stuff in the kernel - but does tend to be easier to hit with slower GPUs
<alyssa> robmur01: happens a _lot_ more on bifrost then
<alyssa> then again panfrost perf is a _lot_ worse on bifrost for the moment so.. fair
* macc24 can't wait to see actual performance on bifrost
<robmur01> basically the longer jobs take to finish after things start getting pulled out from underneath them, the more likely it is to try to resolve a fault in the wrong pagetable code and fall over
<robmur01> warnings are likely, actually crashing is luck ;)
<macc24> robmur01: i have noticed that performance starts to tank after it happens
<alyssa> robmur01: hah
<alyssa> macc24: I wonder if that's related to the "midgard slows down the longer it is in use" bug I've been haunted by for years
<macc24> alyssa: it was on bifrost
<alyssa> right, "related"
<macc24> wait
<macc24> midgard slows down?
<macc24> as in performance = 1/uptime ?
<alyssa> I have noticed this under some circumstances, yes.
<alyssa> Not noticeable from regular desktop use, but very noticeable from heavy benchmarking
<macc24> oh god so that's why
* alyssa never figured out why
* macc24 runs away
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