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<aw-> hi all
<aw-> Regenaxer: re arm64 Pil, what does "as there is no global package yet, bootstrap it with" mean?
<aw-> what is global package?
<aw-> ohhhhhh I just realized, you made a mistake with the first URL, then corrected in the second email
<aw-> couldn't the arm32 bootstrap the arm64 ?
<Regenaxer> Hi aw-
<Regenaxer> Hmm, where is that written?
<Regenaxer> Ah
<Regenaxer> There is no Debian package available
<Regenaxer> not yet
<aw-> but if I compile like: cd src;make;
<aw-> then use that to cd src64; make
<aw-> should work, no?
<Regenaxer> yes, should do
<aw-> great!
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<clacke[m]> so, any PiL gigs in the HK TZ? I've got two months to read up.
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<freemint_> Hi
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<freemint_> I got two question about miniPico lisp. Would it run on a ATmega8L? If so how much ROM&RAM would it need?
<aw-> freemint_: good questions
<aw-> i think miniPicolisp is 32-bit, and ATmega is 8-bit.. so you might run into issues with that
<aw-> maybe
<aw-> i don't know enough about it tbh
<freemint_> me too
<freemint_> word: sizeof(void*) == sizeof(unsigned long)
<aw-> yeah i was **just** looking at that
<aw-> it uses 8-bit words
<freemint_> it being?
<aw-> minipicolisp
<aw-> i don't know
<aw-> anyways it's designed for embedded, so i can't see why it wouldn't run on your AVR, but i don't know about ram/rom requirements..
<freemint_> maybe avr is to embedded no idea
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<Regenaxer> ret
<Regenaxer> miniPicoLisp does not depend on a wordsize
<Regenaxer> runs well on 64-bit
<Regenaxer> I know of people who got it running with less than 100 KiB of RAM
<Regenaxer> (stack + heap)
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<aw-> great!
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<freemint_> Regenaxer: Then minipicolisp is to fat i need something with less than 8k RAM
<Regenaxer> haha, no way with Lisp. Forth is fine for that
<freemint_> Regenaxer: Do you have opinions on niklaus Wirth?
<Regenaxer> I don't like his style
<Regenaxer> too docmatic
<freemint_> What about his style?
<Regenaxer> attitude
<freemint_> I am currently reading The school of Niklaus Wirth "The art of simplicity"
<freemint_> I see you are short on time but a more wordy elaboration would be interesting (in the future)
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