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<ohir> April Fools ;))
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<Scramble1ams> Aww :'(
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<jeremyheiler> lol
<SeanTAllen> ohir: did you know that pony was presented at MSR this week or was that purely luck?
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<sylvanc> heheh ohir i had to try the link even though you already said april fools :)
<sylvanc> and yes, i did a talk at microsoft research on Tuesday
<sylvanc> it was recorded, so there may be publicly available video at some point
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<shepheb> cool stuff.
<shepheb> I'd love a single-address-space Pony-powered OS a la MSR's Midori
<shepheb> (that's a great series of blog posts, actually)
<shepheb> there's also a talk pretending to look back on the "30 years of Javascript" from 15 years in the future
<shepheb> by the Destroy All Software guy whose name escapes me
<shepheb> the really interesting part of that talk from my point of view is a single-address-space operating system he calls METAL that eliminates copying by using a memory-safe language for everything but device drivers.
<shepheb> Javascript is hardly the best choice for that, but Pony is an excellent one.
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<sylvanc> i completely agree, shepheb
<sylvanc> software memory isolation is a very powerful OS concept
<sylvanc> Midory, Singularity, both fantastic projects
<sylvanc> s/Midory/Midori/
<shepheb> just need to have a "legacy" layer that runs ELF binaries in a little isolation box
<shepheb> and that sounds slow - but that's exactly what we already do
<shepheb> I should leave my controversial project at Google and pitch rebuilding Chrome on Pony. I'm sure that'll be uncontroversial.
<SeanTAllen> jeremyheiler: i just did a bunch of minor things for ponylang-mode like added a contributing, changelog etc
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<shepheb> debugging Pony in gdb is nice, but it seems I can't inspect objects? I can't eg. access fields of some Pony object.
<SeanTAllen> version 0.0.4 of emacs ponylang-mode released. should be on melpa in a few hours: https://github.com/SeanTAllen/ponylang-mode/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md
<shepheb> SeanTAllen: was that part of the State of the Stable survey thing? I'd be curious about the editor distribution.
<shepheb> probably the usual mix of emacs, vim and Sublime for the majority, but I'm still curious
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<SeanTAllen> shepheb: it was
<SeanTAllen> emacs, vim, sublime and atom are the big 4
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<SeanTAllen> o son of a bitch. i looked at the travis failures.
<SeanTAllen> its already whitelisted. the package we are being told to request whitelisting for.
<SeanTAllen> sylvanc ^^^
<SeanTAllen> and it was working before despite it being shown as disallowed
<jemc> SeanTAllen: looks like GitHub is doubling down on the culture of squashing: https://github.com/blog/2141-squash-your-commits
<jemc> I'm not particularly happy about such practices gaining traction, but if we must have that policy, then at least having a GitHub button for it alleviates some of the end-user burden.
<SeanTAllen> given that this is april 1... i assume its not true
<SeanTAllen> if it does turn out to be true, i have docs to update
<SeanTAllen> btw jemc... 3.8 builds seem to be working again
<jemc> I wish it were a joke, but I don't think it is :P
<SeanTAllen> squash is good, no one wants to see Sean's 40 commits for Logger.
<SeanTAllen> those 40 arent even vaguely helpful
<jemc> btw: I see it in the merge options when I go to merge a PR
<jemc> use the little drop-down error
<jemc> err
<jemc> arrow
<jemc> freudian slip
<SeanTAllen> i'm turing linux 3.8 builds back on
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<sylvanc> shepheb: i inspect fields in gdb/lldb regularly
<sylvanc> like: p this->_size
<sylvanc> (c syntax expressions)
<sylvanc> squash and merge seems to be Not A Joke
<sylvanc> oh, jemc already spotted it
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<SeanTAllen> Something to make me very :) and jemc very :(
<jemc> together we form pony's new nested string delimiters! :(foo:(bar:)baz:)
<jemc> I can see the syntax tutorial now - "you may use any valid emoticon to start a nested string literal, but you must use an emoticon of the equal and opposite emotion to end the literal"
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<lucus16> :')
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