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<ponysaurus> @jemc: I see what you mean about atomicity. Another one that got me is how the binaries are going to be distributed, and master-slave / pub-sub etc.? Thanks for the links to the papers. I didn't notice them at all. I will definitely read them.
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<Candle> jonas-l: Thanks, that's somewhat useful. I'll try to do a write-up of the things I encounter and find more challenging!
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<yawnt> is anyone aware of documentations regarding the runtime? examples for standalone apps, integration, etc
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<lispmeister> standalone, as in "run inside a container"?
<yawnt> as in, write C code
<yawnt> link it against the runtime
<yawnt> and use runtime's actor
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<lispmeister> yawnt take a look at this example (not my code): https://github.com/doublec/pony-clib-example
<yawnt> thanks! that's what i found as well, was hoping was something more in depth, i will look at the code
<yawnt> no worries :)
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<shepheb> ha
<shepheb> whoops, mischan
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<Jbbouille> Hello all: I am trying to build ponyc on fedora 23 and at some point I got this /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lLLVMOrcJIT. Does anyone have an idea of what is going on ?
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<mcguire> (on call) Why is identityof's behavior on tuples ok for hashing?
<mcguire> Seems like the problem for using xor to combine hash values would still apply: the information content is ends up too constrained.
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<mcguire> Jbbouille, (1) did you get the source from github? Recently? (2) Did you enable link-time optimization?
<mcguire> Wait. I'm confused. That's not an LTO error.
<mcguire> What version of LLVM do you have?
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<mcguire> And where's LLVMOrcJIT (!) coming from?
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<jemc> mcguire: regarding identityof and hashing -
<jemc> if you have a U64-sized hash, hashing on U128-sized values, you are definitely going to have some values with the same hash - there's no getting around it
<jemc> the trick is that identity comparison using `is` will work correctly, with no collisions
<jemc> so we mainly just need to ensure that folks aren't treating `(identityof x) == (identityof y)` as equivalent to `x is y`, because the former will have collisions and the latter will not
<jemc> changing the name of `identityof` should help to solve that problem
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<mcguire> jemc, thanks!
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