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<TwoNotes>
In distributed Pony, if I have reasons not related to performance or reliability such that I want Actors to *not* migrate between nodes, can I prevent that and still get the benefits of remote "be" invocations?
<Praetonus>
TwoNotes: If I recall correctly, the concept of machine-specific data is planned for distributed Pony
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<TwoNotes>
Not cross-platform? sigh
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<ericbmerritt>
in general is it reasonable to depend on 'master'? Its been awhile since the last release
<SeanTAllen>
ericbmerritt: yes
<ericbmerritt>
thanks
<SeanTAllen>
TwoNotes: as previously discussed, initial version of pony serialization requires communication amongst same binaries. that means, no cross platform. the serialization already exists, there is no actor migration yet, so its a bit of a moot point to talk about it as it doesn't exist and won't for a while. anything i say now is might possibly change.
<SeanTAllen>
ericbmerritt: we are hoping to do a new release soon, there were/are a number of problems in the release pipeline and we've been looking for someone to take that on and fix, looks like *fingers crossed*, we finally have such a someone.
<ericbmerritt>
SeanTAllen: no worries. I am starting to do some things in pony and just wanted to have a good view on what was usable
<SeanTAllen>
on the distributed pony front, if anyone wants to help push that work forward, drop by one of the weekly sync meetings to discuss some.
<TwoNotes>
Oh, I did not realize that the same-platform serialization was actually part of the distributed Pony project.
<SeanTAllen>
ericbmerritt: we have our own fork that we update 2-5/6 times a month from master.
<ericbmerritt>
hmm, it looks like some of the tests fail in master.
<SeanTAllen>
TwoNotes: you need serialization to do the method calls, so ya it was the first step. sylvanc set aside work on distributed pony for the last few weeks to work on generalized backpressure and a couple performance issues.
<TwoNotes>
I was hoping for something like the Erlang External Binary Format
<ericbmerritt>
to be fair. I have not dug into this.
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<SeanTAllen>
the process package does have occassional errors, the fix for that is in progress. there's an open PR that is ongoing.
<SeanTAllen>
have you tried running the net tests before?
<SeanTAllen>
those usually fail due to environment/firewall issues as they attempt to connect to the internet
<ericbmerritt>
no, this is my first time building attempting to build from scratch
<SeanTAllen>
ok, so that is most likely something on your machine vis-a-vis firewall
<SeanTAllen>
the net tests attempt to listen on a port and then create a client to communicate with it. some people have reported firewalls interfering with the client connect aspect of that.
<SeanTAllen>
for a while we got occassional segfaults on test runs but that was tracked down to pcre2 library doing "interesting" things with memory and occassionally overwriting memory it shouldn't have.
<SeanTAllen>
last was fixed last week
<ericbmerritt>
my suspicion is that nix should probably not be running the tests on install then.
<SeanTAllen>
we run the tests on linux/osx and windows on each PR so in general they should be passing but there are intermittent failures we are looking at, the process one we think we know, the net one we've always been able to diagnose as firewall except it happens once in a blue moon on travis and we haven't the slightest idea why.
<SeanTAllen>
travis is wonderful in many ways but its also rather opaque outside what you get from logs that you yourself generate.
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<SeanTAllen>
doublec: any progress on a generic chapter for the tutorial? also, any interest in presenting at a VUG sometime?
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<ericbmerritt>
if I have a dependency in pony A that depends on B which depends on C. To compile A do I need both B and C to be available in the PONYPATH or is it sufficient that only B is in the path? (Assuming that B and C are libraries)
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<SeanTAllen>
You need B and C.
<SeanTAllen>
o wait
<SeanTAllen>
A depends on B and B depends on C
<SeanTAllen>
not that A depends on C
<SeanTAllen>
I believe you still need C in the Ponypath, but I could be misremembering