17:48 <aav> is there a any notation for Array literals? or this is the only solution: Array[U8].>push(0xab).>push(0xba)....

17:50 <TonyLo> do you mean like: let a = [0xba, 0xba] ?

17:51 <aav> TonyLo: yep

17:52 <aav> TonyLo: thanx!

17:52 <TonyLo> you will need to add the type like so: let a: Array[U8] = [0xba, 0xba] as it is ambiguos in this case

17:52 <aav> TonyLo: yes, sure :)

17:54 <Praetonus> aav: It's also possible to do [as U8: 0xab, 0xba]

17:55 <TonyLo> nice!

17:56 <aav> Praetonus: cool! thanx!

18:42 <TwoNotes> I understand what a leading underscore means on class, method, and field names. But what does it mean on a source filename?

18:50 <Praetonus> TwoNotes: We chose a convention some time ago that the name of a standard library file should map to the name of the main type in that file. So if the type declared in that file is private, the filename should start with an underscore

18:51 <TwoNotes> Ok, then it is a documentation convention, not something the compiler actually does anything with?

18:51 <Praetonus> Yes. I don't think the compiler cares about specific filenames

19:19 <TwoNotes> Where can I see how to use the tool that extracts all the Markdown from .pony files and builds web pages? I know the first step is the compiler -g switch, but then what?

19:56 <SeanTAllen> docgen.c TwoNotes

19:56 <SeanTAllen> the `_` in filenames is unrelated tot he markdown generation.

19:57 <SeanTAllen> TwoNotes: it use mkdocs so the instructions for it are what you really want to know

19:58 <SeanTAllen> also this from the tutorial TwoNotes : https://www.dropbox.com/s/u4qa15lihr9508p/Screenshot%202017-02-05%2014.58.32.png?dl=0

21:02 <TonyLo> what are folks recommendations for debugging (other than Debug and print) ?

21:06 <SeanTAllen> lldb

21:07 <TonyLo> on windows :)

21:07 <SeanTAllen> me and windows don't mix, so i'm the wrong person to ask

21:07 <TonyLo> ok, thx

22:24 <TwoNotes> Does the version of lldb have to match the version of llvm?

22:28 <SeanTAllen> i dont believe so, but i'm not sure

22:29 <jemc> TwoNotes: I don't think it needs to match, because `lldb` can be used with projects that don't use LLVM, including projects that were compiled by gcc.

22:30 <TwoNotes> Good. GDB is not an option on ARM - it has a bug that results in instant crashes. I would rather learn just one debugger. But the available versions of LLVM that are also supported by Pony are hard to find.

22:31 <SeanTAllen> yeah, as far as i know, there's no connection but, i've never explicitly set out to verify that

22:49 <TwoNotes> I am putting together the code to merge of my net/http package, but am undecided what to do with the web server app I wrote to go with it. It is considerably more complicated than most 'example' programs, with lots of documentation.

22:50 <TwoNotes> For configuration files, user authentication, etc

22:51 <TwoNotes> Stuff it all into comments? It is in MD format

23:29 <SeanTAllen> I think it would make sense to have that as a separate package that you maintain outside the standard libary TwoNotes. Sounds like its own project to me.

23:30 <SeanTAllen> One thing about examples is they aren't actually useful programs really.

23:30 <SeanTAllen> Beyond the teaching aspect.