03:02 <Shorttail> Is there a way of getting a stacktrace?

04:36 <vaninwagen> you can get one by running your program in a debugger (gdb or lldb)

04:37 <vaninwagen> The closest you get to that in pure pony is by using __loc, which will give you the source location where you place it

13:20 <ichimaru> test

13:20 <ichimaru> I can speak \o/

13:22 <ichimaru> This might be a question not specific to pony, I hope it's ok to ask here. When a TCPConnection no longer works because of a network partition, will the `closed` function be called?

15:04 <SeanTAllen> ichimaru: it will be called when the OS closes the socket. so, there isn't a "yes/no" answer to that question. its a "it depends".

15:06 <ichimaru> SeanTAllen: so, I can't depend on it and should use a heartbeat and timeout instead?

15:11 <SeanTAllen> you definitely can not depend on a socket being closed as a way to assure liveness

15:11 <SeanTAllen> at minimum, you need a heartbeat system.

15:12 <SeanTAllen> what you are really talking about is failure detection. thats a deep and complicated subject, most folks stop at heartbeats being "good enough" for their particular problem.

15:14 <ichimaru> Ok, Thanks a lot!