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<rindolf> Hi all! How can I fix this pypy3/numpy issue - https://paste.debian.net/1093457/
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<rindolf> anypython?
<ronan> rindolf: your numpy install is somehow borked, you're missing some external dependency (or numpy can't find it).
<ronan> AFAIK, it's not really a pypy-specific issue
<rindolf> ronan: hi, a pypy3 -m pip install pypy does not help
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<ronan> rindolf: how did you install numpy?
<rindolf> ronan: pip
<ronan> rindolf: do you have OpenBLAS?
<rindolf> ronan: dont know
<ronan> rindolf: try to install it (e.g. with 'sudo apt install libopenblas-dev') and then reinstall numpy
<rindolf> ronan: i had lib64blas-devel-3.8.0-4.mga7 installed
<ronan> hmm, I guess that should be fine
<rindolf> ronan: i can try rebuilding it
<ronan> rindolf: make sure you really got rid of numpy before rebuilding. Strange things happen if e.g. you've ever built it with setup.py install
<rindolf> ronan: ok
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<rindolf> ronan: rebuilt and removed everything - still the same
<rindolf> ronan: can you try?
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<ronan> rindolf: works for me
<rindolf> ronan: ok
<ronan> rindolf: sorry, I don't think I can help further. Try asking the numpy devs
<rindolf> ronan: ok
<ronan> rindolf: well, you could try to use a binary wheel from https://github.com/antocuni/pypy-wheels
<rindolf> ronan: ah
<kenaan> rlamy py3.6 72f1ec088dc7 /pypy/doc/whatsnew-pypy3-head.rst: Add missing branches to whatsnew
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<technillogue> antocuni2: blueyed: hey, I've been struggling to get pdbpp tox to run, would there happen to be a server with the relevent pythons installed that I could ssh into?
<technillogue> (I have very limited local space, and my usual remote server runs NixOS, which is very cool in theory but completely impossible to run tox with)
<technillogue> (also, pdbpp master seems to be failing rn? should I be making the namespace fixing PR I talked to blueyed about against the last release?)
<technillogue> (let me know if there's a better channel for this)
<kenaan> rlamy py3.6 73b10d9d0f3e /lib-python/3/test/test_warnings/__init__.py: Skip pypy-incompatible test (see issue #3048)
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<windel_> Hi all
<windel_> What is up?
<windel_> RustPython dev here. We are building up rustpython along cpython and pypy
<windel_> We are now facing the standard library, which is kind of a pain
<windel_> I'm curious to your opinions on this topic of sharing a standard library for python between different implementations of python.
<simpson> Folks in Europe are likely asleep, assuming they haven't melted. I'm not really a core dev. AIUI the pure-Python parts of stdlib are copied and carefully patched, and the existing splits between `whateverlib` and `_whateverlib` are working alright.
<simpson> You may be more interested in the low-level user-visible differences, like http://doc.pypy.org/en/latest/cpython_differences.html
<arigato> yes, we import CPython's and apply a few patches on top. In theory we should write the patches in a way that can be contributed back, but we haven't found much interest for such contributions in the past so we gave up for now
<arigato> these patches are the easy part of upgrading PyPy to a newer version of CPython, though. CPython devs nowadays tend to be careful when doing new additions ("often")
<Alex_Gaynor> arigato: FWIW, I'm generally happy to rubber stamp PRs for CPython if people send PRs :-)
<arigato> right, we haven't really caught up with the New Git Way of Things of CPython
<Alex_Gaynor> Hopefully it'll make it easier to get changes merged.
<windel_> I'm in Europe and still in solid state :P
<windel_> It was a close one however
<windel_> 40 degrees is not normal
<windel_> Thanks for explaining your way of working. I think for rustpython we will probably do the same
<windel_> In the meantime, I would like to try out a shared standard library, organized as different module groups.
<windel_> This will probably take time to get consensus
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