cfbolz changed the topic of #pypy to: PyPy, the flexible snake (IRC logs: https://quodlibet.duckdns.org/irc/pypy/latest.log.html#irc-end ) | use cffi for calling C | if a pep adds a mere 25-30 [C-API] functions or so, it's a drop in the ocean (cough) - Armin
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<proteusguy> Does pypy have any awareness of Python3 type declarations? Can it use those for optimization?
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<cfbolz> proteusguy: it ignores them
<cfbolz> proteusguy: the jit doesn't really need them to find out the types (after all, it can do that on python2 as well)
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<krono> mattip: do you have a moment?
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<mattip> krono: what's up?
<krono> mattip: I was in a fit trying to find a numpy for a RHEL7 on IBM Power9 (sorry, offtopic here) but I _think_ I found Redhats stuff fort that. BUT:
<krono> mattip: I have a ac922 IBM ppc64le at hand
<krono> so, if someone needs a hand with that platform, ping me :D
<mattip> not sure what is the problem and what is the solution. NumPy runs travis's ppc64le CI, but we can't ship a wheel yet
<mattip> TL;DR - we need a PEP 600 manylinux image, which will not work on RHEL7
<mattip> in my free time I am pushing PEP 600 forward slowly, help moving it would be great
<mattip> the next step is to rethink the branch-per-manylinux-version layout of github://pypa/manylinux,
<mattip> so we can have a single branch with many images instead of one image per branch,
<mattip> which will ease the maintenance burden each time new python versions are released
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<krono> mattip: yes, i have seen the manylinux stuff, it seems very reasonable
<krono> however, went the RHEL-Route, that is using their subscription stuff and rh-python38-python-numpy
<krono> If I have some time at my hand, I'll probably look at pypy and maybe numpy-on-pypy on that machine
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<mattip> cool
<antocuni> what is the RHEL-Route?
<krono> antocuni: using subscriptions and then installing stuff via https://access.redhat.com/solutions/472793
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<bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-win-x86-32/builds/2431 [mattip: force build, py3.7]
<bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-win-x86-32/builds/5467 [mattip: force build, py3.7]
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<bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-win-x86-32/builds/2431 [mattip: force build, py3.7]
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<bbot2> Exception: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-win-x86-32/builds/5467 [mattip: force build, py3.7]
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<YannickJadoul> mattip (or anyone else): A discussion was started over at pybind11 about the minimally supported version
<YannickJadoul> I'm sure some actual PyPy input there would be great, if there's anything to add :-)
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<mattip> using ppy2.7-v7.3.1 as a host platform for own and rpython tests on windows
<mattip> there are some new failures like this one
<mattip> about rawrefcount and weakrefs
<mattip> ahh, it also fails on linux the same way
<mattip> ahh, of course, it is missing a gc.collect()
<arigato> mattip: thanks for finding these issues
<mattip> I was just about to give up and ask for your help :)
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<YannickJadoul> Thanks tos9 and mattip! Exactly what I wanted to hear :-)
<tos9> :)
<mattip> pybind11 is not a good match at all for pypy
<YannickJadoul> I know :-( But better some support than none?
<mattip> I wish Scipy did not include it for wrapping fft
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<YannickJadoul> :/ If there is something pybind11 can do about such things, it would be nice, but...
<YannickJadoul> The good news is that once HPy is more ready, we can try sneaking it in without users noticing? ;-)
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<mattip> I switched the host pypy on win32 to last night's build
<mattip> and pushed a few trivial fixes so the default build will trigger
<mattip> maybe that will help?
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