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<geza>
there is a way to unblock a locked fb session on NN?
<geza>
precisely, I lost my terminal on NN, but I can operate via usb ethernet
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<Ayla>
geza: gmenu2x has some code which does just that
<geza>
ayla: the keyboard is absolutely irresponsible
<geza>
ayla: I have only contact via usb
<Ayla>
then telnet and launch gmenu2x
<Ayla>
provided you have it, and it's not too old
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<zenlunatic>
so mpd only supports wav?
<emeb>
mpd does .mp3 format for me.
<emeb>
but that's on an ubuntu x86 system. the version for ben might not have proprietary codecs compiled in...
<zenlunatic>
vorbis?
<unclouded>
I couldn't get the stock mpd in the latest image to scan any .ogg files in to its database although maybe I was doing something wrong. I wrote up some of what I found here: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Mpd
<unclouded>
you'll still need to patch the init file as described on the Mpd wiki page
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<unclouded>
superb. mpd can read track titles from vorbis comments
<zenlunatic>
cool. didn't get a bnn to work out of the box
<zenlunatic>
probably when people ask me why i bought it, I'll just say "to learn"
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<erikkugel>
As far as I know, the BNN intentionally shuns any non-open standards, so there is intentionally no MP3 support as far as I know in the official image. This was a hot topic a while ago and might have changes since.
<unclouded>
indeed. sorry if there's .mp3 support in that .ipk I posted earlier. I'm using .oggs with it, which I'm assuming are ok?
<wolfspraul>
erikkugel: no changes
<wolfspraul>
we want and need to keep this tainted stuff out, have to focus on the future
<wolfspraul>
once the mp3 patents have safely expired, I am open minded to including it, of course
<wolfspraul>
unclouded: please don't worry, we are doing a fair job of keeping this out practically, and you can and should feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and to help others. enough is enough.
<wolfspraul>
we won't let them ruin our happiness, right? :-)
<wolfspraul>
once in a while I go through the downloads server, chat logs etc. and remove everything that looks like mp3 :-)
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<wolfspraul>
I'm listening to beautiful music right now, stored in a free format but the format discussion is really silly, brought to us by greed nothing else. it will go away...
<wolfspraul>
my take on this
<unclouded>
it didn't even occur to me that my .ipk could expose you to liability. I'll find out for sure if it has .mp3 support and remove it if so
<wolfspraul>
but please relax, I think we have a good culture here
<wolfspraul>
we remove this tainted crap so we can focus on the good stuff
<wolfspraul>
and eventually the patents expire, then life is good :-)
* zenlunatic
hands out beers
<wolfspraul>
all over the world some people have nothing better to do than to invent parasitic business model, I think that will always stay with us
<wolfspraul>
they come and go. mostly they don't really enjoy what they do, so it's temporary...
<unclouded>
ok, I've checked the .ipk and there's no .mp3 support in there, at least putting an mp3 in music_dir and doing a rescan won't convince mpd that the mp3 exists
<wolfspraul>
relax :-)
<erikkugel>
glad to hear I'm still on top of our policies :)
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<unclouded>
has something changed with ubiattach? I'm trying to mount my old NAND data partition and I do "ubiattach /dev/ubi_ctrl -m 3" and it says "cannot attach mtd3" "error 22 (Invalid argument)"
* zenlunatic
's BNN has shipped
<xiangfu>
unclouded, are you using latest image?
<unclouded>
/etc/VERSION says 2011-11-13
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<unclouded>
mtd3 would have been formatted with the 2011-02-23 release though, if that makes any difference
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<whitequark>
DocScrutinizer: ahh, _this_ kind of RFID
<whitequark>
I never heard these things called "RFID"s
<xiangfu>
unclouded, if there is no data important. you can try format again.
<whitequark>
and, erm, aren't they simple LC circuits? at least the ones I have disassembled quite certainly were (through I'm not definitely sure)
<xiangfu>
unclouded, I used mtd3 for long time. in every release test.
<xiangfu>
unclouded, so far so good. :)
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<unclouded>
xiangfu, I can't really remember what data is on it, so I don't know for sure that I don't mind losing it
<unclouded>
and their conclusion was that it was simply worn out, which is weird because I barely used that data partition
<unclouded>
so I'll format mtd3 after all
<xiangfu>
unclouded, there is a 'mtd.nn' command for easy format and mount
<unclouded>
xiangfu, I'm looking at that right now
<unclouded>
and I'm wondering why the "-s" option to ubimkvol? does it not use the whole partition by default? ubimkvol --help doesn't explain
<unclouded>
( it says "-s" is optional)
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<wolfspraul>
puh, openscad.org is packaged neither in Debian nor Fedora
<wolfspraul>
seems that we are working on the cutting edge :-)
<valhalla>
wolfspraul: is it possible that openscad used to be problematic as far as licensing is concerned? I believe I have seen a mail on it a few days ago on some debian mailing list (regarding the resolution of said problems)
<valhalla>
(checking in a few minutes)
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<lindi->
wolfspraul: I too remember that openscad had a licensing issue
<valhalla>
confirmed: it was mentioned on debian-mentors, and claimed that the licensing issues had been fixed
<wpwrak>
hmm, sounds like a heliport around here today. there was a train crash this morning. and helicopters are still coming and going.
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<viric>
wpwrak: I read in the newspaaper..
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<valhalla>
wolfspraul: there is a package, but it is still missing a debian developer to check and upload it
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<indistylo>
Folks , Please suggest where to locate this directory modemmanager/sms-send.py file , i have already installed modemmanager, but not able to locate sms-send.py
<Doc_No_ACTA_zer>
made it to the prime time TV news here
<abushcrafterforg>
How loud is the speaker? Will I hear/feel it in my pocket even in a noisy env? Is it possible to add a vibrator like the ones in mobile phones to the nano note and still be able to have a SD card in the SD card slot?
<wolfspraul>
vibrator will be hard unless you do major hacking
<wolfspraul>
the speakers are loud but 'noisy environment' can still drown it out of course, depends on how noisy it is
<wpwrak>
Doc_No_ACTA_zer: yeah, pretty bad. train accidents tend to be nasty. i wonder what caused it. the train just came from maintenance, so in theory it should have been in good shape
<abushcrafterforg>
lawn mower, a road, moter way
<abushcrafterforg>
A road as in catagory of road in the uk
<abushcrafterforg>
I can solder well. but evey thing else I am newbie. Dad knows what he is doing.
<Ayla>
wpwrak: it went off the rail?
<Ayla>
didn't watch the TV
<wpwrak>
Ayla: it didn't brake and crashed into the head station at i think 26 km/h.
<Ayla>
wow, ok
<Doc_No_ACTA_zer>
wpwrak: here they said that brake defect is the suspected cause
<Doc_No_ACTA_zer>
maybe stating ethanol induced human failure is a bit too embarrassing? Anyway the train ran on a stop block with full speed
<wpwrak>
Doc_No_ACTA_zer: seems the most likely explanation. they have the black boxes, so they should be able to see what the driver did
<Doc_No_ACTA_zer>
well, they also should have double failsafe fallback brakes, and deadman switches
<wpwrak>
it would be a bit of an unusual day for drunkenness. we just had a long weekend (monday was a holiday), so the hangover accidents should have happened yesterday
<Ayla>
thanksfully it was not a high-speed train
<wpwrak>
there may not have been enough time for the deadman switch to react. that train probably stopped the last time just 1-2 km before. (not entirely sure - there are some on that line that have fewer stops)
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<wpwrak>
Ayla: even commuter trains can go fast. e.g., the famous train crash in paris in 1988 (56 dead, 57 injured) was also with a commuter train. that one accelerated to 70 km/h.
<Ayla>
this makes me wonder what would happen with a train that goes around ~350km/h at the cruise speed
<wpwrak>
at such a speed, the train would probably have overrun the buffer. there's probably quite a lot of people inside the station (i've never been inside). and there's a busy avenue right afterwards, with lots of people right outside of the station.