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[commit] David K
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[commit] David K
<kristianpaul>
zrafa_ those tools should work for all the examples i remenber
<xiangfu>
wolfspra1l, Linux virtual box will not 100% working,
<wolfspraul>
oh well
<wolfspraul>
but we have a real-life customer who may want to update his Ben
<wolfspraul>
I think he should first experiment and use the software as-is on his Ben, then any update process is more focused and rewarding
<wolfspraul>
I hope he makes it to this channel, that'd be cool
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<wpwrak>
hmm, i think i found the most perverse windows manager (i suppose) feature ever: some cryptic click+keyboard combination that activates a click-to-irreversibly-focus mode (the irreversible bit may not be entirely so, but without knowing what's really going on, i have no means to undo the madness)
<lindi->
wpwrak: it has a button that you can use to force focus to some window forever
<wpwrak>
lindi-: hmm. maybe it can also help to get out of that kind of hell, should i every strike the same buttons again by accident
<wpwrak>
yeah. may be useful. thanks !
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<wpwrak>
hmm. dragging in eeschema bzr 3378 seems rather badly broken
<wpwrak>
let's see if i can build a more recent version ...
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<wpwrak>
no improvement :-( well, it's not entirely broken. just very difficult to use now.
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<stratman2>
h
<stratman2>
how do I get to the command prompt on my Ben?
<kyak>
amazing that someone not knowning how to go to Linux console even bought Ben (no offense at all)
<viric>
I guess the marketing department did not advise "do not buy Ben if..."
<viric>
;)
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<kristianpaul>
kyak: that is called end user
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<DocScrutinizer>
well, I wouldn'tknow either
<DocScrutinizer>
as long as there's no ctrl-alt-F1 key shortcut, or an icon named "xterm"
<DocScrutinizer>
I'd guess the former can be ruled out on ben kbd
<DocScrutinizer>
nfc about the latter
<DocScrutinizer>
unless of course if console is what you actually end in after booting
<DocScrutinizer>
after all he didn't ask 'what means "ls -l"?'
<kristianpaul>
indeed
<qi-bot>
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