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<wpwrak>
nice provider :) and always remember, just because you're paranoid, that doesn't mean that they're not after you :)
<kristianpaul>
sorry OT but, whitequark i use n2n for bypassing those restrictions
<kristianpaul>
also dns port is most cases unmonitored, even when i havent pre-paid the mobile internet service *g*
<whitequark>
wpwrak: they're all like that
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<whitequark>
there are three cellular operators in Moscow, and they form a cartel
<kristianpaul>
ssl sniffing, yeah the no trust ssl has begun :)
<whitequark>
kristianpaul: pft, I don't care about restrictions. even a clever child can bypass them. I'm just extremely angry about the fact.
<whitequark>
you could never trust ssl
<whitequark>
but back in those days you didn't know about that
<whitequark>
it's better now
<kristianpaul>
oh, childs are very smart in your country then :)
<whitequark>
depends on who do you call "child"
<kristianpaul>
;)
<wpwrak>
(ssl) where does the idea come from that there's anything trustworthy in a global commercial CA-based system ?
<wpwrak>
whitequark: (child) anyone in drinking age ? :)
<whitequark>
wpwrak: (ssl) I dunno, from ITU? I won't even say they had something malicious in mind while setting that up
<whitequark>
just dumbness
<whitequark>
(child) well, then definitely a lot of them can bypass that.
<whitequark>
I'm somewhat surprised that DNSSEC has been allowed to live
<whitequark>
because it's a direct threat to CA selling business
<DocScrutinizer>
duh, gmane easier to read than pipermail?
<DocScrutinizer>
not in my book, but nm
<wpwrak>
you don't like having navigation and content on the same page, without having to switch ? well, you use small screens a lot, there this may indeed be inconvenient